Assistance required for telepathy proof

[Akhenaten]

As I stated yesterday, my poly is now assembled and will be fully tested and then used to construct more repeatable, reliable tests. How do you now substantiate this statement?

Another superhero that seems much more interested in talking about their power for the longest possible amount of time, than actually proving it.

You seem to be hell-bent on substantiating it yourself, actually.

 

[golfy]

Yet again

The problem is, to put it bluntly, your protocols suck ( note i say your protocols, i have no knowledge of you as a person.). They suck hard , and they suck all day. They are nothing close to what would be acceptable.

Unsubstantiated criticism - very lame. You are simply becoming desperate to undermine my confidence with ridiculously weak arguments. I have asked you to back up your statements with actual evidence of what you say. You never do, never will and simply cannot. If you can’t back yourself up with evidence then your claim is as weak as it is possible to be.

All I will do is prove you wrong with repeatability as previously stated.

You are simply wasting my time as well as your own.

golfy

 

[Jeff Corey]

I am more interested in testing than in talking. Results speak louder than words but you lot simply make unsubstantiated criticisms against ever increasing evidence...

I have reread this thread and see no evidence presented at all, let alone "ever increasing evidence".

 

[sadhatter]

Yet again




Unsubstantiated criticism - very lame. You are simply becoming desperate to undermine my confidence with ridiculously weak arguments. I have asked you to back up your statements with actual evidence of what you say. You never do, never will and simply cannot. If you can’t back yourself up with evidence then your claim is as weak as it is possible to be.

All I will do is prove you wrong with repeatability as previously stated.

You are simply wasting my time as well as your own.

golfy

The problem is your protocols are so terribly flawed, and that has been pointed out so many times, that for me to do it again would be a waste of my time.

And btw, way to not respond to my explanation of why your methods , and reasoning ( I want to use MY protocol) are completely wrong.

 

[sadhatter]

Yet again




Unsubstantiated criticism - very lame. You are simply becoming desperate to undermine my confidence with ridiculously weak arguments. I have asked you to back up your statements with actual evidence of what you say. You never do, never will and simply cannot. If you can’t back yourself up with evidence then your claim is as weak as it is possible to be.

All I will do is prove you wrong with repeatability as previously stated.

You are simply wasting my time as well as your own.

golfy

and as an addendum, if your methodology is flawed, no amount of repeating it is going to convince anyone of a skeptical mind.

Again i point to the fact that if i was allowed to set the rules, i could guarentee a 100% success rate in one on one combat with any professional fighter. But that doesn't mean that i can do it legitimately, in the exact same fashion that you may be able to repeat your results, but because you set the ( horribly flawed) rules, it means nothing.

 

[golfy]

Again i point to the fact that if i was allowed to set the rules, i could guarantee a 100% success rate in one on one combat with any professional fighter. But that doesn't mean that i can do it legitimately, in the exact same fashion that you may be able to repeat your results, but because you set the ( horribly flawed) rules, it means nothing.

I am getting bored with people who don't get the rules. The JREF and I must both agree on the protocol together for it to be viable. In your case the pro fighter would not agree to being hog tied any more than you would if that was suggested by yourself and it would give you an unfair advantage. Any unfair advantages are not allowed – that is what “no cheating” means. Or did you not know that?

The rules are set to be the same for both sides and both sides would agree to it before the fight commences. This is the same with the JREF - the protocol is inspected by the JREF before they accept it, they do not simply go along with anything that the claimant puts forward. Anyone could do that and win.

If you didn't realise that then you have just made yourself out to be an uninformed argumentative (insert derogatory word of choice) on a forum making UNSUBSTANTIATED STATEMENTS yet again. You obvioulsy do not understand the procedure.

golfy

 

[sadhatter]

I am getting bored with people who don't get the rules. The JREF and I must both agree on the protocol together for it to be viable. In your case the pro fighter would not agree to being hog tied any more than you would if that was suggested by yourself and it would give you an unfair advantage. Any unfair advantages are not allowed – that is what “no cheating” means. Or did you not know that?

The rules are set to be the same for both sides and both sides would agree to it before the fight commences. This is the same with the JREF - the protocol is inspected by the JREF before they accept it, they do not simply go along with anything that the claimant puts forward. Anyone could do that and win.

If you didn't realise that then you have just made yourself out to be an uninformed argumentative (insert derogatory word of choice) on a forum making UNSUBSTANTIATED STATEMENTS yet again. You obvioulsy do not understand the procedure.

golfy

But the problem is , you arn't taking out the ability to cheat. You cannot just state my point then say " what arn't you getting?" , not only is it intellectually dishonest, but downright nonsensical.

And as you can see, the jref will not accept your rules, which are equivalent to the hog tying of the professional fighter, your acting as if they have, which , obviously , they have yet to.

Kudos on another nonsensical dodge, you seem quite good at doing everything but proving your power.

 

[Marcus]

double post

 

[Marcus]

You seem to want me to use your protocols rather than use one that has actually worked already. It needs to be repeated again and again to satisfy my statement that I am telepathic, that does not mean that it need changing.

That depends on what your goals are. If you merely want to satisfy yourself, than no, it doesn't need changing.If you wish any rational observers to be convinced, it does.

I have asked you to show me how I have cheated with my Doctor and yet non of you “intellectuals” has come up with much more than a bit of lame name calling.

Why do you want someone to show you how you cheated? Wouldn't you rather they showed you how the test was flawed and didn't prove anything?

Is this the best you guys can do? You’ll lose against actual repeatability hands down.

golfy

It's not about us, it's about you proving your telepathic powers. So you are saying you will prove your powers if they are proven. By a repeatability which has not taken place, with an experiment that no one agrees proves anything, with a protocol that won't be appearing in the MDC. Not too convincing.

 

[golfy]

Why do you want someone to show you how you cheated? Wouldn't you rather they showed you how the test was flawed and didn't prove anything?

Because if you cannot explain how I got those results dishonestly then they are valid results (proof of telepathy) if repeated a number of times and the correct word is determined each and every time from observing the GSR reading. i.e. the protocol is cheat proof and the results cannot be explained any other way other than telepathy exists. This is how scientists would perceive it.

golfy

 

[Hitch]

Because if you cannot explain how I got those results dishonestly then they are valid results (proof of telepathy) if repeated a number of times and the correct word is determined each and every time from observing the GSR reading.

golfy

I flipped a coin it came up heads. I can do it every time, but there's no point since no one will believe me anyway.

 

[golfy]

I flipped a coin it came up heads. I can do it every time, but there's no point since no one will believe me anyway.

Substantiate with video, live web link or under scientific observation. If yiu cannot do that then it is total BS.

golfy

 

[RoboTimbo]

Because if you cannot explain how I got those results dishonestly then they are valid results (proof of telepathy) if repeated a number of times and the correct word is determined each and every time from observing the GSR reading. i.e. the protocol is cheat proof and the results cannot be explained any other way other than telepathy exists. This is how scientists would perceive it.

golfy

Has the JREF responded to your application yet?

 

[Hitch]

Substantiate with video or under scientific observation. If yiu cannot do that then it is total BS.

golfy

I would, but everyone wants to deny my ability, so I can't get anyone to cooperate.

 

[golfy]

I would, but everyone wants to deny my ability, so I can't get anyone to cooperate.

The JREF would not entertain even watching a video of your claim?

golfy

 

[Hitch]

The JREF would not entertain even watching a video of your claim?

golfy

People fake videos all the time.

 

[golfy]

Has the JREF responded to your application yet?

As stated before, I will perfect my tests before I put in an application. This will automatically prove I am telepathic anyway as I will then have repeated the cat ship test with a volunteer numerous times. Not sure what will happen then at that point but a JREF app would then be on the cards.

I have sent the recording to the Police in England as I would like to take my case further against the NHS (Health Service) in the UK. This may provide me with proof of telepathy through Police investigation before I get to a JREF claim.

golfy

 

[RoboTimbo]

As stated before, I will perfect my tests before I put in an application. This will automatically prove i am telepathic anyway as I will then have repeated the cat ship test with a volunteer numerous times. Not sure what will happen then.

I have sent the recording to the Police in England as I would like to take my case further against the NHS (Health Service) in the UK. This may provide me with proof of telepathy through Police investigation before I get to a JREF claim.

golfy

Well, no. Submitting an application will not automatically prove that you are telepathic.

 

[wardenclyffe]

(snip) The JREF and I must both agree on the protocol together for it to be viable. In your case the pro fighter would not agree to being hog tied any more than you would if that was suggested by yourself and it would give you an unfair advantage. Any unfair advantages are not allowed – that is what “no cheating” means. Or did you not know that? (snip)

golfy

And you trust that JREF will not cheat, when you can't even trust your sister nor any single one of your friends? Really? So, you trust JREF. Is there anyone else on the planet that you trust?

Ward

ETA: Just saw that you do not trust the NHS, but apparently you trust the police. Would you be willing to conduct a test without a polygraph if the other participants were police officers? If not, why not?

 

[golfy]

Well, no. Submitting an application will not automatically prove that you are telepathic.

As stated before, I will perfect my tests before I put in an application. This will automatically prove i am telepathic anyway as I will then have repeated the cat ship test with a volunteer numerous times.

How can you not understand the above statement?

The cat ship (C/S) test repeated numerous times will automatically prove I am telepathic, i.e. doing numerous C/S tests with numerous people and getting repeatable results is then proof of telepathy. Putting in an app is not the same thing. I would only do that once I know my tests work repeatedly and are accurate. Repeated accuracy is proof of telepathy before an app is made.

golfy