9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[dafydd]

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A "lighter note" is continuing to make fun of a young lady whose only 'crime', which caused her to be deported to a camp in which conditions were so bad she dies was that she was born Jewish, by posting a completely unrelated picture and lying about it?

Why don't you "get back to" telling us exactly what Anne Frank had personally done to deserve this?

You are a very deeply disturbed individual.
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She was Jewish,that's enough for our Dutch Hitler hugger.

 

[Northern_warrior]

How do you explain the fantastic growth in holocaust denial over the years?

The ones Ive encountered in real life that are touting this nonsense are people that very obviously are suffering from a mental disorder of some sort..not the same with everyone ..but many have felt that they somehow have been "forgot" or "let down" by the system or have been made to feel unimportant.

In their growing minoroty complex's,they fall further and further down the rabbit hole until they have created an alternate reality where they can feel like the master of their universe..usually starts out as coping methods.


Well,even 9/11 truthing doesnt raise too many eyebrows these days(just makes people laugh at them), so they needed to find something new, sure-fire to offend a lot of people ,so they knew they get some more attention .

So they pick up the most disgusting conspiracy theories out there..courtesy of their new friends at "stormfront" etc wich "joined forces" with their little club when Obama was elected..so by debating things that is not really up for debate,they have discovered a new attention gold-mine..even if its bad attention..

Many have even done some mental gymnastics to try convince themselves this is somehow the right thing to do and that their claims somehow hold any merit..while ironically as a by-product defending a system(nazi-germany,and their beloved newly adopted "uncle adolph") wich would have "debated" them with a bullet in the head if they tried to question authority/the government in this fashion back then..

 

[9/11-investigator]

Wikipedia on Madagaskar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

Interesting to me is that it were not the Nazis who were to consider sending the Jews to Madagaskar. The Jews themselves considered Uganda as a Lebensraum:

For its part, the Zionist Movement in 1904-5 seriously debated—though it ultimately rejected—the British Uganda Programme by which Jews were to be settled in Uganda (actually, in present-day Kenya). The adherents of Territorialism split off from Zionism and looked throughout the world for places where Jews might settle and create a state or at least an autonomous area—though they are not known to have considered Madagascar, specifically, in that role.

In May 1940, Heinrich Himmler, in his Reflections on the Treatment of Peoples of Alien Races in the East, declared: "I hope that the concept of Jews will be completely extinguished through the possibility of a large emigration of all Jews to Africa or some other colony."

Interesting of course is the use of language: the Jews are to be completely extinguished [uhoh]... by emigration [uff, what a relief]. Glad we settled that once and for all.

it was not until 1940 that the planning process was actually set in motion. Following the Franco-German armistice of 25 June, Franz Rademacher recommended as one of the terms of a peace treaty with France, that France make her colony Madagascar available as a destination for Jews from Europe.

So once Europe was theirs, the Nazis started to live up to their plans. They could have done with the Jews what they wanted, but decided to send them to a place where Europeans today have to pay big bucks to spend a lousy week there. Any idea how beautiful the water of the Indian Ocean is? It is heaven. Lucky fellas, these Jews.

"The desirable solution is: all Jews out of Europe," said Rademacher. Rademacher believed that Jews transported to Madagascar should be deprived of their citizenship. Once Jews had been transported to Madagascar, further theorized Rademacher, they would be used as hostages to ensure "future good behavior of the members of their race in America"... On August 15, Eichmann released a draft titled Reichssicherheitshauptamt: Madagaskar Projekt, calling for the resettlement of one million Jews per year over four years, and abandoning the idea of retaining any Jews in Europe whatsoever. The RSHA, he emphasised, would control all aspects of the program.

One million Jews over 4 years with no Jews left in Europe. Now, how many is 4 * 1 million? Mind you, Germany had already occupied Western Europe + Poland.

Most Nazi officials, especially the authorities of the General Government (which administered the rump remains of Poland) including Hans Frank, viewed the forced resettlement of 4,000,000 Jews to Madagascar as being infinitely more desirable than the heretofore piecemeal efforts at deportation into Poland. As of July 10, all such deportations were cancelled, and construction of the Warsaw ghetto was halted, since it appeared to be unnecessary... It was envisioned that the Third Reich would win the Battle of Britain and invade and conquer Great Britain in Operation Sea Lion--then the British Fleet could be taken over by Germany and used to transport the Jews to Madagascar. How the native Malagasy population of Madagascar was to fit in with this plan was never elaborated upon...

The resistance of the United Kingdom during the Battle of Britain, and Germany's failure to achieve a quick victory by September, were the ultimate causes of the Plan's collapse. The British fleet would not be at Germany's disposal to be used in evacuations, and the war would continue indefinitely.

 

[TSR]

Interesting of course is the use of language:

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The language, you mean, that you're *not* using to explain why you feel the need to make fun of a young lady who was forcibly removed from her home, *twice*, and what she had personally done to deserve this?

Oh, and you can, of course, having actually read the memo in question, tell us all in which para this appears? What colonies did Germany have at the time which might have been suitable? You highlighted it, so your comment about Western Europe & Poland makes no sense in the context of "abandoning the idea of retaining Jews in Europe whatsoever."
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[Wroclaw]

I would remind our Dutch uncle that Germany had only occupied two-thirds of Poland in 1940. In the eastern third of Poland were another million Jews, not to mention the Jews in the Baltic States, Ukraine, and Belarus, none of whom would fall under Nazi control until '41. Nor would the Jews of Hungary until '44. We're talking at least another two million Jews in those areas combined, if not more.

Nice try, uncle. But you'll have to try again.

 

[USSManhattan]

Conclusion: max. 1.5 million Jews died or were missing as a result of the events of WW2.

...and your point is?

One million plus dead is still one million plus dead. Assuming this was somehow how true, that's still a lot of innocent blood. Does it somehow make the Holocaust "better" or "acceptable" for you because "only" 1.5 million died?

By this logic, someone nuking Philadelphia (1.6M) is better than nuking New York City (8M) because it's a a smaller city; we're ignoring the fact we're still talking about the nuking of a major city.

 

[Craig4]

...and your point is?

One million plus dead is still one million plus dead. Assuming this was somehow how true, that's still a lot of innocent blood. Does it somehow make the Holocaust "better" or "acceptable" for you because "only" 1.5 million died?

By this logic, someone nuking Philadelphia (1.6M) is better than nuking New York City (8M) because it's a a smaller city; we're ignoring the fact we're still talking about the nuking of a major city.

I think Nazi boy's point is that he thinks that's a good start. He'll lie and say the Holocaust didn't happen but in reality he's glad it did.

 

[dafydd]

I notice that our Hitler groupies are shying clear of telling us what Anne Frank's crimes were,apart from being Jewish of course.

 

[MG1962]

I notice that our Hitler groupies are shying clear of telling us what Anne Frank's crimes were,apart from being Jewish of course.

Well 911 has been banned again

 

[Hans]

And what has our brother in light and truth done now to gain the mod rath?

 

[Craig4]

For about a week now I've had him on ignore. How about a pact that everyone put him on ignore? I think even by conversing with him we're supporting his mission to get his word out. Saggy and LGR might be deserving of the same. What does everyone think?

 

[Hans]

For about a week now I've had him on ignore. How about a pact that everyone put him on ignore? I think even by conversing with him we're supporting his mission to get his word out. Saggy and LGR might be deserving of the same. What does everyone think?

Nah unfortunately it is necessary to confront such historical foolishness. However on Saggy you might have a point as he seem rather puerile and touched with a bit of insanity.

 

[dafydd]

Well 911 has been banned again

Forever banished or suspended?

 

[dafydd]

Nah unfortunately it is necessary to confront such historical foolishness. However on Saggy you might have a point as he seem rather puerile and touched with a bit of insanity.

And impervious to any facts that do not come from a racist website.

 

[TSR]

Forever banished or suspended?

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Suspended
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[VonKleist]

Nah unfortunately it is necessary to confront such historical foolishness. However on Saggy you might have a point as he seem rather puerile and touched with a bit of insanity.

These Lying Dutchman threads are really just point-and-laugh affairs. Saggy has such a good track record for shooting himself in the foot that it seems a shame not to encourage him.

 

[dafydd]

These Lying Dutchman threads are really just point-and-laugh affairs. Saggy has such a good track record for shooting himself in the foot that it seems a shame not to encourage him.

He does have a certain talent for sabotaging his own arguments.

 

[Craig4]

These Lying Dutchman threads are really just point-and-laugh affairs. Saggy has such a good track record for shooting himself in the foot that it seems a shame not to encourage him.

True, in some cases it's just fun to poke the bear.

 

[Saggy]

For about a week now I've had him on ignore. How about a pact that everyone put him on ignore? I think even by conversing with him we're supporting his mission to get his word out. Saggy and LGR might be deserving of the same. What does everyone think?

Best idea you've had yet. Correction: the only idea you've had yet.

 

[dafydd]

Best idea you've had yet. Correction: the only idea you've had yet.

You only have one idea. "I hate da Jooz!"