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Huckabee Attacks Natalie Portman...

The quote in Huck's own voice is about 50 seconds in on this video. He made a completely false claim that single mothers were mostly uneducated, unemployed and if not for welfare their kids would starve.

I posted the evidence Huck is disgustingly full of it in this post.

Where is the radio program? What I meant was the source -- Huckabee's complete statement.

I am skeptical of CNN. I am suspicious. Since I have been part of military events that were grossly misreported by the news media, I am suspicious and dubious and untrusting. Their primary motive of the news is not to report facts. It is to "report" a good and captivating story and often this is accomplished by taking things out of context.

This CNN linked video takes two brief comments of what Huckabee said on a radio program and then they embellished it.

The context of what Huckabee was saying is thrown away. The two sound bytes are all that is important because they can be used to make a damaging news broadcast that makes people watch. So that people watch CNN. That is how the news media rolls in the USA.

So he said one sentence that had some statistics that you can find a linked source that disagrees. But what was the core point the Huckabee was trying to make? To CNN this does not matter because they know their audience. The audience is the American public that has the attention span of a gold fish and the education level of a fourth grader.

"Ooh, Mike Huckabee made one incorrect statistical supposition in the context of a radio program". They must think they struck gold. They don't give a damn what point he was trying to make. They just know they can get some people to come on their show and pounce and denounce these two comments for what the comments themselves say. Apparently you are on board with this way of seeing the world.

Here I was thinking you were going to find the radio show in its entirety. Maybe if I go to the source it looks worse. But I doubt it. Otherwise they would have used the whole radio program and leave it in its context.

Rush Limbaugh has often dedicated a complete program out of how the main stream news has taken one sentence he has said and used that to make it seem that he meant something he did not even really say.

Since this CNN report is relying on comentary that assumes Huckabee is personally attacking natalie Portman, I find the whole thing to be hog wash and it is manipulating the viewers emotions and opinions and assumption of what Huckabee was trying to do. In a court of law, a good judge would see this trick and throw out the testimony.

If Huckabee is wrong that most single moms are on welfare, this is minutia. What I think he means is single teen moms. I suspect that this was the context in which he made this statement. If this is true, CNN pulled an underhanded trick. And if most single teen moms are not on welfare and public assistance. then probably many are. It sure seems that way according to the reports of the problem I have seen on the news.
 
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i wonder what you would think if Hillary Clinton said that pregnant single celebrates are poor role models for young women.
 
If Huckabee is wrong that most single moms are on welfare, this is minutia. What I think he means is single teen moms. I suspect that this was the context in which he made this statement.

Good that we've got you to interpret that for us then. Otherwise who knows what crazy reading we might take of it?

Incidentally, if you wanted to make a point about single teen mothers on welfare, why on Earth would you pick out Natalie Portman who is none of the above (barring, almost, motherhood)?
 
i wonder what you would think if Hillary Clinton said that pregnant single celebrates are poor role models for young women.

Seems rather irrelevant, quite frankly. Besides which, it's largely the manner and choice that's at issue.

Natalie Portman is practically superhuman in what she has managed to do with her life. Emulating her (as opposed to, say Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton) wouldn't be the worst thing in the world...
 
Fact number two: Getting pregnant without a father, is not the best way to go for the baby according to the statistics.


Unless there's been some major scientific advance I've missed, I'd say getting pregnant without a father being involved in the process in some way at some point is impossible. ;)

Unless it was an immaculate conception... (hmmm, no, there's still a father involved there too, albeit a supernatural one...)
 
According to me that is not what I said she believes.

Then what exactly is her message? You claim she's not promoting abstinence only (something demonstrably ineffective). All I can infer from what you said is that you think there is a need to educate people that babies come from sex.

Otherwise, of what value is repeatedly stating that abstinence is the only 100% effective means of birth control? (As long as you ignore radical hysterectomies and modern vasectomies. And if you're going to quibble over the extremely rare incidence of the vas regrowing and reconnecting, I would point out that there are a few pregnancies that happen other than as the result of sexual intercourse, so the abstinence "100%" isn't strictly true either.)
 
Unless it was an immaculate conception... (hmmm, no, there's still a father involved there too, albeit a supernatural one...)
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Immaculate Conception was Mary (i.e. born without original sin). Jesus was the Virgin Birth.
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(Sorry, damn parochial school indoctrination keeps making be do that.)
 
i wonder what you would think if Hillary Clinton said that pregnant single celebrates are poor role models for young women.

Depends on the celebrity. Natalie Portman? Hillary would be an idiot, like Huckabee. Britney Spears or Bristol Palin? Not so much.

Portman's not single, she's unmarried but she's not single.
 
In regards to Huckabee's "Most single mothers..." comment, Politifact has weighed in, and awarded the former Arkansas governor a rating of barely true.

Looks to me like they had to ignore the definition of "most" to give Hick that rating. My guess is the people at Politifact had a hard time themselves not buying the stereotype of the single mother.

Most single mothers are employed.
Most single mothers have a high school education or greater.
Most single mothers are not on welfare.

Huck gets a false on those three.

But on the matter of being poor, and this goes to the status of low paid jobs available to women, it is revealing that with 68% employed, (apparently a few more are unemployed since the data I cited), 41 percent get food stamps. That means there are a number of working poor. These are not lazy welfare queens, these are people with jobs that don't pay enough to put food on the table.

But the Christians like Huck (he was a pastor) care more that a woman had sex than they care about employers paying so little their workers need food stamps to get by.

In my book, he's a hypocritical scum bag in soft spoken sheep's clothing.
 
i wonder what you would think if Hillary Clinton said that pregnant single celebrates are poor role models for young women.
We would suggest that she be evaluated for Alzheimer's, since it would show a sudden change in personality.

In case you didn't notice, she's a Democrat and a feminist, which means that the government's place is in the boardroom, not the bedroom.
 
Yeah, I find the idea of a woman who had a child out of wedlock promoting abstinence quite odd.

She's either saying "My baby was a mistake" or "I don't believe the things I'm telling you".
She's also saying "leave me out of any harsh comments you have, because I am not a politician. I'm just a person getting paid lots of money for espousing views I don't hold or practice, and as everyone knows, that is nothing like a politician."
 

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