Proof of Photomanipulation

A W Smith said:
yeah I saw that too LOL. Lloyds cab is right at the south end of the bridge span, Theres an acceleration lane that blends into the traffic lane on the bridge itself, Its really wide alongside Lloyds cab, And Lloyds cab is into the center lane, You take a telephoto shot north and you wont see the stone wall behind the tree that's top was clipped by flight 77, just the steel armco rail. And there's so many of those gates he's lost. There is a gate every hundred feet in that HOV barrier alone. Not including the other barrier with gates on 100 foot centers the east wall of the HOV lane.
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It's a bit sad. I bet he spent a lot of time on that presentation.
 
DGM said:
It's a bit sad. I bet he spent a lot of time on that presentation.
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Might as well put the nail in the coffin, The yellow ruler denotes the gate mechanism spacing, You can not see the gates themselves, But in street view you can, Its all quite obvious where the confusion came from. too many darn gates!! alot more than "THREE"

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A W Smith said:
Go back to 1999 or 2002 for hi res and you can see a whole row of gate mechanisms buried in the wide concrete median about every 100 feet, Llloyds cab is about 80 feet north of the sign catenary
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OK, first of all I had to look up that word "catenary" - and as far as I can tell they are overhead wires for trains and such...so I have no idea why you insist on misusing a word nobody knows. Just call it what it is...a overhead sign.

Second, how in the hell do you figure the cab is 80 ft. north of the overhead sign?
 
A W Smith said:
Might as well put the nail in the coffin, The yellow ruler denotes the gate mechanism spacing, You can not see the gates themselves, But in street view you can, Its all quite obvious where the confusion came from. too many darn gates!! alot more than "THREE"

[qimg]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm89/AWSmith1955/lloydscab.jpg[/qimg]
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You are honestly trying to tell me the cab is 80 ft north of the overhead sign? Look at the picture in post #245...that's 80 ft. away from the overhead sign?
 
Mobertermy said:
You are honestly trying to tell me the cab is 80 ft north of the overhead sign? Look at the picture in post #245...that's 80 ft. away from the overhead sign?
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It's not wise to try to determine distance (in a 2d photo) like you are. Your guessing.

Draw a line of sight through ALL of the available pictures onto an overhead view. You will find the cab is around ~80 feet north of the sign just south of the southern most boundary of the bridge.
 
Kid Eager said:
The only difference is, I *know* I'm guessing.... :)
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Thanks for your educated guess. I agree with it. Telephoto lens would be impossible for location (2) anyway - behind the view is just a wall and a hill.

btw, a huge shout-out to the google alchemists who provide us with those amazing tools for free. Until now i wasn't aware of the history feature.

Carry on.
 
A W Smith said:
Might as well put the nail in the coffin, The yellow ruler denotes the gate mechanism spacing, You can not see the gates themselves, But in street view you can, Its all quite obvious where the confusion came from. too many darn gates!! alot more than "THREE"

[qimg]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm89/AWSmith1955/lloydscab.jpg[/qimg]
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Actually, you can. They're in their lowered position (ETA: Well, that first one might not be). They're the white lines piercing the HOV lane.
 
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Thanks A W - as if another nail was needed in mobertermy's coffin, his whole nonsense idea was debunked after a few posts, and has merely staggered around as a zombie since.

The following statement is still one of the most foolish and still a great illustration of the way Truthers get it ever so wrong - 'anyone can look at photo #3 and see that TA3 is unambiguously blocking the lane the cab is in':eye-poppi
 
Mobertermy said:
Damn, I never even noticed that. The guy who was taking a picture was walking down a hill so it is possible he was just in a new location...so I'm not sure their abscence means anything, but if you figure anything out about them let me know.
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The black poles populate the parking lots of the navy annex way over by Columbia pike, That should give you an indication of how severe the effect lenses have on the depth perception in two dimensional photographs,

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Mobertermy said:
OK, first of all I had to look up that word "catenary" - and as far as I can tell they are overhead wires for trains and such...so I have no idea why you insist on misusing a word nobody knows. Just call it what it is...a overhead sign.

Second, how in the hell do you figure the cab is 80 ft. north of the overhead sign?
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You had to look up "catenary"?????? The train wires get their name from such structures not vice versa.
 

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because thats where it is in all the pictures. You keep mistaking the TA beside the cab T3 for the one beside the overhead sign catenary. Look at google earth!
 
Childlike Empress said:
Thanks for your educated guess. I agree with it. Telephoto lens would be impossible for location (2) anyway - behind the view is just a wall and a hill.

btw, a huge shout-out to the google alchemists who provide us with those amazing tools for free. Until now i wasn't aware of the history feature.

Carry on.
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Impossible......LOL please show us the line of site that makes it impossible, we'll wait.

curious, have you ever owned a camera with a long (say 200mm) lens?
 
sheeplesnshills said:
Impossible......LOL please show us the line of site that makes it impossible, we'll wait.

curious, have you ever owned a camera with a long (say 200mm) lens?
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I believe the OP is referring to a different location altogether, not the location in the photo.
 
btw, a huge shout-out to the google alchemists who provide us with those amazing tools for free. Until now i wasn't aware of the history feature.

Carry on.
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Yes its helped me debunk lots of truther nonsense over the last year or two. Its especially useful to show how CIT play their games.
 
Kid Eager said:
I believe the OP is referring to a different location altogether, not the location in the photo.
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Yes, this was just something i've spontaneously thrown into the room, for dissection and reference - and in reply to sheeplesnshills' incorrect posts. He has a problem with cognitive dissonance.
 
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