Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[CORed]

And these systems are where exactly and activated how ?
A link to an illustration of the aircrafts instrument panel and the particular control marked should suffice...

They were installed right next to the tanks to release the chemtrails. LDO.

 

[mehmetin]

Like any religious group, Muslims disagree on things, including what Jihad means. That's why Sunni Muslims kill Shia Muslims.

Everything is relative. Muslim countries are a complete mixing between Sunni and Shia! I mean including in very small villages you have both of them. And we have no wars all around during whole history. They succeeded to keep that mixing during thousands years. Only that consideration proves that they are not so killing each other.

During this last century, Muslim world changed too much. Nationalist feelings were introduced into them, too much dictatorial regimes were installed, and the waging war of Israel and the invasions, colonialisms did not made things better. As conclusion, on these times, in the triggered and invaded countries, there are some wars and terror attacks between Sunnis and Shias, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And why some extremist Muslims want all non-Muslims dead.

There is no such thing. This is a media made brain wash based on wrong interpretation of Muslims principles on basis of wrong Christian principles. The mains lie is the meaning of the word “Jihad”. It’s translated as being “the Holy War” of Christian church principle; that means killing non Christians. When you translate that to Muslims as “Holy War”, Muslims understand that as “Making good”, “respecting and protecting weak people”, “install peace”, … Muslims could not imagine that “Holy War” means killing people who are not of my religion.

The first I pushed the discussion forward to ask the real meaning of “Holy War”, I was shocked! How is that possible to innocent people on basis of their religion?

Sorry, whole historic evidence proves that such wrong principle of killing innocent people on basis of their religion is not Islamic and did not happened in Muslim world. Sure, as everywhere, there was also some wars and some crimes were made on basis or religion. But the complete mixing of Muslim world proves that such “holy war” principle does not existed in Islam.

And what about those wacky Sufis, anyway?

The main guideline of Islam is controlling our own actions to make them as best as possible, without overcharging ourselves, with patience, and truth seeking. Some of Muslims became extremely pacific that they nearly give up all stress, all struggle, they accept everything as it is. These are Sufis.

mehmetin, why is that? I submit that it's because Muslims are just like Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. Most are basically good people, but some are extremists and a few are actually evil. The evil ones flew those planes and killed 3000 innocent people.

There are some evil people amongst Muslims. But those who flew the planes into the towers were not Muslims. Free and independent justice must discover what happened. In the mean time, my investigation led me to the fact that Mossad and Bush administration made 9/11.

It's amazing that once upon a time the Muslim World was the most enlightened, most technically advanced, and most tolerant civilization on Earth. How times have changed.

The subject is easy. Since about year 1300, Muslim world became a “peace zone” where people can live in peace even if they are not rich, not protected. That installed a peace area and made all people very calm, quite in their mind. Such situation created some kind of technologic stagnation. It also kept the peaceful life amongst the citizens.

But in Europe, since 1300, there were always wars. That created huge technologic progress ending with industrial revolution and two catastrophic wars that changed whole world. At the end, by the intrusion of European influence during the last century, Muslim world has been destabilized and became a war zone too. And the criminal behavior of Israel with total support of USA and Europe, things do not become better.

 

[I Ratant]

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Sorry, whole historic evidence proves that such wrong principle of killing innocent people on basis of their religion is not Islamic and did not happened in Muslim world. Sure, as everywhere, there was also some wars and some crimes were made on basis or religion. But the complete mixing of Muslim world proves that such “holy war” principle does not existed in Islam.

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Explain the daily suicide bombings in Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.
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...These are Sufis.

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A frequently persecuted underclass in Islamic countries. Persecuted by Islamics.
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There are some evil people amongst Muslims. But those who flew the planes into the towers were not Muslims. Free and independent justice must discover what happened. In the mean time, my investigation led me to the fact that Mossad and Bush administration made 9/11.
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The number of suicidal Isrealis is right about zero.
We have seen 19 suicidal Muslims on 9/11, and today's new will highlight more of them in Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, although the numbers will be lower than those killed today in Libya.

 

[mehmetin]

Originally Posted by mehmetin
According to another graphic that you can find here http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...ainstoryp7.asp , you can see that the plane was high up to 10:04 and crashed very quickly.

Whe nI told you that the plane was at 35000 ft altitude from 9:00 to 9:42, I was very positive for your scenario.

As the family told also, at least two phone calls were made from 35000ft altitude. That means the FBI lied about these calls. Why did they lie? Because the cellular phones could not work at such altitude.

The phone calls are not evidence for the official story, they prove that the official story is white lie.

A very simple explanation would be that the first two calls were from the airphone, the last was from the cell phone and the family members who saw the caller ID on the last call mistakenly remembered seeing it on the first two calls. No lying by FBI or family members, no highly improbable fake calls or voice morphing necessary. Just the kind of faulty memory that happens to human beings all the time.

We have no clue to argue that. About 9/11, we should expect that FBI lied too many times. At least, by myself, I won't trust them without strong material evidence. You can trust them, but I do not, and I will not.

For the family, could his wife made mistake, forget the first calls? We will not get final strong evidence for that. But we can look if that’s probable or not.

Let’s imagine your husband (or wife) calls you from an unknown number. What will you think, what will you tell? I think you will tell “What’s that number you call from?” And such situation will not be forgotten easily. Isn’t it?

Voice changing software (not voice morphing) is usual since decades and it’s used in many media programs. Using such software, it’s possible to produce live phone calls.

 

[mehmetin]

I'm by no means an expert on aircraft design, but am I correct in assuming that there are no cables between the pilot's controls and the hydraulic system? There certainly aren't on forklifts, backhoes, etc. that I am somewhat familiar with. On those, the operator controls work directly on the hydraulic valves. I would assume that controls on large planes are similar. It appears to me that this is yet another example Mehmet's monumental ignorance of how a modern airliner is put together.

First time people told me the presence of such cables, I was also surprised. But after verification, it appeared that this was true and is still true in B757 and B767.

Also, they will not transport high pressure hydraulic tubes all around the plane! Using strong cables, that could be a strong and reliable way to transport the movements up to the wings.

 

[grandmastershek]

voice changing software (not voice morphing) is usual since decades and it’s used in many media programs. Using such software, it’s possible to produce live phone calls.

Pure semantics. Wishing things into reality isn't very effective.

 

[mehmetin]

Originally Posted by mehmetin
Sorry, but you understood nothing.

The tomahawk systems were installed before 9/11/2001 and they were in sleeping mode before they were activated. During that time, the planes can takeoff and land as a normal plane. When they are activated by using satellite communication, they wake up, inject gas into the planes and start to simulate the movements of the human pilots on the control systems making an identical copy of human pilots by automatic control system.

Ok, I imagine that it's difficult to understand, but it's perfectly reliable and easy made for an automation designer. If any other question feel free to ask.



Not possible. I am an ex aircraft technician and you are babbling.

You can tell us something like "I never saw such thing", "I never imagined such thing", "I am unable to produce such thing", ...

But you can not tell "That's impossible; you must believe me, I am an ex aircraft technician!".

Any way, we are waiting reasons why such control is impossible?

 

[mehmetin]

What if the dying pilot pushes forward (or any other direction) on the controls and stays that way? Wouldn't that cause major problems?

Yes, you are right. That's why they can not use autopilot which is weak and could not remove a dead pilot body. And that's why they should have used very strong non reversible worm reducer. The movements are very slow, with very small power and such reduction they can get strong torque and push the body of a dead pilot.

 

[grandmastershek]

Any way, we are waiting reasons why such control is impossible?

Sigh....

Burden of Proof

 

[Sideroxylon]

My work is consistent with all known strong evidence. Sure, some remaining evidence is classified, hidden, deleted, … so it’s unavailable. Such evidence should be searched by a justice investigation. Only after such investigation you can ask me to be more precise.

From a brief scan of your site and the downloaded presentation, your work seems to be a whole lot of assertions with no support. I don't see anything to justify describing yourself as a researcher - looks like you are just putting on airs.

Too many times I explained to Muslims who discussed that subject that they must consider such attack against their own country, and only in that manner they can understand why Americans are so angry to them.

Yes ... and? You haven't addressed my point at all.

My work is an independent investigation to explain how the events were made. That’s for all citizens of all countries. The perpetrators of such criminal attacks should be identified and charged. Without that they’ll continue their crimes in whole world. And if justice was made for 9/11 there will be no Madrid 3/11 no London 7/7 bombings. Because the perpetrators had to be charged and unable to commit those strikes too.

The gassing of the pilots and passengers is my own research and I made everything to make technically possible and consistent with all known strong evidence. If anyone spoken that subject here, it could not be same as mine. So I ask you to consider only my words and try to debunk them. I am not related to the claims of other people.

I see lots of bold claims about lofty goals and intentions but I haven't seen you back them up.

Again, I want to make the point that you are making an extremely improbable claim here that American leaders were behind one of the nation's greatest tragedies and have done so in a way that only a few people like yourself have managed to unearth a plot that would have required a great many people being involved keeping quiet. Also, isn't it odd that the conspiracy theorists have their own wildly differing views of "the truth".

 

[mehmetin]

Operation Northwoods was a proposal (an extremely dumb and evil one, to be sure) made in a brainstorming session and rejected; it never happened. Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK, acting alone.

Try again.

Donald Rumsfeld should have been present in that brainstorming session and if Kennedy did not refused to apply this operation Rumsfeld may have made that scenario.

When Rumsfeld became defense secretary in January 2001, he declassified the document to remember what was told at that time, used it as principle, modified it and made it possible using today’s technology. So he applied the scenario to justify the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. See slide 65 of my power point at www.peace911.org .

 

[grandmastershek]

This thread really needs to be renamed Muslim guy makes **** up to explain how he wishes 9/11 was made

 

[mehmetin]

Originally Posted by mehmetin
Sorry, but you understood nothing.

The tomahawk systems were installed before 9/11/2001 and they were in sleeping mode before they were activated. During that time, the planes can takeoff and land as a normal plane. When they are activated by using satellite communication, they wake up, inject gas into the planes and start to simulate the movements of the human pilots on the control systems making an identical copy of human pilots by automatic control system.

Ok, I imagine that it's difficult to understand, but it's perfectly reliable and easy made for an automation designer. If any other question feel free to ask.



You can produce evidence of this? Show it please.

If you can explain the succession of the hijack by another mean than using such automatic control system, I am ready to review my work.

Don't forget, you must get strong evidence that is consistent with all available evidence and it must not be based low probability actions, it must be 100% reliable and easy to make.

 

[grandmastershek]

Don't forget, you must get strong evidence that is consistent with all available evidence and it must not be based low probability actions, it must be 100% reliable and easy to make.

The hijackers had special technology only available to them. The evidence for this is classified, but its true. Trust me.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

The Samantha and Darrin one really pissed me off. How dumb did they think we are?"

I would initially guess Endora was behind the subterfuge, but there was no doubt Larry Tate (a Jew) planned it all along, releasing the secret gas in Darrin 1's dressing room, allowing Darrin 2 to take the unconcious Darrin's place. The body of Darrin 1 was never recovered from the scene, indicating he is still alive, though afraid to come forward. Furthermore, Larry's wife Gladys worked under cover of the related commotion to install a Tomahawk guidance system in Samantha's broom, knowing Samantha's sister Serena, a witch herself, would be blamed when it crashed. All witches and warlocks are innocent and would never harm others.

My completely imaginary research proves all this.

 

[DGM]

Yes, you are right. That's why they can not use autopilot which is weak and could not remove a dead pilot body. And that's why they should have used very strong non reversible worm reducer. The movements are very slow, with very small power and such reduction they can get strong torque and push the body of a dead pilot.

And naturally these "non reversible worm reducer" would not attach themselves to the cables until after the pilots were dead.

Sure, seems almost more reasonable than duping 19 radical fundamentalist into hi-jacking the planes for "the cause".

 

[I Ratant]

And apparently not informing the "muscle hijackers" that they would be enjoying those 72 virgins at the end of the flight.
They even murder their own.

 

[Zep]

...a world of his own...

 

[WildCat]

My work is consistent with all known strong evidence.

Nope.

 

[Zep]

My work is consistent with all known strong evidence.

Actually, it is. We now know that if you propose some theory about 9-11, the strong evidence will consistently show your work is laughably wrong.