2nd Open Chemical Physics Editor in Chief Resigns

[grandmastershek]

"...in no way do i agree with its conclusions. In fact i do not even know how the paper's peer reviewing was handled - or if it was reviewed at all. The journal never wanted to disclosed this matter to me...What may be even worse - noone seems to be at the helm of this Journal. Months ago -simply after becoming acquainted with the article you mention, its possible misshandling, etc- i submitted my immediate resignation as editor to the open chemical physics journal."

http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/

Thats not only the 2nd Editor in Chief, but #5 total of people resigning from Bentham due to their non standards.

1. Lucio Frydman
2. Marie Paule Pileni
3.Bambang Parmanto
4. Marc Williams
5. John Furedy

 

[The Big Dog]

Jonesy admitted in the last couple of weeks that one of the "peer reviewers" was a noted truther wackamole and all around crack pot David L. Griscom of the "passengers were in on it" theory.

hilarious! That article was so incompetent, it actually killed the freaking Journal.

 

[grandmastershek]

Jonesy admitted in the last couple of weeks that one of the "peer reviewers" was a noted truther wackamole and all around crack pot David L. Griscom of the "passengers were in on it" theory.

hilarious! That article was so incompetent, it actually killed the freaking Journal.

Actually Jones states on blogger that he had no idea of Griscom's involvement in the "movement" in spite of Gris being "published" in the J.O.N.E.S.

 

[The Big Dog]

Actually Jones states on blogger that he had no idea of Griscom's involvement in the "movement" in spite of Gris being "published" in the J.O.N.E.S.

Hee hee! Really?

WOW.

 

[grandmastershek]

Hee hee! Really?

WOW.

Had to reread it, but its not exactly what he said.

"I wish to extend a warm welcome to Prof. Griscom to the 9/11 truth-seeking community, as he speaks out in his blog."
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-02/peer-reviewer-active-thermitic-materials-paper-identifies-himself-great

Why welcome someone if you know they are already involved?

http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/e/hand-waving-the%20physics-of-911-by-david-griscom.pdf

Someone on blogger called him out as to whether or not Jones suggested Griscom as a reviewer and he dodged it. After further prodding Jones got quite indignant, especially after the poster pointed out that they listed Griscom in the acknowledgements of the paper.

 

[The Big Dog]

Someone on blogger called him out as to whether or not Jones suggested Griscom as a reviewer and he dodged it. After further prodding Jones got quite indignant, especially after the poster pointed out that they listed Griscom in the acknowledgements of the paper.

Jones is pathological. He previously admitted that he gave a list of proposed peer reviewers to the late great Bentham Open Journal.

Given the list of acknowledgments, I have to assume that Mark Brasile was the second "peer reviewer."

 

[Oystein]

...

Why welcome someone if you know they are already involved?

http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/e/hand-waving-the%20physics-of-911-by-david-griscom.pdf

...

hahaha!
From that letter by Griscom on JONES (his own bolding!):

Mercifully, we normally publish in refereed journals, where some of our inevitable mistakes are caught by anonymous peer reviewers prior to publication. Nevertheless, referees tend to be too busy to catch every error, so mistakes can still leak into print. I have made a horrendous number of mistakes in the process of publishing the 108 papers that I wrote fully myself. I know this because I’ve caught virtually all of them myself by double-, triple-, and quadruple-checking my data, logic, and mathematics before allowing my manuscripts to go to press.

Anonymous peer reviewers - anonymous to whom??

 

[Josarhus]

Jones is pathological. He previously admitted that he gave a list of proposed peer reviewers to the late great Bentham Open Journal.

Given the list of acknowledgments, I have to assume that Mark Brasile was the second "peer reviewer."

That might be spot on!

I have asked one of Harrits fellow truthers here in Denmark, whom the two reviewers were and after several attempts he listed Mark Basile and Jeffrey Farrer as the two reviewers.

It’s unclear why he mentions these two, either that was his best answer, since Harrit is keeping it a secret, not only from the public, but also from his friends in the truth movement, or he actually knows something on this matter.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I have asked one of Harrits fellow truthers here in Denmark, whom the two reviewers were and after several attempts he listed Mark Basile and Jeffrey Farrer as the two reviewers.

Hang on a moment. Is there a typo in there, or are you suggesting that Jeffrey Farrer was both an author and a peer reviewer of the paper?

If so, that's the most flagrant abuse of the peer review process possible.

Dave

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Hang on a moment. Is there a typo in there, or are you suggesting that Jeffrey Farrer was both an author and a peer reviewer of the paper?

If so, that's the most flagrant abuse of the peer review process possible.

Dave

Agreed. If this is true - note: Conditional statement - then that's just insane. That would go beyond abuse into outright deception about the trustworthiness of the publication process (not that there's not already ample evidence denigrating that already , evidence completely independent of this issue).

I would love to hear if there's any confirmation or refutation of this. It's necessary to know more before passing judgement on this specific issue.

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ETA: Oh, BTW, I did notice that this was not directly from Harrit himself, but from "one of Harrits fellow truthers...". So to be fair, I do want to temper my post with the acknowledgement that this is currently hearsay. Again, we simply need to know more. But that said, the fact that this consideration is even possible, given what we already know of Bentham's practices, that speaks ill of Bentham's reputation, as well as the decisionmaking behind publishing that work with them.

 

[R.Mackey]

Hang on a moment. Is there a typo in there, or are you suggesting that Jeffrey Farrer was both an author and a peer reviewer of the paper?

If so, that's the most flagrant abuse of the peer review process possible.

Dave

... and both David Griscom and Mark Basile, while not co-authors, are acknowledged in the paper.

Griscom's name alone destroys Bentham's credibility forever. Waiting for confirmation of the other two to see if we have a trifecta of fail.

 

[Josarhus]

Hang on a moment. Is there a typo in there, or are you suggesting that Jeffrey Farrer was both an author and a peer reviewer of the paper?

If so, that's the most flagrant abuse of the peer review process possible.

Dave

I think that he finally realised what implications his “information” would do to Harrits paper and firstly he tried to dodge further questions by implying that any scholar who have read the paper and who endorse it is a peer reviewer, and that was why he mentioned Basile and Farrer.

I asked if scholars who have read the paper and who do not endorse it could be considered a peer reviewer, and apparently he thinks that ONLY scholars who agree with the paper can be considered peer reviewers.

After that he disappeared from the debate.

He is from Harrits inner circle in the Danish truth movement.

 

[Oystein]

.... and apparently he thinks that ONLY scholars who agree with the paper can be considered peer reviewers.

After that he disappeared from the debate.

He is from Harrits inner circle in the Danish truth movement.

Who is "he"? Got a name?

 

[beachnut]

David L Griscom? He makes up moronic conspiracies, no wonder he was fooled by Jones' fake paper. http://impactglassman.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-07%3A00&updated-max=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=3

 

[Edx]

That blog is interesting, he says he thinks the Truth Movement are a good thing, but then argues against all the demolition theories. I would say he is a truther on the way out the door

 

[Dave Rogers]

That blog is interesting, he says he thinks the Truth Movement are a good thing, but then argues against all the demolition theories. I would say he is a truther on the way out the door

You may also have noticed that he was rude enough to publish Frydman's private e-mail to him, and not only to refuse when asked to remove it, but to publish Frydman's request. He may be having his doubts, but he certainly hasn't departed from the usual truther level of misplaced arrogance.

Dave

 

[Edx]

You may also have noticed that he was rude enough to publish Frydman's private e-mail to him, and not only to refuse when asked to remove it, but to publish Frydman's request. He may be having his doubts, but he certainly hasn't departed from the usual truther level of misplaced arrogance.

Dave

Yea, well I put a comment on his blog and I'll see what he says.

He also still believes WTC7 was a demolition, but it was interesting to hear the debate/discussion between him and Barrett.

I may have been too optimistic about him being on the way out, I guess he could just stay in this middle ground.

 

[Brainster]

Actually Jones states on blogger that he had no idea of Griscom's involvement in the "movement" in spite of Gris being "published" in the J.O.N.E.S.

And of course in spite of Jones pimping Griscom and his "paper" a few years ago:

 

[Dave Rogers]

And of course in spite of Jones pimping Griscom and his "paper" a few years ago:

Gosh, you're not suggesting that Steven Jones lied about not knowing Griscom was a truther, are you? How shocking!

Dave

 

[grandmastershek]

And of course in spite of Jones pimping Griscom and his "paper" a few years ago:

ROFLMAO!!!!

What a lying d-bag.