Who started both World Wars?

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9/11-investigator said:
I was very likely you who complained about me pointing out your refusal to reveal your identity.
In the internet age it is no longer possible to surpress a piece of text. Sorry uke2se/TSR, but that is the way it is.

What are you going to do about it?
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In what way is my "identity" relevant, since I have already specifically told you I am not Jewish (which is a matter only of concern to mindless racists such as yourself?)

And can you point out where I have *ever* advocated the "suppressing" (note the spelling) of any text at all?








What's that?






You can't, because I never have?









I much prefer you to post any crap you care to, so I can point out that it is crap, and show that crap is all you have. For example, your crap that I have advocated any sort of suppression.



Seriously, why do you think lying so transparently actually *advances* your position?
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I much prefer you to post any crap you care to, so I can point out that it is crap, and show that crap is all you have. For example, your crap that I have advocated any sort of suppression.

Seriously, why do you think lying so transparently actually *advances* your position?
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The OP is supported by lies and denial what else can he do? The OP has no substance in reality.
 
Well, that's what you get for starting a war. Germany sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind.

They might have saved some of their precious buildings had they had the good sense to surrender earlier. By September of 1944 it was clear the Reich's days were numbered. But they stupidly fought on thanks to your ol' pal Hitler.
 
Corsair 115 said:
Well, that's what you get for starting a war. Germany sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind.

They might have saved some of their precious buildings had they had the good sense to surrender earlier. By September of 1944 it was clear the Reich's days were numbered. But they stupidly fought on thanks to your ol' pal Hitler.
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Well the battle of the Bulge confirmed that

"We will crush the allies and drive to Antwerp"

"And then what oh mighty Furher?"

"I dunno"
 
MG1962 said:
Well the battle of the Bulge confirmed that

"We will crush the allies and drive to Antwerp"

"And then what oh mighty Furher?"

"I dunno"
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It gets even worse:

"Mien Führer, we only have enough fuel to get halfway to our objectives."

"Not a problem. We'll just capture Allied fuel to get the rest of the way."

"Will that work?"

"Sure! Why not?"
 
If only they'd had a Euro pass and caught the train. How different history would have been
 
MG1962 said:
Yes because we all know only German cities are worth saving. Being all superior and stuff

Screw Coventry and the people who lived in that ancient city. Only Anglos, so they dont really count
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The first thing Churchill did when he came into office was starting bombarding civilian targets. The British started, the Germans reluctantly responded months later. The Anglos dropped 20 times the amount on Germany as the other way around.

http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/blitz.html
 
Corsair 115 said:
Well, that's what you get for starting a war. Germany sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind.
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Germany attacked Poland because they refused to give the German town of Danzig back, stripped from Germany in Versailles. How was that your business? Stop lying and admit you set up the Poles against the Germans so you could force Britain into war against Poland so you and your Soviet buddies had your ice breaker into Europe and divide the loot between you. And when I was in your position, surviving only at the merci of the Chinese, I would tone down a bit if I were you, your future does not look good at all. You are going to need us, not the other way around.
 
9/11-investigator said:
The first thing Churchill did when he came into office was starting bombarding civilian targets. The British started, the Germans reluctantly responded months later. The Anglos dropped 20 times the amount on Germany as the other way around.

http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/blitz.html
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Nope lying again 9/11? Did you forget Warsaw? Rotterdam? I guess you did...lol

The Rotterdam Blitz refers to the aerial bombardment of Rotterdam by the German Air Force on 14 May 1940, during the German invasion of the Netherlands in World War II. The objective was to support the German troops fighting in the city, break Dutch resistance, and force the Dutch to surrender. Even though negotiations were successful, failing communications on the German side caused the unnecessary bombardment of much of the city center.
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Ah Corsair, 9/11 seems to think you are much much older and more powerful than you really are.....lol

Germany attacked Poland because they refused to give the German town of Danzig back, stripped from Germany in Versailles. How was that your business? Stop lying and admit you set up the Poles against the Germans so you could force Britain into war against Poland so you and your Soviet buddies had your ice breaker into Europe and divide the loot between you. And when I was in your position, surviving only at the merci of the Chinese, I would tone down a bit if I were you, your future does not look good at all. You are going to need us, not the other way around.
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9/11 you do realize this contradicts your earlier comments that the Poles attacked Germany - please try and keep your made up story straight! lol

Germany invaded Poland with the aid of its ally, the Soviets - that is what started wwII, pretty simple, why do you continue to not understand this? Ah Danzig so they wanted Danzig...so why did they take all of Poland?
 
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Corsair 115 said:
It gets even worse:

"Mien Führer, we only have enough fuel to get halfway to our objectives."

"Not a problem. We'll just capture Allied fuel to get the rest of the way."

"Will that work?"

"Sure! Why not?"
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We are all lucky that Hitler was a raving nutcase.
 
Hans said:
9/11 you do realize this contradicts your earlier comments that the Poles attacked Germany - please try and keep your made up story straight! lol
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As my mother used to say,"a liar needs a good memory". Nein 11's seems to have failed him.
 
9/11-investigator said:
The first thing Churchill did when he came into office was starting bombarding civilian targets.
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As has been pointed out to you already, the idea of 'civilian' targets is essentially meaningless in a case of total war between industrialized nation-states. No civilians, no economy; no economy, no military; no military, no war. You've offered nothing to refute that. The pronounced economic and military effects on the German war effort by the Strategic Bomber Offensive were posted earlier in this thread. You've offered nothing to refute that either.


9/11-investigator said:
The Anglos dropped 20 times the amount on Germany as the other way around.
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Which, as has been pointed out to you already, was because the Allies grasped the importance of the strategic bomber and developed it. The Reich did not. Indeed, even defending its airspace was not given a high priority by the German leadership, particularly by your ol' pal Hitler.
 
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9/11-investigator said:
The Anglos dropped 20 times the amount on Germany as the other way around.

http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/blitz.html]

Yeah, that's called winning the war. Germany would have it it had been able. This goes back to my other point about the Allies being superior in applying elements of national power to the enemy centers of gravity. They denied the enemy the ability to produce planes, train enough pilots and fuel their aircraft by using overwhelming force. In war, this is a good thing to be able to do.
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9/11-investigator said:
The Anglos dropped 20 times the amount on Germany as the other way around.

http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/blitz.html]

Yeah, that's called winning the war. Germany would have it it had been able. This goes back to my other point about the Allies being superior in applying elements of national power to the enemy centers of gravity. They denied the enemy the ability to produce planes, train enough pilots and fuel their aircraft by using overwhelming force. In war, this is a good thing to be able to do.
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And the Allies were not driven by a racist agenda,and they had leaders who were not insane.
 
I found this gem in another thread, but it is too good to let it pass:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...uses-Poland-of-starting-Second-World-War.html

The Russian defence ministry posted a potentially inflammatory essay on its website which claimed Poland resisted Germany's ultimatums in 1939 only because it "wanted to obtain the status of a great power".

The lengthy diatribe, which is unlikely to be welcomed in Warsaw, also lashed out at Britain and France for giving the Poles "delusions of grandeur" by promising to intercede if the Nazis invaded.

"Anyone who has been minded to study the history of the Second World War knows it started because of Poland's refusal to meet Germany's requests," the statement read. "The German demands were very modest. You could hardly call them unfounded."
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The General is completely right, of course. More importantly it is showing that the Russians might be willing to change sides from the Nuremberg to the revisionist position. It will not be long before America will be the only party holding on to the old pack of lies while the rest of the world has moved on.

Who again is the most respected country in the world according to a recent BBC global poll? America? UK? Israel?

No, the country that took over the NYSE this week: Germany.
 
9/11-investigator said:
I found this gem in another thread, but it is too good to let it pass:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5445161/Russia-accuses-Poland-of-starting-Second-World-War.html
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So why didn't Hitler include those demands in the 1934 treaty.

When did Poland begin to get visions of grandure. The right of Britian and France to support Poland in times of war was upheld in the 1934 Treaty that Hitler signed

So why should he, or more importantly 'you' react so shocked when those two countries reacted exactly how they said the would if Hitler violated the treaty he signed
 
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