Gaza - A 5 Star Concentration Camp *****

[Thunder]

What does that have to do anything? Why is that cherry-picked metric important?

the border between the USA and Mexico is being compared to the border between Israel and Gaza.

I am simply pointing out the incredible differences between these two borders, and how an analogy is kinda stupid. the only thing they have in common is that they have an independent state on one or more sides, and people and vehicles wish to move through them. that's about it.

sorry. there is no reason to get angry.

 

[WildCat]

the border between the USA and Mexico is being compared to the border between Israel and Gaza.

No, it wasn't.

We were actually discussing the absurd comparison of Gaza to a concentration camp.

And it's funny that you are here pushing for the Godwin position.

 

[Thunder]

No, it wasn't.

ehhh...it kinda was.

Originally Posted by mortimer
Is Mexico also a concentration camp because the US doesn't allow free movement across their border?

 

[mortimer]

when is the last time the USA suspended ALL crossing of Mexicans into the USA?

I don't know.

So it is the fact that, back in 2006, the border crossings into Israel were sometimes closed that makes Gaza a concentration camp?

 

[Thunder]

I don't know.

So it is the fact that, back in 2006, the border crossings into Israel were sometimes closed that makes Gaza a concentration camp?

this makes Gaza like one big concentration camp:

Throughout 2006, the Karni crossing remained only partially operational, costing Palestinians losses of $500,000 a day, as less than 10% of the Gaza Strip's minimal daily export targets were achieved. Basic food commodities were severely depleted, bakeries closed and food rationing was introduced.[27]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip#2005_Agreement_on_Movement_and_Access

now, is Gaza literally a concentration camp? of course not. its not a camp..its a large territory.

but is it similar to and like a concentration camp? certainly.

 

[mortimer]

this makes Gaza like one big concentration camp:

Throughout 2006, the Karni crossing remained only partially operational, costing Palestinians losses of $500,000 a day, as less than 10% of the Gaza Strip's minimal daily export targets were achieved. Basic food commodities were severely depleted, bakeries closed and food rationing was introduced.[27]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip#2005_Agreement_on_Movement_and_Access

now, is Gaza literally a concentration camp? of course not. its not a camp..its a large territory.

but is it similar to and like a concentration camp? certainly.

Just to be clear, you believe Gaza is similar to a concentration camp because a border crossing was partially closed several years ago?

A crossing on the US-Mexico border has been shut down since 9/11. Does that make Mexico twice as similar to a concentration camp as Gaza?

 

[Thunder]

A crossing on the US-Mexico border has been shut down since 9/11. Does that make Mexico twice as similar to a concentration camp as Gaza?

so, we ARE talking about the US-Mexico border crossing? I just wanted this to be clear to Wildcat.

but yes, if Israel closed the border with Gaza and severely reduced their import of civilian necessities, forcing rationing..then yes...I am comparing Gaza to a concentration camp.

 

[bigjelmapro]

translation:

drivel= "opinions, facts, ideas, evidence, that I do not like."

Did you finally learn what a strawman fallacy is then? Good.

Moving on.

 

[Bishadi]

We were actually discussing the absurd comparison of Gaza to a concentration camp.

it seems thnders provided an encyclopedia definition of a concentration camp, and GAZA fits that desciption of the words (term) of concentration camp.

i am finding that the right wingers dont like the comparison because then it means, a cruelty is involved and that the label of bigot and nazi appears to fit the very people, who are defending the right wingers.

Gaza is a concentration camp, and some dont like the idea that what they believe could be wrong!

if you read this thread, you will find there was actually a person posting as if they represent the wingnuts team of bigots.

And it's funny that you are here pushing for the Godwin position.

god does win! Knowing, that god is mother nature; our creator!




but hitler has nothing to do with gaza, other than showing the bigots how it works.

 

[Bishadi]

You're the one that claims that Gazans are being held in Gaza against their will. It's your claim, so prove it or retract.

that is like asking if the jewish folk within the ww2 death camps, enjoyed taking showers, knowing they would not be using any soap.

 

[Thunder]

A crossing on the US-Mexico border has been shut down since 9/11. Does that make Mexico twice as similar to a concentration camp as Gaza?

is this border crossing the one and only way Mexicans have to get to the USA?

no..it is not.

try again.

 

[DC]

it seems thnders provided an encyclopedia definition of a concentration camp, and GAZA fits that desciption of the words (term) of concentration camp.

i am finding that the right wingers dont like the comparison because then it means, a cruelty is involved and that the label of bigot and nazi appears to fit the very people, who are defending the right wingers.

Gaza is a concentration camp, and some dont like the idea that what they believe could be wrong!

if you read this thread, you will find there was actually a person posting as if they represent the wingnuts team of bigots.



god does win! Knowing, that god is mother nature; our creator!




but hitler has nothing to do with gaza, other than showing the bigots how it works.

you fail again.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

that is like asking if the jewish folk within the ww2 death camps, enjoyed taking showers, knowing they would not be using any soap.

So, no evidence then?

 

[mortimer]

is this border crossing the one and only way Mexicans have to get to the USA?

no..it is not.

try again.

You do realize that there is more than one crossing into Gaza as well?

 

[Thunder]

You do realize that there is more than one crossing into Gaza as well?

 

[mortimer]

I know. I was totally shocked to find that, by your criteria, Mexico is like a concentration camp.

 

[Thunder]

I know. I was totally shocked to find that, by your criteria, Mexico is like a concentration camp.

no its not.

 

[bigjelmapro]

no its not.

Yes it is. Usually what happens with the application of such generalized definitions.

 

[Thunder]

Yes it is.

actually no...its not.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

It is also worth remembering that the American Army is occupying Mexican territories, which it has for many years been flooding with non-Mexicans.

http://www.emersonkent.com/images/mexico_1786.jpg

What happens when Mexican civilians try to cross the wall to live in the portion of their land that happens to be on the other side, buried under American cities settlements? They are arrested and thrown out.