2nd Open Chemical Physics Editor in Chief Resigns

[R.Mackey]

The thing I find funny / pathetic about this whole episode is this:

For years now (yes, years) anyone with even a modicum of science or attention span has known this paper is total crap. There's been about 500 pages of discussion on this Forum alone, and dozens of reasons why it's nonsense. There's been no serious attempt at replication of results. It's an absolute cipher and has been all along.

But now, it's another Truther whose noticed the glaring faults in it. So now, all of a sudden, the other Truthers are finally wising up.

I don't know which is worse -- the inherent narcissism of Truthers as a whole, or the fact that it took them this long to understand the paper's flaws even after we've literally shoved it up their noses.

 

[Orphia Nay]

"...in no way do i agree with its conclusions. In fact i do not even know how the paper's peer reviewing was handled - or if it was reviewed at all. The journal never wanted to disclosed this matter to me...What may be even worse - noone seems to be at the helm of this Journal. Months ago -simply after becoming acquainted with the article you mention, its possible misshandling, etc- i submitted my immediate resignation as editor to the open chemical physics journal."

http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/

Thats not only the 2nd Editor in Chief, but #5 total of people resigning from Bentham due to their non standards.

1. Lucio Frydman
2. Marie Paule Pileni
3.Bambang Parmanto
4. Marc Williams
5. John Furedy

Link to the blog post in question, for posterity's sake:
http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/2010/11/editor-in-chief-resigned-over-harrit-et.html

Could some kind person post links to the other editors' resignation announcements?

I note that Frydman has objected (with good reason) to his private email being published. While it may be embarrassing for him to have been associated with the journal, he has done a good thing by resigning, and the news of said resignation benefits the scientific community.

 

[grandmastershek]

Link to the blog post in question, for posterity's sake:
http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/2010/11/editor-in-chief-resigned-over-harrit-et.html

Could some kind person post links to the other editors' resignation announcements?

I note that Frydman has objected (with good reason) to his private email being published. While it may be embarrassing for him to have been associated with the journal, he has done a good thing by resigning, and the news of said resignation benefits the scientific community.

The only reputable source I know of is a danish newspaper:

http://videnskab.dk/content/dk/naturvidenskab/chefredaktor_skrider_efter_kontroversiel_artikel_om_911

The rest are 9/11 blogger's articles who claim that Marie Pileni Paule was lying about not being an expert because since nanothermite is explosive (cuz Jones says so) she must be lying.

 

[Brainster]

The only reputable source I know of is a danish newspaper:

http://videnskab.dk/content/dk/naturvidenskab/chefredaktor_skrider_efter_kontroversiel_artikel_om_911

The rest are 9/11 blogger's articles who claim that Marie Pileni Paule was lying about not being an expert because since nanothermite is explosive (cuz Jones says so) she must be lying.

Translation from the Danish by one of our commenters here.

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

Just for the record, one of the two swedes on the editorial advisory board also resigned when I asked him about the publishing of Harrits paper (I couldn't get in touch with the other swede). According to videnskap.dk, same did Harrits superior at the University, Nils O. Andersen who was on the same board (although he says it had nothing to do with Harrits paper).

But do I understand it correctly, that people mentioned as authors of the paper, were also peer-reviewing them?

 

[Edx]

bump.

Whats the earliest date we have for involvement from Grisom in the truth movement and a source if possible?

Also what date was the nano thermite paper published in Bentham?

 

[MikeW]

Whats the earliest date we have for involvement from Grisom in the truth movement and a source if possible?

He has a blog piece on January 2007 at http://impactglassman.blogspot.com/2007/01/hand-waving-physics-of-911.html

 

[grandmastershek]

bump.

Whats the earliest date we have for involvement from Grisom in the truth movement and a source if possible?

Also what date was the nano thermite paper published in Bentham?

He also has a letter in the Jo911S from 2/07. The NT paper was "published" in April of 09 IIRC. A dip on youtube recently tried to tell me that Gris became a truther after reviewing the paper. I of course pointed out Jones was still collecting samples up to 11/07 after Gris was first featured in Jones' "journal". Make it up as you go I guess. He has has been dancing around the fact that the Bentham peer review process was negligible at best.

 

[Edx]

Guess what a truther replied to on this youtube video with. The first underlined part is a quote from my comment.

Its amazing how that guy can just lie so easily, but I do wonder if even the claim that Griscom didn't mention thermite before the 911 paper was published is true. Anyone know?

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Guess what a truther replied to on this youtube video with. The first underlined part is a quote from my comment.

[qimg]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4688/sexymelongriscom.png[/qimg]

Its amazing how that guy can just lie so easily, but I do wonder if even the claim that Griscom didn't mention thermite before the 911 paper was published is true. Anyone know?

Damn, I can't reply to that video: You have been blocked by the owner of this video.

I wanted to say: "Wow, you were right TheSkepticalIdealist, Sexy Melon is a liar. Keep making him dodge your facts & evidence. The more you do it, the more he/she will squeal."

 

[MikeW]

Its amazing how that guy can just lie so easily, but I do wonder if even the claim that Griscom didn't mention thermite before the 911 paper was published is true. Anyone know?

Griscom's 2007 piece contains this:

But there IS one way that all 250 some columns could have lost all strength simultaneously. It's called CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

David Ray Griffin has web-published a splendid, highly footnoted account of “The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True”:

http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html#multipleevidence

This scholarly work, rich in eyewitness accounts, includes 11 separate pieces of evidence that the World Trade Center towers 1, 2, and 7 were brought down by explosives.
http://impactglassman.blogspot.com/2007/01/hand-waving-physics-of-911.html

It doesn't specifically reference thermite, but it's clear that he's ready to accept the idea.

 

[grandmastershek]

Guess what a truther replied to on this youtube video with. The first underlined part is a quote from my comment.

[qimg]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4688/sexymelongriscom.png[/qimg]

Its amazing how that guy can just lie so easily, but I do wonder if even the claim that Griscom didn't mention thermite before the 911 paper was published is true. Anyone know?

Melon is a plain liar.

A dip [Sexy Melon] on youtube recently tried to tell me that Gris became a truther after reviewing the paper. I of course pointed out Jones was still collecting samples up to 11/07 after Gris was first featured in Jones' "journal". Make it up as you go I guess. He has has been dancing around the fact that the Bentham peer review process was negligible at best.

 

[grandmastershek]

A good approach might be to ask Melon if nanothermite is an explosive. I am pretty sure I have seen him say as such; in fact I know he does because he told me the spike in Jones's calorimetry was evidence it is and then I showed him another spike from another study of regular thermite and he just pissed and moaned that he couldn't get access to the whole article even though I provided the citation. Point being, in Gris's Jo9/11S article he supports the demo by explosive hypothesis. If Melon was a rational person he would either have to abandon that NT is an explosive or concede that he was biased ahead of time. But as I am sure cognitive dissonance will kick in, and he will do the cha cha of twoof.

Not to mention Griscom is acknowledged in said paper on none other than alleged nanothermite. Get ready for some hoop jumping!