Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

Craig4 said:
Well there are some really good bars at Heathrow.
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Which explains why flying into heathrow or out of it was always a hazard.. I'm sure most of the pilots I've had who flew there often visited it before flying.....
 
DGM said:
Originally Posted by Sunstealer
Originally Posted by mehmetin
1- The planes were controlled by one central team using high-tech.
2- The plane that hit the Pentagon was not a B757.
3- The twin towers were demolished by explosives.[/b]

In these points, I am definitely NOT wrong, and USA government should restudy the subject.

1. You've shown no compelling evidence that 1 team controlled the flights via Tomahawk cruise missile technology. Infact you have been shown why this is not possible. You ignored it.

2. You have been shown the FDR, RADAR, DNA, data and wreckage of identifiable B757 parts. You ignored it.

3. You have not shown how this is possible. Explosives by definition go BANG!! The amount of explosives required to do what you want them to do would have shattered windows for hundreds of meters around and deafened people. You have been shown that it's not possible. You have ignored this.

You only hear what you want to hear, so nothing is going to convince you. It's a waste of everyone's time for you and us to post here. Yes some individuals calling themselves Muslims did and continue to do some very unpleasant things. Get over it.
Can you tell me the post numbers where I precisely ignored any strong argument? If you can't, you are just a liar.

There is 1144 posts in this thread. You made about 268 of them. If you can do math (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) you will have the answer to your question. It also shows Sunstealer has not lied.
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Up to now, Sunstealer did not unswer. Your argument is not related to my question, beachnut's answer with fbi's false reports is not related to my question too. That means Sunstealer LIED.

Actually, I answered to all logical questions and explained all. In those 1164 posts, you were often accusing me, not my arguments. Any way, you had two true arguments:
- The place of installation of the automated servos is not in the nose, but it's under the cickpit.
- I should also consider the landing flights in Newark airport.

By reverse, you ignored especially these arguments :
1- The planes were controlled by one central team using high-tech.
2- The plane that hit the Pentagon was not a B757.
3- The twin towers were demolished by explosives.
 
mehmetin said:
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Actually, I answered to all logical questions and explained all.
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Only in your vail imagination. Your "explanations" are the blind result of someone who knows too little about too many things. They fail to consider many facts, and thus you overlook a million possibilities, declare as impossible some ordinary every-day occurrences that everybody with a bit of experience in modern life has personally experienced, and declare as possible things that are in fact impossible.
Furthermore, you have not provided real material evidence for most of your claims.

mehmetin said:
In those 1164 posts, you were often accusing me, not my arguments. Any way, you had two true arguments:
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We had many many more, you just hand-wave them.

mehmetin said:
- The place of installation of the automated servos is not in the nose, but it's under the cickpit.
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You have no material evidence for this. None. It is pure imagination.

mehmetin said:
- I should also consider the landing flights in Newark airport.
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Absolutely. There are many more things you have not considered but should. Such as how RADAR works, how aircraft maintenance works, how pilots fly planes, how planbes are built, how remote-control systems are developed, how FDRs are analysed, what the properties of explosives are and how they are used, ect etc etc.

mehmetin said:
By reverse, you ignored especially these arguments :
1- The planes were controlled by one central team using high-tech.
2- The plane that hit the Pentagon was not a B757.
3- The twin towers were demolished by explosives.
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LIAR.
Especially these arguments have been addressed by pretty much everyone here. Everybody has pointed out that you
1- Provided no material evidence for central control by one team and deny all the evidence that points to all planes controlled by a team of hijackers (4 teams total, acting independently after boarding)
2- Provided no material evidence for any other proposition, but deny the massive amounts of evidence for a 757
#3- Provided no material evidence for the use of any eplosives at the twin towers, much less their demolition, and deny the many indepent scientific studies that show how the massive fires can indeed easily lead to collapse
 
Oystein said:
Impressive.
jack, do you have a link for this?


@ mehmetin: I count 34 Muslim suicide murderers in that list. Somehow it was possible to find 34 Muslims in only 2 months who were willing to murder others (often other Muslims).

Can you believe this? Can you explain this, mehmetin?
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This subject is out of topic. Any way, I'll expalin :
- I can not verify all these reports.
- In those claimed suicide attacks at least 80% are not "suicide" attacks.
- For the remaining ones, almost all are happening in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq. Those countries are invaded by foreign armies led by USA and the responsibility is on behalf of USA.
 
mehmetin said:
This subject is out of topic. Any way, I'll expalin :
- I can not verify all these reports.
- In those claimed suicide attacks at least 80% are not "suicide" attacks.
- For the remaining ones, almost all are happening in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq. Those countries are invaded by foreign armies led by USA and the responsibility is on behalf of USA.
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FALSE, it is not out of topic. It directly addresses your FALSE claim that it is "impossible" to find 19 muslim suicide terrorists.
Your explanations, again, fail:

- We cannot veryfy any of your fantasies. However do you agree or deny that suicide bombings are a common occurrence in Muslim lands? Do you agree or deny that in this world today most suicide bombers are Muslims?
- I counted 34 Muslim suicide murderers. This number is not diminished by the fact that four times as many (actually: more) additional murder attacks were perpetrated by muslims who did not commit suicide in the event. But please address the apparent ease at which muslim suicide murderers are found today in the world every second day! If Al Qaida needed 19 muslims willing to commit suicide, they could find them in only 5 weeks!
- Almost all their victims are not US soldiers, but fellow muslims. Children, women and other innocent muslims are often among the victims. Do you wish to excuse muslims for murdering muslil children? Secondly, are you aware that Osama Bin Laden and other radical muslims were already before 2001 enraged about the presence of US troops in many muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, Bahrein, etc.? Are you aware that Al Qaida already attacked US military and civilian targets before 2001 because of that? Are you aware that many muslims foster hatred towards the USA because of her ongoing support for Israel? Are you seriously claiming no muslim would be willing to fight the USA unless his own country was already invaded? Do you believe muslims are this complacent?


You habe previously not answered my questions about if you believe that muslims are less courageous and intelligent than non-muslims, because you keep claiming that muslims could not possibly (on account of ability, not ethics) do this or that. Please address this question. It is very central to your whole theory. Basically, your theory is "muslims are incapable and too dumb to crash planes, but Jews are capable and intelligent enough". I believe this thinking is racist and factually falsel. I personally look at muslims and their potentials much more kindly.
 
You don't actually have to find 19 people willing to commit suicide either - only the pilots need know the ultimate aim of the hijack.
 
mehmetin said:
This subject is out of topic. Any way, I'll expalin :
- I can not verify all these reports.
- In those claimed suicide attacks at least 80% are not "suicide" attacks.
- For the remaining ones, almost all are happening in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq. Those countries are invaded by foreign armies led by USA and the responsibility is on behalf of USA.
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Contradict yourself often?
 
Sideroxylon said:
You don't actually have to find 19 people willing to commit suicide either - only the pilots need know the ultimate aim of the hijack.
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Exactly

Four pilots needed to be found.

mehmetin, What do you think, how many Muslims are there? Do you think you could rustle up 4 "brave" pilots willing to give their lives for Allah?
 
DGM said:
Exactly

Four pilots needed to be found.

mehmetin, What do you think, how many Muslims are there? Do you think you could rustle up 4 "brave" pilots willing to give their lives for Allah?
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Of course,there is never a shortage of fanatics who want their virgins in paradise. What happens to the lady suicide bombers in paradise?
 
dafydd said:
Of course,there is never a shortage of fanatics who want their virgins in paradise. What happens to the lady suicide bombers in paradise?
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They are promised beauty surpassing that of the houris. Now Mehmet may well correctly state such ideas are not part of Islamic teaching derived from Qur'an or hadith, but this is what some are told.
 
Sideroxylon said:
They are promised beauty surpassing that of the houris. Now Mehmet may well correctly state such ideas are not part of Islamic teaching derived from Qur'an or hadith, but this is what some are told.
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If enough Muslims believe it,then it becomes part of the teaching. that's how religion works.
 
I wonder how many Muslims deny the truth of Jihad and suicide bombings by people who have hijacked their religion. You'd think it would be a hard thing to miss.
 
twinstead said:
I wonder how many Muslims deny the truth of Jihad and suicide bombings by people who have hijacked their religion. You'd think it would be a hard thing to miss.
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It's part of the religion. Did the Crusaders hijack Christianity? Islam is a younger religion and is still in the barbaric stage.
 
I think there's a connection between Meh & this thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6975023#post6975023


USAFMXOfficer

Anyone run into this Truther?

I still spend quite some time fighting the good fight against Truthers, especially on IMDB. Brian Souter recently posted an IMDB link to an article by an "A. K. Dewdney" concerning the cell calls from U93. Anyone ever run into Dewdney before? His article is here http://www.physics911.net/cellphoneflight93
The article is full of lies, as usual, and shows an extremely disappointing level of research for someone with 2 PhD's as Dewdney.

Dewdney's website is here http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~akd/. If you drill into the "Current Research and Other Projects" section his Truther credentials become evident.
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