Warring No planer factions- Shansksville and Pentagon no-planers vs WTC no planers

twinstead said:
Just because the broadcast was live doesn't mean the shot of the plane being identified was live. They could have acquired that image just before the crash and then continued playing it after the fact for visual emphasis. That would be tantamount to seeing an image of the burning WTC7 buildings being shown after the collapse and finding it suspicious.

There could be any number of additional innocent explanations. Shouldn't you eliminate all of those before you present the video as some kind of evidence of wrong doing?
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I think they at least claimed in the news broadcast that it was live images of the flight tracking program. Someone could contact MSNBC and ask them about it.
 
Anders Lindman said:
And what grade would you give those who searched for black boxes at Ground Zero? If there really were real planes, then those responsible for the search must have done a very shoddy job. Yes?
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Grade A!

No! Those who searched for plane parts didn't do a "shoddy job". They did the right thing by video taping & photographing the areas, as with any criminal case to collect evidence.

You have nothing but words to describe your paranoia.
 
9/11 Chewy Defense said:
Grade A!

No! Those who searched for plane parts didn't do a "shoddy job". They did the right thing by video taping & photographing the areas, as with any criminal case to collect evidence.

You have nothing but words to describe your paranoia.
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Ha! Don't you think that some fragment from any of the black boxes would have been found if there really were real planes? Zip, zero, nada? All black boxes evaporating into thin air?
 
Craig4 said:
Why do you think this is funny? Why the smiley faces? You lie about people, make a game out of tragedies and you think it's funny? What decent person would do something as vile as what you're doing?
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I don't lie about people. At least not knowingly. Or only to protect myself or the people.
 
Anders Lindman said:
I don't lie about people. At least not knowingly. Or only to protect myself or the people.
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Oh, now that's courageous of you. You've called everyone who saw a plane strike the buildings a liar. You called the man who got called by his son right before flt 175 hit the World Trade Center a liar. At least admit it. You might try to salvage some decency here.
 
Anders Lindman said:
theoretically the floors could have been so strong that they were not the weakest 'link' and instead that the columns were the weakest link,
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No. Floor systems in commercial buildings are generally rated at 150 lbs/ft2.

And on 9/11 the floors of the WTC were loaded way more than this design spec. Once the first floor failed, that the rest would follow was a certainty.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Ha! Don't you think that some fragment from any of the black boxes would have been found if there really were real planes? Zip, zero, nada? All black boxes evaporating into thin air?
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The problem with that evaporating theory is the you have to prove that the black boxes melted, that they reached their boiling points & slowly evaporated.

Again, you have no such evidence that metal can evaporate at a low tempertature of 1,341*F.
 
WildCat said:
No. Floor systems in commercial buildings are generally rated at 150 lbs/ft2.

And on 9/11 the floors of the WTC were loaded way more than this design spec. Once the first floor failed, that the rest would follow was a certainty.
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Look up the difference between theoretical and practical. ;)
 
Taken from Truther website "9/11 Blogger":

http://911blogger.com/node/16089

Within a June 5, 2008 response from the NTSB, it is explained why unique FDR serial numbers are required to obtain correct FDR data readout:

"The exact serial number of the unit delineates manufacturing break points. The serial number is used to identify when a recorder manufacturer switched from a certain memory configuration to another. This information is necessary to perform the correct recovery of the data."


http://www.savefile.com/files/1607005

Within a May 5, 2008 response from the NTSB, it is indicated that FDR part and serial numbers are normally obtained directly from FAA and airline aircraft records:


http://www.savefile.com/files/1607008

Because the FBI was the lead investigative agency regarding the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, FAA and airline aircraft records would have presumably been brought under the control of and made available by the FBI.

Within a June 11, 2008 reply from the NTSB, the NTSB indicates that when FDR part and serial numbers are not known, they are not contained within NTSB published reports:

"The Safety Board will include the manufacturer, the part number and the serial number of the recorder in its formal reports (if known)."


http://www.savefile.com/files/1607012

The NTSB reports regarding the FDR's recovered from AA 77 and UA 93 are virtually the only ones during the past 20 years of major U.S. aviation mishaps, within which FDR part and serial numbers were not published (the complete list is provided below) Because each essential FDR part and serial number were not published, they were presumably not made available to the NTSB.

American airlines flight 77 FDR report:


http://www.ntsb.gov/info/AAL77_fdr.pdf

United airlines flight 93 report:


http://www.ntsb.gov/info/UAL93FDR.pdf
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Craig4 said:
Oh, now that's courageous of you. You've called everyone who saw a plane strike the buildings a liar. You called the man who got called by his son right before flt 175 hit the World Trade Center a liar. At least admit it. You might try to salvage some decency here.
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Wrong. I have no proof that people that are said to be witnesses even exist. They could be completely fictitious persons. Except known journalists and people like that, but they are often such liars anyway.
 
9/11 Chewy Defense said:
You have no proof plus you love lying!
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This is getting off topic but seriously, I hate to lie. Because then I will have to remember the lies, and make up other lies to cover the first lies and so on until there is a whole messy and entangled web of lies that I have to manage. That's just an enormous amount of burdensome friction, a huge overhead. That sucks.
 
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