Merged Rep. Giffords Shot In Tucson

I've learned more about brain injuries the last few days than I ever knew before. Apparently you can survive a bullet to the brain if it only damages one hemisphere, and stays clear of the center of the brain. I guess this makes sense, I remember reading about people who had an entire hemisphere of the brain removed as a desperate attempt to stop seizures or something, who did survive the operation.
 
Thunder said:
honestly, since he considers himself to be a revolutionary nut, I expected him to proudly proclaim his victory against tyranny.

"yes, I did it. and I'd do it again. sig semper tyranus!!!"
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Sic semper tyrannus.

Loosely translated as "attack that large dinosaur". :D
 
Thunder said:
honestly, since he considers himself to be a revolutionary nut, I expected him to proudly proclaim his victory against tyranny.

"yes, I did it. and I'd do it again. sig semper tyranus!!!"
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Hey, I can conjecture too!

He's a severely mentally ill person who was into some schizo-crazy lucid dreaming stuff. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is convinced this is all a dream, and he's just waiting to wake up.
 
Biscuit said:
Politics just isn't a game. I do not know what Jared's politics are and I don't care to speculate. Regardless politicians are going to be natural targets and when we use phrases like "second amendment rights" and "reload" we encourage a stance of overt violence towards all elected leaders. We need to remove this level of anger and violent imagery.

It places everyone a greater risk as evidence by the individuals killed and injured for visiting their representative.

Take it from a gun owner with a concealed weapons permit. Guns do not make you cool or tough. They do make you better or your community better any more than owning a hammer would. They are both tools and one needs to be treated with much greater care than the other. Why should we not have laws that would prevent this kid from buying a handgun with multiple 30 round clips? Why does a 22 year old college drop out need that kind of tool? Who does need that kind of tool?
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It's a tool specifically designed to kill a large number of humans in close quarters. A rational society might limit the capacity of magazines sold to civilians. But this country would rather pander to the paranoid slippery slope fallacies of the gun lobby than enact rational laws regarding guns.
 
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WildCat said:
I've learned more about brain injuries the last few days than I ever knew before. Apparently you can survive a bullet to the brain if it only damages one hemisphere, and stays clear of the center of the brain. I guess this makes sense, I remember reading about people who had an entire hemisphere of the brain removed as a desperate attempt to stop seizures or something, who did survive the operation.
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I hope she gets through this and can live a decent-quality life.
 
Kestrel said:
It's a tool specifically designed to kill a large number of humans in close quarters. A rational society might limit the capacity of magazines sold to civilians. But this country would rather pander to the paranoid slippery slope fallacies of the gun lobby that enact rational laws regarding guns.
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Many see the freedom to own any weapon they desire as a limit to the power of government.

Trouble is, you get things just like this.

What was this guy doing except trying to limit the power of government?

What was McVeigh trying to do?

We can keep on as we have, but when such things happen, we should not be surprised at all.
 
Has anyone explained why Gifford subscribed to Loughner's youtube channel?
 
Kirsten Gillibrand, the junior US Senator from New York, credited the Daily Show's episode on First Responders to getting the bill passed.
With the two plus days those guys have had to work with this event, tonight's program just might be interesting, the way they put it together.
One hopes. :)
 
Rush Limbaugh starts any moment. I wonder if he'll blame liberals.

I wonder if the sun will rise in the East tomorrow.
 
Too bad she hasn't died yet. Maybe she still will so that President Jugears can really use it to his advantage.
 
TraneWreck said:
Frank Newgent said:
He's been re-elected seven times since becoming Pima County Sheriff in 1980.

I hope that answers your question.
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Yeah, I get that. I'm talking about the context of the interview.

Nothing he said was remotely partisan on its face until Kelly engages him on the issue. It was a good interview, so I'm not arguing about that.

I'm simply pointing out that the statement, "There was a lot of heated rhetoric down here and words have consequences," was taken as a partisan argument. I find that interesting and a little bit disturbing. He didn't say, "there was a lot of heated rhetoric from republicans." Why not interpret that as, "both sides need to calm down?"

Why would that make one side, but not the other, defensive in Arizona? In other words, if you knew nothing about the Sherrif's political affiliation, what about his statements would indicate that he was a democrat?
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Sorry. Didn't click on the interview so missed the context.

Far as the defensiveness of some concerning certain campaign rhetoric/"survey markers" it seems like this could be such an opportunity to, instead, take the high ground and acknowledge how such things might possibly have been misinterpreted and then express a genuine regret.

In other words take responsibility and show leadership. That would be impressive to many.

But there's way more money in keeping it divisive and selling books.
 
Glenn Beck today is spending most of his time playing past violent rhetoric quotes and allusions from people on the left.
 
BenBurch said:
He was a nutcase who kept going to her events and had met with her at her office... I think it needs no explanation that she would want to keep an eye on him.
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But why just him as opposed to the thousands of others she had met? She had only one other subscription, to Rep. Ike Skelton.

It just seems really weird.
 
Meadmaker said:
Rush Limbaugh starts any moment. I wonder if he'll blame liberals.

I wonder if the sun will rise in the East tomorrow.
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Not as much as I thought he would. He did go on a paranoid rant about how government bureaucrats have sealed plans in envelopes in their desks, waiting for an opportunity to break them out and take away our freedoms, and they'll try to use this as the opportunity.

No, that's not an exaggeration.
 
WildCat said:
But why just him as opposed to the thousands of others she had met? She had only one other subscription, to Rep. Ike Skelton.

It just seems really weird.
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With just two subscriptions she probably didn't spend a lot of time on YouTube.

Maybe an aide pointed out the weird guy who asked that really weird question has a YouTube channel?

(And then there's Loughner' channel. (Bah dum bum.))
 
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