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bruto said:
I am taking part, and I am theorizing. It's tough if my theories are not yours, but there it is. I theorize that your proposed method will not work, because the [whoeverthehelltheyarebutthey'renotofficiallyaliens] will not land upon request.
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Ahem.

I mentioned boobies above....
 
bruto said:
I am taking part, and I am theorizing. It's tough if my theories are not yours, but there it is. I theorize that your proposed method will not work, because the [whoeverthehelltheyarebutthey'renotofficiallyaliens] will not land upon request.
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"Upon invitation to Olympic Opening Ceremonies"...NOT a mere 'request'.
 
King of the Americas said:
"Upon invitation to Olympic Opening Ceremonies"...NOT a mere 'request'.
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Yet nobody has the slightest idea what language "they" might understand, whether they communicate with sounds or colors or frequencies of light or hand gestures. Interestingly enough, when asked to flesh out this silly game and specify how that might be done, the OP ignored it, yet continues to "correct" other people for attempting to indulge his/her whims even though they can't possibly know the rules of the game.
 
King of the Americas said:
I've seen them, with my own eyes. They exist. Getting them to do what I want when I want might well be an exercise in futility.

I can't get my cat to bring me a beer, that doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
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A cat tending bar is more likely than whateveryouwanttoattract.
 
King of the Americas said:
So, lets pretend for a moment that all the anecdotes ARE accurate, that history IS a depiction of gods descending from the heavens, and that this is what people are seeing when they witness a U.F.O. The debate is over they exist.

The question is how do we make contact, or otherwise 'invite' them back, so we can all meet face to face?

I propose we invite them to the opening ceremonies at the next Olympics. In my exuberant youth, I came to the conclusion that they would show up, just as soon as most of the world was looking at one place... Digitally speaking, we are almost capable of focusing global attention on a singular spot.

How else would one go about reaching out to them?

Does anyone know if the large pictograms worked out for the Nazca?

How should we, as the human race, reach out?
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You know, if aliens showed up, I think you could pretty well guarantee the whole world would be looking in one place.

What you seem to be proposing is that aliens are conceited attention whores and will only bother showing up if they can be assured of an audience.

Which makes it sound more like a Star Trek convention than a visitation by interstellar beings...
 
King, you keep criticizing us for not contributing useful suggestions to your thread, but I contend that much of what is happening here is, indeed, useful, even within your narrow requirements. Think about this for a moment, if the equipment is still in operating order.

Let us stipulate, for the moment, that your idea of what those [whatevertheyarethatatern'ttobecalledaliens] are is entirely correct. Let us stipulate further that your idea of holding a mass alien [whateveretc.] attraction event at the Olympics is a good one. It's a lot to choke down, but let's stipulate it. You are still faced with an enormous, monumental obstacle in completing your task: you must present a cogent, believable argument to someone other than yourself, in order to convince a powerful and highly resistant Olympic committee who must, in turn, attempt to convince a very large number of people, actually to do this thing!

You have yet to convince anyone here that these aliens [whateverthehelltheyares] exist, or that your scheme has merit. Our comments are quite to the point here, and directly address your plan, because if you cannot make a case you can never implement the plan.
 
Weak Kitten said:
I would think that any archeologist or paleontologist who found evidence of some ancient, super advanced race would immediately publish it for the world to see. Simple greed, you know, they would be set for life with book deals and their name forever associated with the find of a lifetime. The fact that such evidence has not been produced means it is most likely not there especially given how much we have been poking the remote corners of the world in search of oil. Someone would have found something by now if there was anything to be found.
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Graham Hancock's had a good stab at it, along with some others. But no, like you say, the work of alternative archaeologists is yet to go mainstream.
 
bruto said:
You are still faced with an enormous, monumental obstacle in completing your task: you must present a cogent, believable argument to someone other than yourself, in order to convince a powerful and highly resistant Olympic committee who must, in turn, attempt to convince a very large number of people, actually to do this thing!
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Considering this is something that even female ski jumpers have yet to achieve, KotA, good luck with that. ;)
 
BTMO said:
Electrify the chimney.
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That's an idea. It's an open question whether that will bother him though. Santa obviously has technology far in advance of us, being able to deliver presents at relativistic speeds and all, not to mention the impossible right angle turns and high g loads.
 
King of the Americas said:
I've seen them, with my own eyes. They exist. Getting them to do what I want when I want might well be an exercise in futility.
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And this is the main problem the way I see it.
You claim you have seen them, thousands of individual people claim they too have seen them. People have dedicated their lives to proving the existence of them.
But it's always done in a way which is doomed to failure (retrospective investigation, psuedo-science, religious tactics etc).
Instead of wasting people's time and money in an "exercise in futility", why not channel the money, time and effort into a real positive way to show that the 'aliens who we can't call aliens' are really zipping around in our skies and apparently appearing to individuals hundreds if not thousands of times a year... instead of suggesting yet another exercise in futility.
 
Hellbound said:
Surface-to-Air missiles.
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I subscribe to this idea, with the addition of air-to-air missiles. Dust off some AIR-2 Genies, or build new ones or just replace the conventional warheads of some AIM-54s by small nukes and there you go.

KotA offers himself as the bait and we pull the trigger. Heck, according to the anecdotes, flying saucers crash due to lightining and radar waves. Nukes would incinerate the frail vimanas piloted by the hungry antropophagic skydemons, liberating Earth from their claws.The universe would be free for mankind to start its own reign!
 
Stray Cat said:
...snip...Instead of wasting people's time and money in an "exercise in futility", why not channel the money, time and effort into a real positive way to show that the 'aliens who we can't call aliens' are really zipping around in our skies and apparently appearing to individuals hundreds if not thousands of times a year... instead of suggesting yet another exercise in futility.
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Uhm... I believe I suggested more than once a similar approach (quite cheap, by the way) to Rramjet, the "scientist". IIRC the best answer was something like "Because the results would be no saucers from beyond the borders of what we call nature around". This of course would ruin the day of the people who make money out of UFOlks.

Now I propose a hijack of KotA' thread, since he failed to demonstrate why we should try to make "them" land. Here it is:

So, lets pretend for a moment that all the anecdotes ARE accurate.
1. How could we get reliable data on the existence of UFOs?
2. Why UFOlogists either never attempted of failed to perform these tasks?

Hopefully some people will perceive some more issues with UFOlogy and UFOlogists' methods and proposals.
 
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Stray Cat said:
Pfftt... according to anecdotes they crash because of windmills.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7817378.stm

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Oh, well...

Maybe we should find a way to make them land to teach them how to fly, or sell them radars, collision avoidance gear, etc.

Bad idea. Given their flight peformance record, they would not land, they would crash. KotA would be known as the mentor of a mass slaughtery of aliens (Terran or non-Terran) if his idea works...
 
Sounds like a more productive premise to build a thread on.
But Star Wars (Revenge of the Sith) is just about to start on telly.
I'll be back later, with some ideas taken directly from George Lucas.
 
RoboTimbo said:
Lasers aimed at pilots is also a federal offense and pretty ****** stupid.
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I didn't realize our government made a law forbidding pointing lasers at alien pilots. Gotta reference? Oh, maybe you meant human pilots...well, if this is a massive effort , couldn't we get the local FAA to declare a temporary "No fly zone"? for our planes I mean. The aliens would hopefully not recognize our governments authority, since 911 proves some humans don't.
 
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