Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[mehmetin]

Only in your mind. You see for the "official story" they are meaningless. The whole body of evidence makes them that way. For you however they are critical, it gives you the "gray area" your whole theory is based on.

The phone calls are NOT critical for my work. The main evidence that support my work is the succession of the hijacks, and it's 100% checked verified, and you can veriy it yourself.

But the phone calls are fake and they are critical for the official story because their theory is mostly based on these impossible phone calls.

If it's not too much trouble, I am still waiting for an explanation as to how you decide what evidence is real or fake.

You really need such explanation? You have no logics? But the answer is simple: All evidences should be interconnected, each evidence should be consistent with others and it should be consistent with all possible physical laws.

In other word, an independent evidence which technically impossible and which not supported by any other evidence is meaningless and should be considered as lie or not related to the events. But another evidence which is consistent by 2 to 10 other evidences should be considered as strong evidence.

 

[mehmetin]

The main computer and all electronics are almost not modified, only the servo actuators are designed to be able to simulate the movements of the arms of the pilots.

A robot?

Not really a robot in that meaning. Just three linear axis that moves the flight controls. The flight controls that the pilots moves in left-right and forward-backward are transformed into linear movements of cables under the pilots' seats. Just moving these cables in linear way.

 

[mehmetin]

Again, you cannot know what you claim to know, unless you have direct evidence of perjury on the part of the FBI. And if you really did have evidence, any of you truthers could use it to prosecute the FBI - it wouldn't be too difficult. But since the evidence exists only in your minds, you can't do anything but accuse them of lying - but really it's probably you who is lying.

No, it’s not so easy to prosecute the FBI. You need to be part of the events, so you must be victim. I can tell you clearly, I have strong evidence against the official reports, they contain huge lies.

All your claims are based on these phone calls which are proved as impossible. So the official story is a white lie.

The official story did never explain the succession of the hijacks, and they are still ignoring these facts.

 

[mehmetin]

That's perfectly fine with me: she believes she spoke with her husband, and believes he called from his cell phone. End of story. We can accept it without further speculation and move on.

Except tha tI proved you such cellular phone call is impossible and that using voice changing software it's possible to produce the phone calls. That destroys all your claims and all official story.

Bye for the phone calls and for teh official story. You and USA government should explain the events using otehr evidence. They are debunked and they are wrong, false, white lie, ...

My "independent individual" research work is too much stronger than the official story which cost millions and more dollars.

 

[mehmetin]

I suppose that these super Jews would find it easy to trace any IP address and do some dastardly deed to any Muslim badmouthing them.

Knock Knock................lol.

That's what too many people believe and tehy remain silent. I do not!

 

[Zep]

Not really a robot in that meaning. Just three linear axis that moves the flight controls. The flight controls that the pilots moves in left-right and forward-backward are transformed into linear movements of cables under the pilots' seats. Just moving these cables in linear way.

You can't honestly and sanely be serious. You have GOT to be kidding... What do you think they were flying that day? A Tiger Moth?

 

[Zep]

No, it’s not so easy to prosecute the FBI. You need to be part of the events, so you must be victim. I can tell you clearly, I have strong evidence against the official reports, they contain huge lies.

You have produced not one shred, not one particle, not one iota of evidence whatsoever. So if you repeat this assertion again, please know that you are lying.

All your claims are based on these phone calls which are proved as impossible. So the official story is a white lie.

They have been proved as 100% true. So you have done or produced absolutely nothing to dent the true facts as they happened.

The official story did never explain the succession of the hijacks, and they are still ignoring these facts.

Because it is entirely unimportant to proving anything. In fact, your own evidence you produce completely DISproves your own assertions.

If you are not a rather stupid troll, you are one of the willfully ignorant people of the world. God gave you a brain to think with - you have decided to put yours through a blender and feed it to the weasels.

 

[mehmetin]

In any case, the mother confirms that he often called her using the "this is your son..." line. Is the mother part of the conspiracy? Is she being coerced or bribed into saying that? …
So too are your suspicions over the "this is your son" phone call, in my opinion.

Yes, My suspicions about that phone call may be unfounded. That’s why it’s not included in my book and on my web site. I just told it here as “suspicion”. Yes His mother my be right, and he may be used to speak on such official manner.

I think you are missing the point of my story somewhat. What I'm saying is that when a person believes with absolute, unswayable certainty that they are right about something (that they are in actuality wrong about), they are forced to come up with increasingly odd and improbable explanations to square their belief with any contradictory evidence. This is what you (and frankly all "Truthers") do, whether you are consciously aware of it or not.

If you compare me to the “truthers”, I am obliged to tell you are right. Yes, in the “truthers” there are too many unfounded crazy theories. I checked most of them, and most of them appeared to wrong. I told them that their theories are wrong, and explained why they are wrong. As you tell it, they can not believe that their theories are wrong.

But my belief about the “truthers” is that they are disinformation agents and they keep such false theories in their messages to show that “all truthers” are crazy paranos. In other words, most of the truthers’ leaders are part of the cover up. That’s why I clearly left them and I put clear difference to them all. That’s also why I tell that I am Muslim.

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Also, as I told here up, I had to change several times my opinion when I reached some impossible things.

That's good to hear. For the record, a lot of what you currently believe probably isn't technically speaking "impossible", but it is wildly improbable and certainly much less probable than the so called "official story".

Let’s say “that’s our difference” between you and me. That’s also the difference between the majority of “Western World” and the majority of “Muslim World”.

But that difference should be solved. For the benefit of the humanity, that difference should be studied and solved definitely.

In my side, I am ready to defend my work in any justice court. Just some criterions are needed: The court should be independent, it must contain equally distributed people from whole world, to get equal level all the costs should be paid by the justice or international organisations.

 

[mehmetin]

It would have been easier to plug a TomTom into a Macbook and have that fly the plane via USB. lol

Sorry, that's not reliable! The success probability is 0.00001%.

 

[mehmetin]

There is no way to do the modification you want without tearing the plane apart. It could take months, or more. A one of a kind system could cost a billion dollars. Changes made to an existing plane would leave a trail bigger than McVeigh left.

Do you have a general drawing of teh cables way from the flight controls to the hydraulic systems taht move the wing surfaces?

I find it offensive you are blaming others for the work of 19 murderers, doing it with fantasy, made up lies, without evidence.

I am just finding the truth about these horrible events to identify the perpetrators and make justice for humanity.

Do your parents know you are making fun of Americans being killed and blaming Israel? Are they happy about it? When is school out for the summer?

I am older than you! I have too much more wide experience than you who my only flight planes.

 

[mehmetin]

Since when did the Tomahawk missile guidance system incorporate a scenic route program in its TERCON program? After all, did not Flt 175 fly over five different states?

How did the Tomahawk guidance system work with the 757/767 FMC when the programs are not compatible? Did the Tomahawk guidance system turn the FMC off? If so… how?

These are the easy questions. Once these are answered, the tough questions can be asked.

Oops, four states.

teh tomahawk system remains totally independent from plane's systems. It just replaced the pilots who are also not connected to the plane's systems, except if you prove us that the pilots are connected to the electronic systems of the planes trough their brain!

 

[Zep]

Sorry, that's not reliable! The success probability is 0.00001%.

And your "Tomahawk missile guidance system" idea is SIGNIFICANTLY LESS sensible than that.

 

[Zep]

teh tomahawk system remains totally independent from plane's systems. It just replaced the pilots who are also not connected to the plane's systems, except if you prove us that the pilots are connected to the electronic systems of the planes trough their brain!

You have no connection, absolutely none, with reality. You are not even tangentially impinging on it. Not within light-years of it. No-one this disconnected can even wash and feed themselves properly.


I'm calling this straight out: Mehemetin, you are a troll.

 

[Zep]

Do you have a general drawing of teh cables way from the flight controls to the hydraulic systems taht move the wing surfaces?

Are you serious? The people you are talking with are pilots and the engineers who BUILD THE PLANES! So the answer to your question is "Yes". And they know much more than you that a Tomahawk guidance system really is a stupid and unworkable idea.

I am just finding the truth about these horrible events to identify the perpetrators and make justice for humanity.

No, you are making up crap by the truckload to troll this forum.

I am older than you! I have too much more wide experience than you who my only flight planes.

They are older and wiser than you, and have been BUILDING and FLYING and REPAIRING aircraft for decades. So if you keep this up, you are only making yourself look more foolish than when you started. If that was ever possible.

 

[Oystein]

Not really a robot in that meaning. Just three linear axis that moves the flight controls. The flight controls that the pilots moves in left-right and forward-backward are transformed into linear movements of cables under the pilots' seats. Just moving these cables in linear way.

Are you aware that pilots and airline crews perform extensive technical checks before each flight, going through long check lists and looking at every part of the plane that is important for flying?

Are you aware that installing the mechanics you imagine here takes a lot of time - days, weeks, months?

Are you aware that the four planes that crashed that day had been in normal service for some time before 9/11?

You must therefore assume that all the maintenance crews of American Airlines, United Airlines and Boeing on all the airports that the 4 planes had stopped during the days, weeks, months before 9/11 must either be part of the conspiracy and have covered up that they found robots and cables on the cockpit controls, or all would have had to be extremely incompetent. In the latter case, the conspiracy would still have run an extreme risk of being uncovered by even incompetent pilots and technicians.


However, you have no material evidence for any of the things you speculate about.

You just imagine away.
When will you notice that this is all only in your imagination?



Anyway, add "aircraft maintenance" to the list of many things critical to understanding 9/11 that you do NOT understand.

 

[tsig]

Not really a robot in that meaning. Just three linear axis that moves the flight controls. The flight controls that the pilots moves in left-right and forward-backward are transformed into linear movements of cables under the pilots' seats. Just moving these cables in linear way.

Did they use hydraulic actuators to move the cables?

 

[Zep]

Djinns.

 

[Oystein]

Except tha tI proved you such cellular phone call is impossible ...

I got a little story:

In the days of the Cold War, when Germany was still separated and the capital of West Germany was Bonn, they built a government bunker in a mountain region not far from Bonn, which was to be equipped as commando center for government and military in the case of nuclear war.

One key requirement was that the bunker be shielded from any radio frequencies going in or out, to guard against eavesdropping.


One day, someone watched a construction worker outside of the bunker talk to a colleague on walkie-talkie, and learned that the colleague was deep inside the installation.

So, supposedly, using walkie-talkies there was impossible - except that they just did it.


Using mobile phones on planes was not impossible in 2001, when both mobile devices and the antennae on the ground generally used more broadcast power than they do today. The evidence for this are the records of cell phone calls made from planes.

 

[Zep]

He's been told this many times over already. Because it doesn't gel with his preconceived troll-world, he calls it Jewish and ignores it.

 

[Oystein]

Yes, My suspicions about that phone call may be unfounded. That’s why it’s not included in my book and on my web site. I just told it here as “suspicion”. Yes His mother my be right, and he may be used to speak on such official manner.

Why do you bother us with things you thinjk are unimportant? Is that a smoke screen? Do you hope that by sacrificing the unimportant (and false) speculations we might let you get away with the important (and false) speculations?

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But my belief about the “truthers” is that they are disinformation agents and ... most of the truthers’ leaders are part of the cover up. That’s why I clearly left them and I put clear difference to them all.

Do you have any material evidence or compelling logic for that?

...That’s also why I tell that I am Muslim.

How does that information affect the veracity of your claims and the strength of your arguments? Does being a Muslim make a lie true, or an error correct? Or do you think Muslims are generally more trustworthy than, say, Christians, Jews or atheists? Why?

Let’s say “that’s our difference” between you and me. That’s also the difference between the majority of “Western World” and the majority of “Muslim World”.

Got material evidence for that?

...The court should be independent, it must contain equally distributed people from whole world, to get equal level all the costs should be paid by the justice or international organisations.

Why must this be an international affair? The crime was done in the USA. Would Turkey accept an international tribunal for terror attacks in Istanbul?