Proof of Photomanipulation

Dave Rogers said:
I think you've labelled TA4 as TA3, because TA3 is hidden in this picture. Tell you what, if you draw what you think is the line of sight of the picture on the overhead shots, you can get an idea of what you ought to be able to see in the photograph and where it is. I'm not sure whether anyone's suggested this idea yet.

Dave
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We would be able to see the traffic arm.
 
Mobertermy said:
Well, anecdotally I sat down with an OCTer I trust and showed them the powerpoint....and they agreed with me that the photos are completely absurd.
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So, you've had one quick response on a single viewing, by someone who may have as poor an understanding of photographic interpretation as you, and you think that outweighs thorough analyses, by people who've discussed and considered your work in detail, that describe the exact errors you've made in fine detail?

Dave
 
Mobertermy said:
You claim that drawing a line of sight will falsify my theory, yet you refuse to demonstrate this. So it cuts both ways.

All I can say is that I've seen alot of talk from debunkers and pro-CITers that doing a line of sight will completely debunk me, and yet you all continue to not demonstrate this.
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Ok, here is a clumsy attempt (I have no nifty software, I do this with Paint):



In the foreground there is a lamppost (unnumbered), and next to it a box that I think is some kind of transformed. The lamppost aligns with the base of the TA in the background, and the transformer aligns with the center portion of the red-white arm. The end of the arm is just outside the picture.
I drew a dark-red and a purple line through these two feautures, and assumed, as a first approximation, that the camera maybe on one ear of the clover leaf.
From there, I also drew a line through the near pole of the overhead construction, and another through the right hand edge of the bush (both orange).
The left margin is not easily determined, bur lamppost 2 is outside of it. The margins are represented by the black lines of sight.
Having these lines of sight, I drew in the cab in pink, such that it is just covered by the overhead post, well clear of the bush, and sitting across the devider between the left and center southbound lanes.

This gets me the cab nearly on the bridge, and confirms that it is TA3 that we see next to it.

 
Mobertermy said:
Let's just say that I am hypothetically as dumb as you guys claim I am and can't competently do a line of sight as DGM suggests. On the other hand you guys claim that doing a line of sight will easily debunk me, and yet you guys adamantly refuse to do one - even though you claim it would prove me wrong. If you think doing a line of sight will prove me wrong...do one.
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It's not hypothetical. You apparently are that dumb, and the line of sight drawings have proven you wrong. It's crystal-clear. (you really remind one of certain Truthers who insist that jets didn't hit the WTC towers, even when confronted with mountains of evidence to the contrary. This kind of cognitive malfunction seems endemic to Truthers)

Welcome to the forums, drewid.
 
Mobertermy said:
Debunkers and CITers are everyone?

If debunkers agree with me that will prove a cover-up.

If CITers agree with me that will prove they are wrong.

In other words two groups disagree with me that have a strong incentive to.
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I'm not sure if you're aware of this but, other "truthers" have driven another big ass stake through CIT's heart. We finished with them a long time ago.

http://journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/Calibration of altimeter_92.pdf

You're "battling" a zombie!

:rolleyes:
 
Using the lane stripes to place Lloyd's cab, Evidence places it at the yellow location, Moberty wishes it to be the red location


overheadlloydlocations.jpg
 
A W Smith said:
Using the lane stripes to place Lloyd's cab, Evidence places it at the yellow location, Moberty wishes it to be the red location


[qimg]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm89/AWSmith1955/overheadlloydlocations.jpg[/qimg]
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Very good. And if it were at the red location, then 9/11 was an inside job?:D
 
Mobertermy said:
Let's just say that I am hypothetically as dumb as you guys claim I am and can't competently do a line of sight as DGM suggests. On the other hand you guys claim that doing a line of sight will easily debunk me, and yet you guys adamantly refuse to do one - even though you claim it would prove me wrong. If you think doing a line of sight will prove me wrong...do one.
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OKAY
Using your own pole #112 counterpoint in your presentation, which is located on the east side north end of the bridge, Lets draw a line from pole 112 across gate 36 and see what happens, We know for a fact Lloyds cab falls north of this line by viewing the photos I've posted in this thread,




Pentagon_Lamppost_L-1.jpg
pole112togate36.jpg
 
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