Gaza - A 5 Star Concentration Camp *****

[IDB87]

I don't know, after reading about the experiments the Nazis did, in "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", I truly do believe that the Nazis have a special place in hell, one that will not be visited by other folks.

It is quite possible to make a comparison to Nazism even if there is no evidence of state sponsored experiments of the kind you reference. You don't have to have one in order to have the other.

Can you see Iran conducting experiments like the ones you referenced? Maybe not.

BUT:

Can you see Iran conducting their own Night of the Long Knives?

You can go down the list of things the Nazis did and match them up to things Iran has done or things you can see them doing.

 

[Thunder]

It is quite possible to make a comparison to Nazism even if there is no evidence of state sponsored experiments of the kind you reference. You don't have to have one in order to have the other.

for me, the key to a fair comparison with the Nazis, is if the other regime committed a mass genocide using modern industrial methods.

the Rwandans committed mass genocide over a few months, killing minority ethnic groups at a much higher rate than the Nazis, using guns and machetes. and yet, folks don't accuse Iran or Hamas of being like the Rwandans.

 

[Bishadi]

Straw man.

you doubted the event, i proved it. And the reason, is the same one; bigots think they have a right to palestine.

The first thing that comes to mind in many people when the words concentration camp are mentioned is the Nazi concentration camp.

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i see on the TV and news, that people are being held within a boundary, fenced in by a group of people that took over their land, homes and freedom.
They are being held within a concentration camp, called GAZA!

People bringing aid, are shot and killed.

I know what you meant by concentration camps.

if so, then GAZA is one!

Because BT'selem and other organisations would declare Gaza to be a concentration camp if that were the case.

'we the people' are doing just that!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bishadi]

for me, the key to a fair comparison with the Nazis, is if the other regime committed a mass genocide using modern industrial methods.

Israel Launches Phosphorus Weapons Probe Amid Cries of ‘War Crimes'

By Noah Shachtman January 22, 2009
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/01/israel-launches/

For almost 70yrs the atrocities have been ongoing. ie... how long as gaza (concentration camp) been fenced in.

Then in 09' ISrael shells civilians with phosphorus showers Fresh evidence of Israeli phosphorus use in Gaza emerges http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/israel-gaza-phosphorus-civilians

watch the video?

Then wonder how much, we dont get to see!

the Rwandans committed mass genocide over a few months, killing minority ethnic groups at a much higher rate than the Nazis, using guns and machetes. and yet, folks don't accuse Iran or Hamas of being like the Rwandans.

Probably found another diamond mine in East Africa./


heck, look at what them diamond mines caused in SA and for over half a century.

The thread is on the concentration camp, Gaza and how a country is allowed to fence people in.

 

[Bishadi]

Ya, I just finished reading the wiki article on Auschwitz...the comparison is retarded

auschwitz is not gaza. I wasnt alive during the switch. Just here during that stinky part of the concentration camp usage by big its.

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gaza is a modern day quackery of religious monarchy. The big its, are holding the little its, in a concentration camp.


wichever it, is doing it, is irrelevant

not good.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

you doubted the event, i proved it. And the reason, is the same one; bigots think they have a right to palestine.

non-sequitur.

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How so?

i see on the TV and news, that people are being held within a boundary, fenced in by a group of people that took over their land, homes and freedom. They are being held within a concentration camp, called GAZA!

Gaza is not a concentration camp. Calling it so is an insult to the millions of victims of Nazism.

People bringing aid, are shot and killed.

Em, no. There was the Gaza flotilla, but that's opening another can of worms there. And show evidence that the IDF has a kill on sight policy for every single aid supply into Gaza.

if so, then GAZA is one!

Oh for ****'s sake. How many palestinians are being worked to death as slave labour for Israel? How much palestinian fat was turned into soap? How many Palestinians have been killed in grotesque experiments? How many palestinians were skinned for lampshades

'we the people' are doing just that!!!!!!!!!

name ONE report from B'Tselem that declared that ALL of Gaza had conditions reminiscent of a Nazi concentration camp.

 

[WildCat]

jews were the majority of the 60-70million killed in ww2?

Part of reading with comprehension is taking the context into account.

a_u_p is clearly talking about people killed in death/concentration camps.

 

[Bishadi]

Stop butchering the term Concentration Camp.

when you stop requiring bigots to make lamp shades out of palestinians.

concession accepted on grounds of refusing to provide evidence.

evidence provided. You ask for all aid to be proven as targets; moving the goal posts.

I'm sure the people in Auschwitz and Dachau would disagree with that statement.

wanna bet?

they dead. No mo disagreement!

Your butchering of the term Concentration camp is insulting to the millions of people who died in the Holocaust.

which holocaust?

Rwanda? palestine?

60-70 million died in ww2, which minority are you ranting about?

I'm not from Palestine, and i was merely pointing out that if all of Gaza were a concentration camp in the Nazi sense of the word, then most of what i described would be happening.

you apparently like the nazi method of dealing with people. I dont.

We are different.

Gaza is still a concentration camp.

So why should B'Tselem's word on Palestinian matters, which happens to be their specialty, not matter?

because for almost half a century, the gaza concentration camp is still existing. I guess you cant trust an israeli to do a man's job.

Who is this "we the people"?

the ones capable of compassionate awareness and dont believe that YOU dont get a lampshade of palestinians, to validate the gaza concentration camp.

Gaza isn't a concentration camp because not only are the above horrors not happening, but because they are not subject to indefinite imprisonment and there are no walls.

the horror of this thread is denial. You deny that israel maintaining gaza as a concentration camp is horrid and are defending the bigotry as normal.

that be the horror of this thread!!!!!!


p/s...... no one gets close to the walls. The head bangers require everyone to wear a beenie, just to watch the head bangers pounding their head against the wall.

 

[Stout]

aushiitz is not gaza. I wasnt alive during the switch. Just here during that stinky part of the concentration camp usage by big its.

gaza is a modern day quackery of religious monarchy. The big its, are holding the little its, in a concentration camp.


wichever it, is doing it, is irrelevant

not good.

No, Auschwitz isn't Gaza, Auschwitz was a proper concentration camp. Comparing the two is a rather desperate act of hyperbole, nothing more.

What does it matter if you were alive during Auschwitz ? I mean, the term was coined before you were born and if you're only concerned about events in your lifetime why would you use a term that predates you ?

One BIG difference between the two, Auschwitz and Gaza, The residents of Gaza have it within there capability to end the current situation. All they need to do is end the state of belligerency. Surrender, if you will.

Yet no "activist", counsels this in the name of peace. Not one. Sure they all claim to be concerned about the Palestinian people, pounding their fists on their keyboards, shouting at protests, sending piddling amounts of aid on ships, and bombastically driving in convoys to "aid the oppressed"

Concern for the welfare of the Gazan people, sure, sure.

 

[Thunder]

I'm curious as to why a Holocaust denier/Holocaust supporter is comparing ANYTHING to a Nazi concentration camp?

Consistency, is nice.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

I'm curious as to why a Holocaust denier/Holocaust supporter is comparing ANYTHING to a Nazi concentration camp?

Consistency, is nice.

source for the bolded bit please.

 

[Thunder]

source for the bolded bit please.

i asked the EXACT same questions a week ago. I'll PM you.

 

[Bishadi]

No, Auschwitz isn't Gaza, Auschwitz was a proper concentration camp. Comparing the two is a rather desperate act of hyperbole, nothing more.

Am i assuming that as soon as lambshades are made from palestinian skin, then you will believe?

i think your comment is whacked!

What does it matter if you were alive during Auschwitz ?

you cant change what happened there.

I mean, the term was coined before you were born and if you're only concerned about events in your lifetime why would you use a term that predates you ?

that is what i am arguing. The fools believe in the whacked interpretation of pity seeking bigots when the definition of the term "concentration camp' is met within GAZA

let me help the uneducated with evolving:

wiki .......... Internment is the imprisonment or confinement of people, commonly in large groups, without trial. The Oxford English Dictionary (1989) gives the meaning as: "The action of ‘interning’; confinement within the limits of a country or place". ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_Camp



A camp where large numbers of persons—such as political prisoners, prisoners of war, refugees—are detained for the purpose of concentrating them in one place; A camp or premises in which persons considered to be undesirable by those who control it are hidden away, mistreated, and even killed;

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/concentration_camp


that is basic common sense but self centered bigots aint reading english or maybe they prefer just talemud

One BIG difference between the two, Auschwitz and Gaza, The residents of Gaza have it within there capability to end the current situation. All they need to do is end the state of belligerency. Surrender, if you will.

i live here and aint surrendering!

ie.... israel MUST surrender to democracy and compassion. the bigotry MUST stop and the religious theocracy MUST stop.

Israel was paid for, to be a democratic society otherwise the whole creation was a lie.

Concern for the welfare of the Gazan people, sure, sure.

they are human beings and that concern may be nothing to you but likewise, you mean little to me!

 

[bigjelmapro]

That's gold. A Gazan calling Israel a religious theocracy. Gazan religious leaders calling Jews the 'brothers of apes and monkeys' and a Gazan whinges about bigotry.

Perhaps you should look up the term hypocrisy in that dictionary of yours

Bishadi still hasn't made a case for calling Gaza a concentration camp.

 

[Thunder]

the bigotry MUST stop and the religious theocracy MUST stop.

they are human beings and that concern may be nothing to you but likewise, you mean little to me!

Gaza is run as a Muslim theocracy.

And I am quite confident Stout could care less what you think of him.

 

[Stout]

Am i assuming that as soon as lambshades are made from palestinian skin, then you will believe?

It's way more than lampshades made of skin. Let me tell you about the west. We've had literally a generation raised on TV and movies that characterise the Nazi's as their concentration camps as the greatest evil(s) to ever beset mankind. I won't waste time and effort explaining how those camps were run as you've proven you have the capabilities to do your own research on what went on.

If you can prove, beyond a dictionary definition that you're experiencing what the inmates of Nazi concentration camps experienced eg collective punishment through starvation, insane medical experiments, then I'm all ears.

In your world, Israel and the IDF may be considered the greatest evil(s) to ever beset mankind, fair enough, however in an English language, western oriented format such as this, we're used to most anybody and everybody using Nazi comparisons to make their point on pretty much every subject. In short, the Nazi thing is overdone.

Open air prison is a more accurate description and it's not just Israel, it's your neighbours to the south who are also your jailers. Why is that ?

i live here and aint surrendering!

Why not ?

You have everything to gain and nothing to loose. Just think, if you, or your government decided to end the state of belligerency, you'd force Israel's hand under the Oslo accords, repair your relationship with Egypt and hopefully restore overland access to Gaza ( no more open air prison ) and, as a nation, be able to exploit those offshore gas fields.

they are human beings

Yes, they/you are and as human beings you have to ask yourself is the lifestyle you've chosen through electing a government dedicated to eradicating it's/your neighbours really worth it ?

 

[WildCat]

ie.... israel MUST surrender to democracy and compassion. the bigotry MUST stop and the religious theocracy MUST stop.

Should Gaza be a democracy and shun religious theocracy?

 

[Stout]

That's gold. A Gazan calling Israel a religious theocracy. Gazan religious leaders calling Jews the 'brothers of apes and monkeys' and a Gazan whinges about bigotry.

Perhaps you should look up the term hypocrisy in that dictionary of yours

Bishadi still hasn't made a case for calling Gaza a concentration camp.

Gold it is.

If I made one of those word clouds out of Bishadi's posts, it would have the word bigot in big bold letters right in the center of it.

 

[Bishadi]

That's gold.

i know.

So you read the definition of 'concentration camp'?

_____________ A camp where large numbers of persons (gaza)—such as political prisoners, prisoners of war, refugees—are detained for the purpose of concentrating them in one place (GAZA); A camp or premises in which persons considered to be undesirable by those who control it are hidden away, mistreated, and even killed;

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/concentration_camp



yep............. Gaza is a concentration camp

ie.... that is just common sense but then watch how bigotry and irresponsibility are represented; (see quoted parts in grey)

A Gazan calling Israel a religious theocracy.

are you in gaza? i aint in gaza. i am in america and watching with open eyes.

Gazan religious leaders calling Jews the 'brothers of apes and monkeys'

all gazan? proof, link, quotes from the 1.5 million refugees and political prisoners who are being mistreated.

and a Gazan whinges about bigotry.

are you a gazan?

how do you know such information and willing to put your credibility on it?

Perhaps you should look up the term hypocrisy in that dictionary of yours

why? will it have your posts as examples?

Bishadi still hasn't made a case for calling Gaza a concentration camp.

i dont need too, wiki did it just fine


A camp where large numbers of persons—such as political prisoners, prisoners of war, refugees—are detained for the purpose of concentrating them in one place; A camp or premises in which persons considered to be undesirable by those who control it are hidden away, mistreated, and even killed;

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/concentration_camp



nothing in there about lampshades, religion or even the link to hypocracy and your posts.


It is all there at face value so anyone can read it for themselves.


Question: is calling gaza a concentration camp mean anything regarding the term 'anti-semitic'? What i am asking is, does requiring responsibility to the people who are maintaining a concentration camp mean, that a person is anti semitic or that right and wrong supercede any belief or created ideology?


Gaza is a concentration camp, it is wrong, and i could care less what the religious BS is about.


The fact is, one group with arms and my countries funding is oppressing millions and the whole world is being affected by it.

deal with it!

 

[WildCat]

Should Gaza be a democracy and shun religious theocracy?

Bishadi? Do you like living in a Hamas-controlled theocracy?

Do you think having an internationally recognized terrorist group as your government is a good thing? Do you think maybe, just maybe, things would be different if Hamas wasn't in control of Gaza?