Why Hariri was killed

[UWdude]

BTW, I stopped reading here.

Have you ever read at least just one book on the Lebanese civil war? Just one? Seriously? do you have any idea what you are talking about? Have you ever even bothered to read the wikipedia article?

The ignorance here is astounding. I have no idea why you are laughing at historical fact.

Actually, has anybody on these boards ever even read a book, just one, on the Lebanese Civil war?

If so, I'd be interested in which one(s), because if anybody did, they sure did not give it any kind of close reading.

How can you all be so ignorant, and yet so sure of yourselves?

Please, for the love of God, at least, AT LEAST, read the wikipedia article. It's not very comprehensive, but AT LEAST it can give you all some semblance of an idea of what went on during those 10 - 13 years. I have a friend that lives in Lebanon (a Christian, so some of you might, *might* care if he were killed by an Israeli bomb), so Lebanon's history has been a source of interest for myself for years now.

Syria is Hezbollah's second largest supplier.

proof?

BTW, regarding definitions of state sponsors of terrorism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Pepes

Oh and by the way; Truther.

So what? Just because I am a truther doesn't mean that when I give historical facts to ignoramouses that it is wrong.

watch:

Woodrow Wilson was president during World War I.

Oh and by the way; Truther.

I guess I'm wrong. Tell us virus, who was the president during WW I? I can't be right, because I am a truther, so please, let us all know.


What I find even more incredible, is nobody is even trying to dispute what I said with any kind of historical counterpoint. (a laughing dog is has no factual bearing on the events of the Lebanese civil war). Some are speaking in unfounded generalities about the current situation, but does anybody have the background knowledge to at least come up with some kind of historical refutation of what I have stated about the history of the Lebanese civil war? I'd be more than willing to discuss why Israel was not in alliance with Syria (although you would still get quite an argument from me).

I mean you are all able to put in the effort to give your opinions, are any of you willing to put forth the effort to at least read a book, before giving your opinions? The Lebanese Civil War is one of the most complex civil wars in modern history, and Lebanon itself has a very complex history, and yet, the discussion here is being reduced to platitudes, complete inaccuracies based on little more than prejudices, and of course, the all time dismissal via truthera.

It actually would be a bonus if you all read a book that included both the colonial history and the history of the Civil War, since obviously, the two are closely tied together, before posting your silly opinions and laughing dogs.

I await an intellectual response.

 

[WildCat]

Have you ever read at least just one book on the Lebanese civil war? Just one? Seriously? do you have any idea what you are talking about? Have you ever even bothered to read the wikipedia article?

The ignorance here is astounding. I have no idea why you are laughing at historical fact.

Actually, has anybody on these boards ever even read a book, just one, on the Lebanese Civil war?

If so, I'd be interested in which one(s), because if anybody did, they sure did not give it any kind of close reading.

How can you all be so ignorant, and yet so sure of yourselves?

Please, for the love of God, at least, AT LEAST, read the wikipedia article. It's not very comprehensive, but AT LEAST it can give you all some semblance of an idea of what went on during those 10 - 13 years. I have a friend that lives in Lebanon (a Christian, so some of you might, *might* care if he were killed by an Israeli bomb), so Lebanon's history has been a source of interest for myself for years now.

None of this supports your claim that Syria and Israel were allies.

proof?

So you also deny that Syria and Iran arm, fund, and train Hizbullah?

Really?

So what? Just because I am a truther doesn't mean that when I give historical facts to ignoramouses that it is wrong.

I'm pretty sure it does. Truthers are pretty much wrong about everything.

Woodrow Wilson was president during World War I.

But you probably think he was REALLY controlled by the Jews/Bilderbergs/NWO/reptilians/whatever.

 

[UWdude]

That's true. And it saves a lot of time checking out their ridiculous stories, too.

yeah, screw all that readin' stuff. I'll just assume the world and history must be the opposite of whatever a truther sez.

So you also deny that Syria and Iran arm, fund, and train Hizbullah?
Really?

Nice strawman. Putting Iran in there.

I'm pretty sure it does. Truthers are pretty much wrong about everything.

Yeah, like woodrow wilson being president during WW I.

But you probably think he was REALLY controlled by the Jews/Bilderbergs/NWO/reptilians/whatever.

So um, wildcat, what books have you read on the Lebanese Civil war again?

 

[Toontown]

you are right. Israeli, Arab, Berber, and Persian culture is inferior.

Hypothetical:

You are to be expelled from the U.S. for Anti-Americanism (that's right, Palin got elected). The only countries that will take you are Israel and Iran.

Choose.

 

[Thunder]

Hypothetical:

You are to be expelled from the U.S. for Anti-Americanism (that's right, Palin got elected). The only countries that will take you are Israel and Iran.

Choose.

Israeli culture is superior to Iranian, as of this moment.

But compared to the USA and Western Europe, Israel is at the bottom of the barrel. Israel is truly and utterly inferior to these countries.

 

[Toontown]

yeah, screw all that readin' stuff. I'll just assume the world and history must be the opposite of whatever a truther sez.

I don't need to assume anything based on what a truther sez. That's the whole point. It's a time-saving strategy in a world constipated by information overload, much of it bogus.

 

[UWdude]

None of this supports your claim that Syria and Israel were allies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War

I was going to provide you with a direct quote, but then you would not read the whole article, and simply search for the quote to see that it was there. however, the wikipedia article agrees with me, and I'd rather you actually read the entire article, and then try to engage in debate, than simply skip to the portion that talks of Israel and Syria fighting on the same side. Because I really don't have time to debate the Lebanese civil war with someone who cant even be bothered to read the entire wikipedia article. And please don't just skim it, try to give it some thought.

So I provided the link, and I assure you, it is in there. Of course, you will probably cheat and still try to search your way to the actual section that deals with it, because you have proven yourself on this thread intellectually lazy. Plenty of time for opinions, but none for education or facts.

 

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by WildCat
So you also deny that Syria and Iran arm, fund, and train Hizbullah?
Really?

And the USA funded and equiped some Mujahadeen in Afghanistan, possibly including Osama bin Laden and/or his associates.

 

[UWdude]

I don't need to assume anything based on what a truther sez. That's the whole point. It's a time-saving strategy in a world constipated by information overload, much of it bogus.

well, let me know when you've read a book on the Lebanese civil war, ok? I doubt many of them were written by truthers, especially the ones written before 2001. Until then, you are just spouting baseless opinion.

 

[Toontown]

Israeli culture is superior to Iranian, as of this moment.

But compared to the USA and Western Europe, Israel is at the bottom of the barrel. Israel is truly and utterly inferior to these countries.

So you admit that all cultures are not equal, but not without hedging.

What was the purpose of the hedging? To maintain an attitude of moral superiority over Israel?

 

[Thunder]

So you admit that all cultures are not equal, but not without hedging.

I admit that Israeli culture is hopelessly and utterly inferior to the culture of Anglo-America and Western Europe.

 

[Toontown]

well, let me know when you've read a book on the Lebanese civil war, ok? I doubt many of them were written by truthers, especially the ones written before 2001. Until then, you are just spouting baseless opinion.

I was actually alive during the Lebanese civil war. I happen to know da Joos didn't start it. Muslims started it, for the avowed purpose of ethnically cleansing the Christians and taking all their stuff. The same way Muslims hoped to ethnically cleanse da Joos and take all their stuff.

And now, something tells me I will soon learn the nature of your agenda.

 

[geni]

And yet, in 220 years it hasn't happened. Maybe there's a reason for that?

Given the highly political nature of the LDS the Nauvoo Legion would be an example of it happening.

 

[geni]

Fine, you tell me why leftists support terrorists.

Because Nelson Mandela did have a fairly legitimate argument.

 

[UWdude]

And how, exactly, is knowing the complete history of Lebanon a prerequisite to participating in a thread about a U.N. report on the assassination of Hariri?

stay ignorant, dude. It fits you well.

 

[Tricky]

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[Virus]

So what's this book that claims Israel and Syria were allies during the Lebanese Civil War?

 

[WildCat]

Nice strawman. Putting Iran in there.

You don't think Syria arms, funds, and trains Hizbullah?

So um, wildcat, what books have you read on the Lebanese Civil war again?

You know, some of us are old enough to have read about it while it was happening.

Just summarize your justification for calling Syria and Israel "allies".

 

[Toontown]

stay ignorant, dude. It fits you well.

I will repeat the auditing question: How is knowing the complete history of Lebanon a prerequisite to participating in a thread about a U.N. investigation into the assassination of Hariri?

Will the results of the investigation be incomprehensible to me unless I know the complete history of Lebanon?

 

[WildCat]

I will repeat the auditing question: How is knowing the complete history of Lebanon a prerequisite to participating in a thread about a U.N. investigation into the assassination of Hariri?

Will the results of the investigation be incomprehensible to me unless I know the complete history of Lebanon?

If you know the REAL history, then you'll find that Hariri's assasination was plotted by Zionists as far back as the 1880s. Forcing Hizbullah to assasinate Hariri under orders from Iran is merely the centuries-long Zionist plot working as planned.