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The Freeman Movement and England

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Ickes are banning all new people registering on proxies.
I have asked 4 mates to sign up on a proxy and they have all been banned without having their accounts activated :D

So in trying to stop me adding any more log ons they are killing the site.
I have 3 in situe at the moment so its just a waiting game.

I dont know why they dont put the FMOTL section in the Rant room and then let people get on with it.

As for banning people, dont they realise its alternative opinons that make a forum, it may as well be a blog if they get rid of the skeptics.
 
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Stacey Grove said:
I assume by his response to rumpole's advice when he says:


he's probably decided he's going to tell the court he does not consent to Acts, perform the magic woo with oodles and oodles of oofle dust and watch the judge run terrified from the court crying "Abandon ship!"
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Failing that, there's always a song for these difficult situations:

Oh, Mr Woo
What shall I do?
I've got those Freeman courtroom blues...

(with apologies to George Formby and best of luck to the poor guy in court)
 
Well, well, well. I just got a case involving a FotL in real life, and it has to do with something I've not seen before from these people, so I thought I'd ask a question here rather than start a new thread since many of you have a ton of knowledge about FotL antics.

I can't go into great detail, for obvious reasons, but in this particular case, the FotL has been sending letters to various people and "signing" them with his/her fingerprint in blood, and referring to his/her "seal in blood" in the body of one of the pseudo-legal docs (full of the usual FotL nonsense) entitled "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll in Curiam Divina".

So, my question is: is this something new, this fingerprint in blood thing, or is this commonplace for these folks?

(It certainly strikes me as weird, not to mention being in breach of Canada Post regulations and not to mention being potentially harmful to recipients, etc.)
 
LashL said:
Well, well, well. I just got a case involving a FotL in real life, and it has to do with something I've not seen before from these people, so I thought I'd ask a question here rather than start a new thread since many of you have a ton of knowledge about FotL antics.

I can't go into great detail, for obvious reasons, but in this particular case, the FotL has been sending letters to various people and "signing" them with his/her fingerprint in blood, and referring to his/her "seal in blood" in the body of one of the pseudo-legal docs (full of the usual FotL nonsense) entitled "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll in Curiam Divina".

So, my question is: is this something new, this fingerprint in blood thing, or is this commonplace for these folks?

(It certainly strikes me as weird, not to mention being in breach of Canada Post regulations and not to mention being potentially harmful to recipients, etc.)
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Oh you've got a proper hardcore one there. Good luck. I've heard of this, but they are rare breeds.

I've only dealt with one freeman in my professional capacity and it was the most delicious game of cat and mouse. Enjoy!
 
LashL said:
Well, well, well. I just got a case involving a FotL in real life, and it has to do with something I've not seen before from these people, so I thought I'd ask a question here rather than start a new thread since many of you have a ton of knowledge about FotL antics.

I can't go into great detail, for obvious reasons, but in this particular case, the FotL has been sending letters to various people and "signing" them with his/her fingerprint in blood, and referring to his/her "seal in blood" in the body of one of the pseudo-legal docs (full of the usual FotL nonsense) entitled "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll in Curiam Divina".

So, my question is: is this something new, this fingerprint in blood thing, or is this commonplace for these folks?

(It certainly strikes me as weird, not to mention being in breach of Canada Post regulations and not to mention being potentially harmful to recipients, etc.)
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A quick search yields:

http://one-heaven.org/canons_positive_law/article_1330.htm

But I am a newbie, others will have far more to input.
 
First I've heard of it. Google the term "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll in Curiam Divina" to find some interesting stuff on it.

http://one-heaven.org/canons_positive_law/article_1330.htm

An Ecclesiastical Deed Poll is primarily different from a standard Deed Poll in that a True Person evokes their Divine Rights conveyed on Robin-egg blue paper and sealed by a thumbprint in blood to a Roman Person who has sought to usurp or abrogate these rights such as the Registrar of Vital Statistics that administers the (Lawful Slave) Rolls, also known as Register from which the Cestui Que Vie Trust are born.
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From this site:

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/1...non-law-judges-changing-personality-three-rec


All the information provided below regarding the "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll" and all other information provided by Frank O'Collins (and others) and from Frank O'Collins websites One-Heaven.org and Ucadia.com has not been tested by us.
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..it sounds like that One-Heaven.org site is the source for this particular version.

With the focus on religion and the Romans, it also sounds similar to some of the Detax Canada stuff, which might be where a Canadian would get into it. There was a big thread on that here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183943&highlight=detax
 
LashL said:
Well, well, well. I just got a case involving a FotL in real life, and it has to do with something I've not seen before from these people, so I thought I'd ask a question here rather than start a new thread since many of you have a ton of knowledge about FotL antics.

I can't go into great detail, for obvious reasons, but in this particular case, the FotL has been sending letters to various people and "signing" them with his/her fingerprint in blood, and referring to his/her "seal in blood" in the body of one of the pseudo-legal docs (full of the usual FotL nonsense) entitled "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll in Curiam Divina".

So, my question is: is this something new, this fingerprint in blood thing, or is this commonplace for these folks?

(It certainly strikes me as weird, not to mention being in breach of Canada Post regulations and not to mention being potentially harmful to recipients, etc.)
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"A valid Ecclesiastical Deed Poll must always be sealed in the blood of the Trustee of the True Trust issuing it by using their thumbprint with the blood signature covered by clear plastic or tape from direct exposure for the following fundamental reasons:
(i) The blood of the Trustee of the True Trust and the content of the Ecclesiastical Deed Poll prove the fraud and error of the continued existence of any Cestui Que (Vie) Trust in assuming the body is "dead"; and
(ii) The infusing of the blood of the Trustee onto the paper breathes life into the paper, creating an instrument superior in standing than even an inferior Roman Papal Bull. Therefore, if the document is dishonored, then all documents ever issued by any society under Roman law must also by definition be null and void; and
(iii) The use of blood in this manner perfects an unbreakable seal of an unbreakable deed and contract. Therefore, any inferior Roman court that usurps it openly admits that contract law under inferior Roman law no longer exists. "

Errr, is the paper used duck-egg blue?
 
Wow, you guys are good!

Indeed, it is on blue paper, with tape over it, just as described above.


Thanks!
 
Horatius said:
First I've heard of it. Google the term "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll in Curiam Divina" to find some interesting stuff on it.

http://one-heaven.org/canons_positive_law/article_1330.htm




From this site:

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/1...non-law-judges-changing-personality-three-rec





..it sounds like that One-Heaven.org site is the source for this particular version.

With the focus on religion and the Romans, it also sounds similar to some of the Detax Canada stuff, which might be where a Canadian would get into it. There was a big thread on that here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183943&highlight=detax
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Yes, Frank O'Collins is the new fashionable FMOTL 'guru' of the moment. He heads up the Ucadia organisation. It's the usually FMOTL tosh dressed up in a bizarre quasi catholic vestments. This is odd because O'Collins is rabidly anti catholic. he likes using latin (unnecessarily) to give his tripe the veneer of intelligence.

I don't know much about O'Collins other than he's Australian & has some seriously dedicated followers in the US. I'd say it's more cultish than the Menard version of FMOTL.
 
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LashL said:
Indeed, it is on blue paper, with tape over it, just as described above.
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Damn! I guess you and your firm are just SOL. You should probably just admit defeat and bow out honourably. Not much you can do to counter legal documents of this calibre.
 
D'rok said:
Damn! I guess you and your firm are just SOL. You should probably just admit defeat and bow out honourably. Not much you can do to counter legal documents of this calibre.
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Unless LashL has some robin egg blue paper of her own. Then it's game on!
 
gtm said:
Yes, Frank O'Collins is the new fashionable FMOTL 'guru' of the moment. He heads up the Ucadia organisation. It's the usually FMOTL tosh dressed up in a bizarre quasi catholic vestments. This is odd because O'Collins is rabidly anti catholic. he likes using latin (unnecessarily) to give his tripe the veneer of intelligence.

I don't know much about O'Collins other than he's Australian & has some seriously dedicated followers in the US. I'd say it's more cultish than the Menard version of FMOTL.
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FMOTL certainly has some strangely contrasted bedfellows. Have Frank O'Collins and Robert Menard ever met?
 
Grassy Knowlington said:
FMOTL certainly has some strangely contrasted bedfellows. Have Frank O'Collins and Robert Menard ever met?
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O'Collins is muscling in on the saps which means a potential drop in World Freeman Society membership dues. Menard won't like that one little bit :D
 
gtm said:
O'Collins is muscling in on the saps which means a potential drop in World Freeman Society membership dues. Menard won't like that one little bit :D
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Freemanwars - fantastic!

Sit back and watch them NOUICOR and fee schedule each other into submission.
 
tsig said:
Unless LashL has some robin egg blue paper of her own. Then it's game on!
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I would be looking to enter some actual robin eggs as exhibits to compare the colour. These sorts of details are very important in legal matters.
 
I am assuming they mean American Robins. European Robins lay a sort of sandy brown egg.
 
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