Warring No planer factions- Shansksville and Pentagon no-planers vs WTC no planers

Anders Lindman said:
Conspiracies CAN exist in all kinds of situations. It depends on what interests the powers have. People who believe their television set can spy on them are most likely crazy paranoid. Unless it's one of those new digital TV sets that have a hidden camera that sends video recordings back via the digital channel or wirelessly. Just kidding! :D
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It's called hacking into someones computer, activate their webcam & then spy on them. If they did put cameras in TV's, they'd be more expensive.

You lost it Anders!
 
AJM8125 said:
So, following your reasoning, those who work in and maintain buildings are likely to discover a cannon loaded with heavy aircraft parts and enough explosives to blow them 3 blocks and tell somebody, those who work in broadcast television are likely to find discrepancies in production, etc, etc, etc.

Thank you.
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Not to go too much off topic, but the 81st floor filled with 'battery-looking things' (thermite?), only some people working for Fuji Bank had access to.
 
AJM8125 said:
This thread has run the no-planer gauntlet, so I'm quite sure the so-called topic you're worried about has long been derailed.

Answer the question and if you feel I'm off topic, then please do not hesitate to report this post.
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Ok, the answer is no, I haven't seen any large UPS system being built. The possible thermite on floor 81 in the South Tower is related to the no plane theory I came to think of. They only needed to rig one floor with thermite, in order to make the collapse start at that floor. The collapse of the entire towers happened because they were designed to collapse like that, straight down, in the case of a severe earthquake for safety reasons. And indeed witnesses reported earthquake like shakes seconds before the collapse of each tower, probably caused by a large amount of explosives detonated under the basements of the towers.

IF floor 81 of the South Tower was rigged with tons of thermite, then they had to make sure the 'plane' crashed around that floor. To have real planes piloted precisely to hit the exact floors would have been very risky. The perpetrators operated based on zero risk.
 
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Anders Lindman said:
Ok, the answer is no, I haven't seen any large UPS system being built. The possible thermite on floor 81 in the South Tower is related to the no plane theory I came to think of.
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So once again you arrive at a conclusion that you will stick with through thick and thin despite having no experience or training upon which to base these conclusions.

Got it!
They only needed to rig one floor with thermite, in order to make the collapse start at that floor. The collapse of the entire towers happened because they were designed to collapse like that, straight down, in the case of a severe earthquake for safety reasons. And indeed witnesses reported earthquake like shakes seconds before the collapse of each tower, probably caused by a large amount of explosives detonated under the basements of the towers.

IF floor 81 of the South Tower was rigged with tons of thermite, then they had to make sure the 'plane' crashed around that floor. To have real planes piloted precisely to hit the exact floors would have been very risky. The perpetrators operated based on zero risk.
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I litteraly laughed out loud at this Anders. This is a prime example of what is termed the "Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy".
 
Originally Posted by fess
Gone, just like one of the “black boxes” in the crash in Amsterdam that was never found. A crash that I might remind you that was much slower than the crash of the aircraft that struck the towers.
Besides not doing any research, being lazy, lying most of the time, you have a short memory also.
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Anders Lindman said:
Don't you think they can have conspiracies in Holland too? ;) What if they lied about only one black box found?
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Of course, asking you if you might have some evidence to back up this insane claim would be out of line... right?
 
Anders Lindman said:
Wrong. I have no proof that people that are said to be witnesses even exist. They could be completely fictitious persons. Except known journalists and people like that, but they are often such liars anyway.
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So you have no proof of a cover up and it's okay to call someone like Mr. Hansen's father a liar? It's also okay to use smiley faces when talking about the murder of his son, his grandchild and daughter-in-law is it? When did you decide it was okay to turn this topic into a joke?
 
Anders Lindman said:
This is getting off topic but seriously, I hate to lie. Because then I will have to remember the lies, and make up other lies to cover the first lies and so on until there is a whole messy and entangled web of lies that I have to manage. That's just an enormous amount of burdensome friction, a huge overhead. That sucks.
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So you must hate writing in this thread with all the dishonesty you've been spewing.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Ok, the answer is no, I haven't seen any large UPS system being built. The possible thermite on floor 81 in the South Tower is related to the no plane theory I came to think of. They only needed to rig one floor with thermite, in order to make the collapse start at that floor. The collapse of the entire towers happened because they were designed to collapse like that, straight down, in the case of a severe earthquake for safety reasons. And indeed witnesses reported earthquake like shakes seconds before the collapse of each tower, probably caused by a large amount of explosives detonated under the basements of the towers.

IF floor 81 of the South Tower was rigged with tons of thermite, then they had to make sure the 'plane' crashed around that floor. To have real planes piloted precisely to hit the exact floors would have been very risky. The perpetrators operated based on zero risk.
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You have evidence of this thermite? Produce it.
 
Anders Lindman said:
I have no proof that people that are said to be witnesses even exist. They could be completely fictitious persons. Except known journalists and people like that, but they are often such liars anyway.
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You are a cornucopia of logical fallacies Anders.
This one is called an appeal to ignorance or an arguement from ignorance. You claim that since you, and most readers, do not know these people personally and therefore have no definitive proof that they even exist, that this makes the statements attributed to them irellevent and subject to be completely ignored, even scorned.

However it is not argueable that if planes did hit the towers, especially WTC 2 since the burning WTC 1 drew a crowd, then there will be witnesses to the plane's impact.
If planes did not hit the towers there would be many people in the same locations as the witnesses who's statements we do have and who would come forward to say that they too were looking up at the towers and did not see the plane(s).

Given that people do make statements about seeing the planes and no eyewitness has come forward to dispute the ability of those persons to have seen what they claim to have witnessed we can attribute more credibility to the statements than to your completely unsubstantiated contention that the witness statements are manufactured.
 
Only idiots are no-planers. Morgan Reynolds is insane, he is a no planer.

http://nomoregames.net/ Mental Illness, personified. Happy Dale next patient.

Thousand of people saw 175 impact the WTC on 911, and RADAR data verifies it was 175. Only mentally ill morons would deny it. RADAR data can't be refuted, it is reality, based on science. To deny 175 impacted the WTC is enough to be committed to a mental institution for the insane.

Why are no-plane crazies able to type and have web pages? Freedom of speech?
 
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