Israel tears down 80 year old hotel to make way for Jews ONLY

[Thunder]

1) How would it not be ethnic cleansing to "cleanse" East Jerusalem of the Jewish ethnicity?

first of all, Jews are a religion not an ethnicity. secondly, who is talking about removing "Jews" from EJ? this is about removing illegal settlements and illegal settlers from Occupied territory, and the Palestinians have already shown a willingness to allow many Israeli settlers stay in East Jerusalem and the West Bank, under Israeli and EVEN Palestinian sovereignty.

2) How is building an apartment building on land you own in a major city creating a "settlement"?

Israel's annexation of West Bank territory and calling it "East" Jerusalem was done unilaterally and is not recognized by a single nation on Earth, not even the USA.

3) How is it illegal to build an apartment building on land you own?

who sold it to them?

4) Since the issue is an American building an apartment building, how is it a reflection of Israel's policies at all?

um.....its done at the approval of the Israeli authorities. this purchase, demolition, and construction of segregated housing COULD NOT be done without Israeli govt. approval.

get it?

got it?

good.

 

[Mycroft]

first of all, Jews are a religion not an ethnicity.

Wow, that's a real face-palm statement.

secondly, who is talking about removing "Jews" from EJ?

You are. That's why you say Israel needs to invest in trucks that can move houses, remember?

this is about removing illegal settlements and illegal settlers...

Except you only define it as a "settlement" and "illegal" because it's a Jew building it. If the builder were Muslim, or if the tenants were Muslim, you would have no problem with it.

...from Occupied territory, and the Palestinians have already shown a willingness to allow many Israeli settlers stay in East Jerusalem and the West Bank, under Israeli and EVEN Palestinian sovereignty.

Which makes the Palestinians more tolerant than you.

Israel's annexation of West Bank territory and calling it "East" Jerusalem was done unilaterally and is not recognized by a single nation on Earth, not even the USA.

Which still doesn't make it illegal for an American from New York to buy a piece of land there and build an apartment building.

who sold it to them?

Don't know, don't care. If you think it's important, you look it up.

um.....its done at the approval of the Israeli authorities. this purchase, demolition, and construction of segregated housing COULD NOT be done without Israeli govt. approval.

The same Israeli authorities that approve all Arab buildings in East Jerusalem too.

get it?

got it?

good.

This is the kind of inane nonsense is why I put you on ignore.

 

[The Fool]

No, and it is Aboriginal only.

Yet all their housing is built off in a Bantustan...

Apartheid in new shoes.

No, it is not aboriginal only. There are people who live there who are not aboriginal there are couples where only one of them is aboriginal...Do you think they have to sleep outside or something. You are seriously deluded...or you have simply decided to shut down discussion with trolling chants and slogans.


If you simply ignore facts and continue to chant slogans do you wonder why people don't take you very seriously.

chant away.....

 

[Mycroft]

No, it is not aboriginal only. There are people who live there who are not aboriginal there are couples where only one of them is aboriginal...Do you think they have to sleep outside or something. You are seriously deluded...or you have simply decided to shut down discussion with trolling chants and slogans.


If you simply ignore facts and continue to chant slogans do you wonder why people don't take you very seriously.

chant away.....

Pot. Kettle.

 

[Skeptic]

1) How would it not be ethnic cleansing to "cleanse" East Jerusalem of the Jewish ethnicity?

Everybody knows it's not REALLY ethnic cleansing if it's done to someone Parky dislikes.

 

[Skeptic]

Wow, that's a real face-palm statement.

"Judaism is just a religion, not an ethnic group" is the PLO's standard reason for why Israel has no right to exist. I can hardly say I'm surprised he agrees with the PLO and Hamas.

 

[Thunder]

Everybody knows it's not REALLY ethnic cleansing if it's done to someone Parky dislikes.

removing illegal settlements and illegal settlers, is only "ethnic cleansing" if you support illegal activity.

and yes, Jews are not one single ethnic group. that is a silly claim.

 

[WildCat]

No, it is not aboriginal only. There are people who live there who are not aboriginal there are couples where only one of them is aboriginal...Do you think they have to sleep outside or something. You are seriously deluded...or you have simply decided to shut down discussion with trolling chants and slogans.


If you simply ignore facts and continue to chant slogans do you wonder why people don't take you very seriously.

chant away.....

Amazing how resolute you are in defending the indefensible.

"The Alliances are working closely with communities and government to deliver better housing for Indigenous Australians in the NT" http://www.dhlgrs.nt.gov.au/housing/remotehousing/sihip

Keeping the darkies out in the wilderness, eh The Fool? Australia can't have those people around the white folk!

Apartheid in new shoes.

 

[WildCat]

removing illegal settlements and illegal settlers, is only "ethnic cleansing" if you support illegal activity.

and yes, Jews are not one single ethnic group. that is a silly claim.

Are you getting your information from the ethnic scholars at Stormfront now?

 

[Thunder]

Are you getting your information from the ethnic scholars at Stormfront now?

what next, suggesting I get my info from Loose Change and Prisonplanet?



Wildcat, you slay me.

 

[Thunder]

Keeping the darkies out in the wilderness, eh The Fool? Australia can't have those people around the white folk!

Apartheid in new shoes.

its racism to accuse Israel Australia of Apartheid.

 

[The Fool]

dup

 

[The Fool]

Amazing how resolute you are in defending the indefensible.

"The Alliances are working closely with communities and government to deliver better housing for Indigenous Australians in the NT" http://www.dhlgrs.nt.gov.au/housing/remotehousing/sihip

Keeping the darkies out in the wilderness, eh The Fool? Australia can't have those people around the white folk!

Apartheid in new shoes.

yes...those are the houses we are discussing. Nothing in that artyicle adds weight to your grubby little chants.....

is it your intention to shutdown this thread with a wave of pointless rasist chanting?

once again, you support the compulsory categorisation of citizens and the limiting of housing to those chosen categories. You seem to think this australian welfare program is simmilar? yet you can't find the words to express why....

maybe like Mycroft you would like to go on ignore for a while until you calm down and stay on topic?

 

[Thunder]

Keeping the darkies out in the wilderness, eh The Fool? Australia can't have those people around the white folk!

Apartheid in new shoes.

one would think you would support this, since you have no problem with Israeli rules and regs. that support Jews over Arabs.

 

[PhantomWolf]

one would think you would support this, since you have no problem with Israeli rules and regs. that support Jews over Arabs.

According to your own rules you are comparing Apples and Oranges, since you claim that Jews are not an ethnicity.

You might as well have said that certain rules support Christians over Indians.

 

[a_unique_person]

You said you were against Jews living in predominantly Arab neighborhoods.

And don't you think it's outrageous that Australia builds housing exclusively for Aboriginals? Why aren't you rushing off to start a thread abouit this outrage, modern-day "apartheid in new shoes"?

The housing is for people who choose to live on traditional lands. They are not constrained by any walls, and can choose to live anywhere they want. The problem is that they don't have an economic structure to support them. Moving traditional communities from hunter/gatherer type lifestyles to modern western democratic/capitalist type is a protracted process that has seen as many failures as successes. It's a process that both sides are learning from.

Australia did have a system that was arguably tending towards apartheid when the aborgininals did not even the vote in their own country. That problem was rectified in the 1960s.

There is an unofficial apartheid at work, which is not legally supported, with various outback towns having segregated housing and businesses.

 

[a_unique_person]

So apartheid housing is only acceptable when its for poor people and subsidized by the government.

There is no legal or physical barrier between them and us. It is where they choose to live. Many of the Palestinians living in Jerusalem are not citizens, but are only legally entitled to live there. That entitlement can be and has been removed, as part of the demographic war that is now in progress. Australian aboriginals have full citizenship.

 

[Thunder]

According to your own rules you are comparing Apples and Oranges, since you claim that Jews are not an ethnicity.

You might as well have said that certain rules support Christians over Indians.

you are right, I should have said "Jews over Muslims".

 

[WildCat]

yes...those are the houses we are discussing. Nothing in that artyicle adds weight to your grubby little chants.....

is it your intention to shutdown this thread with a wave of pointless rasist chanting?

once again, you support the compulsory categorisation of citizens and the limiting of housing to those chosen categories. You seem to think this australian welfare program is simmilar? yet you can't find the words to express why....

maybe like Mycroft you would like to go on ignore for a while until you calm down and stay on topic?

Dude, it said right in the quote that the housing was for "Indigenous Australians", and I don't think they mean anyone who was born there.

It's housing for persons of one race, aminority in fact. And it's being built far away from where white folk like you live. By your own criteria, this is a bantustan and apartheid.

In new shoes of course.

 

[WildCat]

There is no legal or physical barrier between them and us. It is where they choose to live.

Really? Were they offered housing in downtown Sydney and rejected it in favor of living in a jobless wasteland, or was the only housing for them being built in said wasteland?