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South Tower 81st floor filled with thermite?

9/11 Chewy Defense said:
I'm reminded of that duck from Aflack!

"If you have a problem with buildings coming down by the use of thermite, please call Aflack at.........."
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I'm kinda disappointed in you, Chewey.

I'd rather call the cheerleaders.

No matter what the emergency...


tk
 
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Triterope said:
It really is. He starts with an out-of-context quote reported by Eric Bollyn on Eric Hufschmid's website, follows it up with a ludicrous misunderstanding of what a UPS is, and has now shifted to... oh, you meant the animated GIF.
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That was the fail-dozer plowing through houses, schools, pools, etc sans driver.

(IOW - "see... the engine's running but there's nobody behind the wheel....)
 
tfk said:
I ain't read nuthin' bout nuthin', but i recently read an article where they talked about a duck & thermite. Such as can be seen in this picture:



And in this one:
Thermite & Duck:
[qimg]http://www.lukecole.com/Roadside%20Attractions/Mimetic/NY/Big_duck_web.jpg[/qimg]
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Nice! The Big Duck out in Flanders (Long Island, out by the Hamptons). I better be careful not to thrown my cig out the window the next time I drive past it. :p
 
Anders Lindman said:
National security. That's it! The cover-up has been done out of the need for national security, including George W. Bush who started the cover-up by lying publicly about seeing the first plane crash into the tower on television.
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Attacking yourself is the complete opposite of national security.
 
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Anders Lindman said:
The Manhattan project included 100 thousand people or something like that, and could be kept secret for several years.
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twinstead said:
... Do you really think that if the atomic bomb destined for Japan actually went off in Chicago that thousands of people wouldn't be coming out of the woodwork to blow the whistle? Do you think that people involved in plotting and setting up 9-11, once the deed went down, wouldn't put 2 and 2 together? And, are you really comparing the Manhattan Project to 9-11?

Even so, when the bomb went off in Japan it wasn't exactly a secret anymore was it?
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twinstead said:
Yes, 100,000 people participated in setting up 9-11 and kept secret for national security reasons. LOL. Like I said. What would be the reaction when they realized their preparation was for mass murder of 3000 of their own countrymen? Think a couple of them may have been a tad pissed? Or somebody covering up the event having a bout of conscience?

Why after 10 years has NOBODY come forward with a deathbed confession that they were a member of the team that rigged the explosives, or they had a hand in falsifying evidence, or they were a member of a team planting airplane parts at the Pentagon, or...well, you get the point. Your position on 9-11 is irrational in the extreme.
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
The Manhattan Project went public after three years (1942-1945). And secrecy on it was broken (penetrated by soviet spies) from day one.
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dafydd said:
There was a soviet spy there almost from the beginning.
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Oy.... as everyone else has been pointing out, the Manhattan Project isn't even remotely comparable. To add to all that: Above and beyond what everyone else here was saying, you also had physical locational security for the project.

Thought experiment: Take the Los Alamos and/or Oak Ridge facilities. Walk unaware, uncontrolled, random civillians all over the place. Crash a damn airplane in the middle of either and let all those civillians witness it. Then call in the local civillian fire and police departments, and then for days afterwards have rescue and cleanup personnel, and tons of different law enforcement agencies staff members crawl all over everything while reporters watched, took pictures,and recorded video. And only then compare the levels of security between the places.

See the difference?

The situations are not comparable because the Manhattan Project did not happen out in public! On the contrary, at least at Los Alamos and Oak Ridge it was taken out on physically controlled compounds where the people involved lived within the boundaries of the controlled areas. There were dormitories and the like. Heck, there are even picture books available documenting those living quarters.

I'm not even going to do a Gravy Line on this one. Just keep in mind that the Strong Irreducible Delusion here is that there was a conspiracy that included thousands and thousands of people. The Manhattan Project wasn't kept as secret, and it was a wartime military project mostly taking place in tightly controlled areas! That alone should be enough to illustrate how delusionary this proposal is.
 
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CORed said:
UPS's use lead-acid batteries. Lead has a low melting point, so that accounts for the molten metal, if that's what if actually was.
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Yep, that and aircraft-grade light aluminium alloys. Melting points somewhere between lead and steel, apparently, and they burn nice and bright too.
 
tfk said:
I'm kinda disappointed in you, Chewey.

I'd rather call the cheerleaders.

No matter what the emergency...


tk
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Wai... wha?... cheerleaders??

(*Pages back...*)



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Anders is truly in need of a mental health professional. I am not saying that as a joke either. After reading this thread, he does not seem to be willfully lying or deceitful. He actually believes everything he says. He appears to be in dire need of some serious help, in the real world.
 
Quad4_72 said:
Anders is truly in need of a mental health professional. I am not saying that as a joke either. After reading this thread, he does not seem to be willfully lying or deceitful. He actually believes everything he says. He appears to be in dire need of some serious help, in the real world.
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I don't know, he appears to be a bill smith to me, IOW a professional devil's advocate. All I can say is I wish all truthers, crazy or not, were as polite.
 
Triterope said:
So your proof of the conspiracy is that a larger number of people were involved in the cover-up of the same conspiracy? Circular reason much?
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No, two separate things. Those who were forced to do the cover-up were innocent of the initial 9/11 attacks on the WTC at least.

Why would the U.S. government protect the perpetrators? The answer is: out of national security. The Bush administration could simply not suddenly say that no planes were involved in the 9/11 attacks when almost everybody already had seen the planes crashing into the WTC towers on television. Today Barack Obama may be able to say that no planes were involved, since people are no longer as traumatized as they were when the attacks happened back in 2001.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Attacking yourself is the complete opposite of national security.
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To stress this point again: The Bush administration was NOT a part of the initial conspiracy imo. The tricky perpetrators rigged the event so that the government was forced to cover up the incident.
 
Anders, you are entirely misinterpreting the term "national security".

National Security in its proper usage refers to the requirement to maintain the survival of the nation-state through the use of economic, military and political power and the exercise of diplomacy. In other words, National Security means keeping things secret so that other COUNTRIES and entities outside of the United States cannot exploit them to our disadvantage. Not to keep things meant to cause harm or that have caused harm to the citizens of the United States secret.

There aren't enough facepalms, I swear to FSM...
 
Sabrina said:
Anders, you are entirely misinterpreting the term "national security".

National Security in its proper usage refers to the requirement to maintain the survival of the nation-state through the use of economic, military and political power and the exercise of diplomacy. In other words, National Security means keeping things secret so that other COUNTRIES and entities outside of the United States cannot exploit them to our disadvantage. Not to keep things meant to cause harm or that have caused harm to the citizens of the United States secret.

There aren't enough facepalms, I swear to FSM...
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During the time when the attacks happened in 2001, the situation was critical for the American society. If the Bush administration would admit that they had been totally fooled by images on television, just like the rest of the population plus essentially all people around the world, then that would have been very DANGEROUS for the entire nation, i.e. a serious national security risk, because people's trust in their government could have been destroyed to a degree risking social collapse.
 
twinstead said:
I don't know, he appears to be a bill smith to me, IOW a professional devil's advocate. All I can say is I wish all truthers, crazy or not, were as polite.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that we might be getting Poe'd.


tom
 
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