Is Obama planning to attack Saudi Arabia?

Anders Lindman said:
Shortage of resources such as oil and metals could lead to an economic conflict between the U.S. and Asia, and also between the EU and Asia. China has thousands of years of tricky politics experience. Japan also has an old history. The U.S. is young in comparison. Of course, I'm not entirely sure that there is a strong bond between China and Japan among the leaders of those countries, but I strongly suspect there is.
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... I think China still remembers the Rape of Nanking...
 
KingMerv00 said:
Why do you suspect that?
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Follow the media. Often when mainstream media pushes something very hard it's in cooperation with political interests. Some decades ago there was some kind of huge uproar in a country, millions of people dead or something like that, and the western media was completely silent about the whole thing! It was not until many years after that people in the west learned about it. This event in Libya is opposite of that, with mainstream media pushing very hard to inform the public about a military invasion of that country.
 
timhau said:
That's, like, news, man.

To those who don't follow the petroleum industry at all, that is.
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Much of oil statistics is kept secret and much of it is questionable. For example, some decades ago Saudi Arabia suddenly doubled its 'proven' reserves of oil, just like that. It was for manipulative reasons, an increase only on paper. Not only that, the figures for the reserves remained unchanged year after year. Infinite oil supply! Hardly.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Much of oil statistics is kept secret and much of it is questionable. For example, some decades ago Saudi Arabia suddenly doubled its 'proven' reserves of oil, just like that. It was for manipulative reasons, an increase only on paper. Not only that, the figures for the reserves remained unchanged year after year. Infinite oil supply! Hardly.
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In other words, you're not familiar with the concept of 'oil reserves'. (Hint: it's separate from 'oil in place'.)
 
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timhau said:
In other words, you're not familiar with the concept of 'oil reserves'. (Hint: it's separate from 'oil in place'.)
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It's not my own amateur guesses. Many experts have talked about how Saudi Arabia has presented fake statistics.
 
Staged event? Small protest, started peacefully, then turned violent. Started by provocateurs from the CIA/MI6? The protest:

"Saudi Police Open Fire to Break Up a Protest

Saudi police officers opened fire at a protest march in a restive, oil-rich province on Thursday, wounding at least three people, according to witnesses and a Saudi government official."

From: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/11/world/middleeast/11saudi.html?_r=2&ref=todayspaper

The first paragraph of the story gives the impression that the police has shot and wounded demonstrators. But the police fired over people's heads, not at the demonstrators. From the same article:

"The spokesman said that the police fired over the protesters’ heads, but that three people were injured in the melee, including a police officer."
 
Anders Lindman said:
Follow the media. Often when mainstream media pushes something very hard it's in cooperation with political interests. Some decades ago there was some kind of huge uproar in a country, millions of people dead or something like that, and the western media was completely silent about the whole thing! It was not until many years after that people in the west learned about it. This event in Libya is opposite of that, with mainstream media pushing very hard to inform the public about a military invasion of that country.
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None of that is evidence.
 
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KingMerv00 said:
So you have no evidence.
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No, it's a speculation. But if it turns out that Saudi Arabia gets invaded by NATO or UN troops or something like that, then the idea of political manipulation to invade Saudi Arabia could be true!
 
Anders Lindman said:
It's not my own amateur guesses. Many experts have talked about how Saudi Arabia has presented fake statistics.
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Yes, but none of that is news. Saudi statistics have been deemed questionable a long, long time ago. That doesn't change the fact that the concept of oil reserves seems foreign to you -- a country's oil reserves can grow overnight, even if no new oil deposits are found. None of this is mystical if you know the concept you use.
 
timhau said:
Yes, but none of that is news. Saudi statistics have been deemed questionable a long, long time ago. That doesn't change the fact that the concept of oil reserves seems foreign to you -- a country's oil reserves can grow overnight, even if no new oil deposits are found. None of this is mystical if you know the concept you use.
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Yes, I saw on Wikipedia that proven reserves can increase because of political decisions etc, such as the opening up of oil fields for production that previously were protected for ecological reasons. But in the case of Saudi Arabia, they probably don't have mushy Greenpeace activists and things like that to take into consideration. :D
 
Anders Lindman said:
Sure, but there is a distinction between the people and the leaders of the people. The leaders of both China and Japan are in bed with each other.
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No.

If Japan is in bed with anyone, it's the US. We did drag the country out of the feudal era then eventually rebuild it into a modern democracy. While not officially allies, the US probably has a closer relationship diplomatically with Japan than it does to any other country except Canada and maybe the UK. From the Japanese perspective, we are rivals, but extremely friendly ones.

The idea that Japan would collude with China against the US is patently ridiculous.
 
Rogue1stclass said:
No.

If Japan is in bed with anyone, it's the US. We did drag the country out of the feudal era then eventually rebuild it into a modern democracy. While not officially allies, the US probably has a closer relationship diplomatically with Japan than it does to any other country except Canada and maybe the UK. From the Japanese perspective, we are rivals, but extremely friendly ones.

The idea that Japan would collude with China against the US is patently ridiculous.
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Ha ha. The western politicians are being fooled by the more cunning Asian powers. The Japanese leaders only pretend to be friendly with the U.S.
 
50,000 US troops in Japan would go some way to making them play nice.
 
I don't work for Japanese intelligence, but I can tell you that the Japanese government cooperated with the U.S. government at the end of World War II to stage two atom bomb explosions. That enabled the Japanese government to gracefully surrender and save face towards the Japanese people. Moreover, U.S. troops helped Japan move Soviet troops out of Japan who otherwise would have risked ending up like Germany with half of the country held in a horrible Communist grip.

The U.S. government benefited in this cooperation by having the world believe it possessed a new a terrible weapon: the atom bomb. It was all fake of course, but the ILLUSION of having such weapon is essentially as effective as having real nuclear weapons.

A few years later the Soviet Union got hold of atom bomb technology. Another huge scam. This created the Cold War hoax.

The BIG mistake the U.S. government did was to start with the atom bomb hoax. Why? Because now the U.S. government is caught in is own game of atom bomb fraud and other governments can use that weakness to keep U.S. political power in line. "We have you by the balls, Obama, don't forget that.", the Japanese Prime Minister may say.
 
So I guess France, Chine, UK, India and Pakistan to name others are all in on the fraud aswell.

Where the Nuclear Depth Bombs in our 'Special Weapons' Magazine hoaxes as well?
 
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