Gaza - A 5 Star Concentration Camp *****

[A'isha]

So, no much brotherly love there between Muslims then. It's all about nationalism then, right?

Not solely, but it's certainly a huge chunk of the problem when it comes to inter-Islamic violence worldwide. Certain states (such as Iran) even focus on ethnic superiority over religious commonality, oppressing Muslims of different ethnic groups from that of the ethnic majority in the country.

And I was given the impression that Muslims were supposed to support each other....

Yes, just as Christians are. And it's worked out about as well for Muslims as it has for Christians.

 

[armageddonman]

One of these days, when I have absolutely NOTHING to do, I'm going to go through your posts and see what % of that 20 thousand is emoticons.

Regardless, concentration camps generally don't have shopping centers.

In before someone starts writing about shops, hospitals, cinemas and orchestras in Auschwitz.

Gaza must be a very strange place nevertheless.

 

[Bishadi]

They are not allowed by law to take up those professions.

I will admit, on a gaza thread, i aint looking into lebannon laws.

Exactly like the Jews were not allowed to take up those professions in Nazi Germany.

jews owned half of germany before ww2 and their businesses would not support the government to break the versailles treaty.

That is what caused, the boycott and war declared by judaistic synagogues against germany well before any ww2 even broke out. The business leaders were against 'the people'.

kind of like now, all over the world!

Nothing to do with education.

sure it is.

if you were educated you would not be arguing

Yes you are. You just made up an ad-hoc argument.

this thread is on the concentration camp called 'gaza'..... not the laws of lebannon towards the refugees kicked out of their homes in palestine (by the zionist occupiers called israel)

Fact: Palestinians are kept apart from the rest of the inhabitants of Lebanon by restricting them to live in refugee camps and by preventing them to travel, own land and work in certain professions.

Sounds familiar?

sure.


sounds like arizona and the mexicans.

 

[IDB87]

sounds like arizona and the mexicans.

Maybe you would have a point if Mexico shared a border with Spain.

 

[armageddonman]

Yes, just as Christians are. And it's worked out about as well for Muslims as it has for Christians.

Well, if they don't support each other, they aren't real Muslims/Christians.

Seriously, visit any Muslim discussion forum. The amount of abuse and threats Muslims hand out between each other is a sight to behold.

A: "Sheik Ahmed said X is right".
B: "But Sheik Yussuf said Y is right, you filthy mushrik, also see hadeeth 1, 2 and 3. May Allah destroy you and all you sufi/deobandi/whatever apostates."
C: "Hi, I'm a Shia. What's going on in this forum?".
A+B: "May Allah curse you!"

 

[A'isha]

A: "Sheik Ahmed said X is right".
B: "But Sheik Yussuf said Y is right, you filthy mushrik, also see hadeeth 1, 2 and 3. May Allah destroy you and all you sufi/deobandi/whatever apostates."
C: "Hi, I'm a Shia. What's going on in this forum?".
A+B: "May Allah curse you!"

In the words of the great Homer Simpson, "It's funny 'cause it's true!"

 

[armageddonman]

I will admit, on a gaza thread, i aint looking into lebannon laws.

So, what's your opinion about that? Why do you think it's OK that Palestinians are not allowed to work as doctors, lawyers, etc. in Lebanon?

Or do you think they should be allowed to?

jews owned half of germany before ww2 and their businesses would not support the government to break the versailles treaty.

That is what caused, the boycott and war declared by judaistic synagogues against germany well before any ww2 even broke out. The business leaders were against 'the people'.

kind of like now, all over the world!

Ah, yes. The Weltjudentum and why the Jews deserved to be persecuted by the Nazis.

That was just a matter of time, wasn't it?

 

[Bishadi]

No need to go that far. Just need to go back to the turn of the century (and something that actually happened!).

basic wiki

Terrorism

The bombing has appeared in literature about the practice and history of terrorism. It has been called one of the most lethal terrorist attacks of the 20th century.[30]

Security analyst Bruce Hoffman wrote of the bombing in his book Inside Terrorism that: "Unlike many terrorist groups today, the Irgun's strategy was not deliberately to target or wantonly harm civilians. At the same time, though, the claim of Begin and other apologists that warnings were issued cannot absolve either the group or its commander ... Indeed, whatever nonlethal intentions the Irgun might or might not have had, the fact remains that a tragedy of almost unparalleled magnitude was inflicted... so that to this day the bombing remains one of the world's single most lethal terrorist incidents of the twentieth century."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing#cite_note-rapoport2004-31

Correct. There was no ruling class of Palestinians that ownership of the land could defer to, and so naturally it would go to the conquerors.

the conqueror will hold compassion as its foundation.

That be a promise!

There were Jews living in Palestine well before the Zionists arrived, who, according to your argument, owned the land they lived on. Are you now contradicting yourself just to argue with me?

no.

zionist created israel not the brothers living side by side with muslims, xtians and any ins the neighborhood.

it was okey dokey before zionist terrrorism began invoking bigotry of the 'rights to the land' based on religious beliefs.


it is kind of hitlerish and perhaps why "concentration camp", fits well to describe gaza.

But it's sort of irrelevant, since a good chunk of land was purchased by the Jews and Zionists (from Palestinian land owners) after the fall of the Ottomans.

beep...

quack attack.

Britain governed the land, not yoda

Actually the Irgun was a dissident group that did not represent mainstream Jewry in Palestine.

i know.

them jews had no whacked out beliefs of taking over. That is what is bred into the people via BS and religious adherance.

Eventually the IDF and Irgun fought over smuggled arms that were in violation of a UN resolution. Forcibly integrated into the IDF after that incident, they were eventually outlawed and dismantled after an assassination of a Swedish diplomat.



The Irgun was formed in response to the riots of 1929. What happened in Jerusalem in 1929?

nope....

beep......

go read up a bit.

zionism is a religious right wing nut org, kind of like al queda is to afghanistan, in which a religious underpinning is the purpose; they want that mount in jeruselem to rebuild solomons temple and sacrafice lambs for messiah to come.


if you dont know judaism, you would not comprehend the bulk of the underlying purpose and religious commitment to THAT TEMPLE to be called ZION!

dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

 

[armageddonman]

invoking bigotry of the 'rights to the land' based on religious beliefs.

Do you think that Muslim land can ever become "non-Muslim"?

 

[Bishadi]

So, what's your opinion about that? Why do you think it's OK that Palestinians are not allowed to work as doctors, lawyers, etc. in Lebanon?

inequality as bred into the region.

Basically to appease a group uprooted in germany via ww2, a new group was uprooted and now this generation has a responsibility to either return them home and let the money gang pay the cost (reparations) or we all heading into ww3.


the 5 stars of gaza is that it is even existing and should be on all radars.


do you realize, that if an american businessman (company) was to bring a few million refugees to american, they could create a small country of an income base. The infrastructure etc.....

How about we petition the US gov to give the money to reestablish the refugees versus arming israel with 30 billion of our money?


ie.... if that camp and the atrocities of bigotry are not dealt with soon........... we in for one hell of a fireworks show!

 

[Bishadi]

Do you think that Muslim land can ever become "non-Muslim"?

what is muslim land?

is that another one of them genetic things?

That would be like calling america 'a xtian land' and that is beyond a joke.

 

[armageddonman]

inequality as bred into the region.

Basically to appease a group uprooted in germany via ww2, a new group was uprooted and now this generation has a responsibility to either return them home and let the money gang pay the cost (reparations) or we all heading into ww3.


the 5 stars of gaza is that it is even existing and should be on all radars.


do you realize, that if an american businessman (company) was to bring a few million refugees to american, they could create a small country of an income base. The infrastructure etc.....

How about we petition the US gov to give the money to reestablish the refugees versus arming israel with 30 billion of our money?


ie.... if that camp and the atrocities of bigotry are not dealt with soon........... we in for one hell of a fireworks show!

So, do you think that it is right for Lebanon to bar Palestinians from becoming lawyers and doctors and from owning real estate?

Yes

or

No?

Is it really that hard to answer this simple question?

 

[armageddonman]

what is muslim land?

is that another one of them genetic things?

That would be like calling america 'a xtian land' and that is beyond a joke.

Controlled and governed by a Muslim government, e.g. a Caliphate.

E.g. what used to be Al Andalus.

Should it be re-conquered if a Caliphate would be re-established?

 

[IDB87]

basic wiki

Terrorism

The bombing has appeared in literature about the practice and history of terrorism. It has been called one of the most lethal terrorist attacks of the 20th century.[30]

Alright. I guess you'll have to point out someone here posting that the Irgun wasn't a terrorist group. And since I was talking about the fall of the Ottoman empire, I'm not sure what you're trying to get across.

the conqueror will hold compassion as its foundation.

That be a promise!

What me a promise mon?

Anyone else care to decipher that?

zionist created israel not the brothers living side by side with muslims, xtians and any ins the neighborhood.

Perhaps you can explain what happened to the Jews involved in the Hebron massacre, and the Safed massacre in 1929. Those same 'brothers' living side by side with Muslims were massacred because of a rumor.

Regardless, Jews were already living in Palestine before Zionism, which was the point you ignored. Zionists just brought money and technology to Israel to help already established Jewish communities flourish, and to establish new communities by paying cash to Palestinian land owners after the Ottomans were defeated.

it was okey dokey before zionist terrrorism began invoking bigotry of the 'rights to the land' based on religious beliefs.

If that's the case, why were Jews of the Old Yishuv murdered in the 1929 riots?

Britain governed the land, not yoda

Governed, right. Not sure what Yoda has to do with it?

Regardless, after the Ottomans were defeated, Palestinians who had land decided they could sell it to a Jew who offered cash or something of value in exchange. This is how land was transferred from Palestinians to Jews. Legal, cold hard cash.

zionism is a religious right wing nut org, kind of like al queda is to afghanistan

You fail at making analogies.

That is all.

 

[IDB87]

Controlled and governed by a Muslim government, e.g. a Caliphate.

E.g. what used to be Al Andalus.

Should it be re-conquered if a Caliphate would be re-established?

Dar al-Harb - (Domain of War) refers to the territory under the hegemony of unbelievers, which is on terms of active or potential belligerency with the Domain of Islam, and presumably hostile to the Muslims living in its domain.

Dar al Islam - the area of the world under the rule of Islam , literally, "the home of Islam" or "the home of submission."

 

[IDB87]

Basically to appease a group uprooted in germany via ww2, a new group was uprooted and now this generation has a responsibility to either return them home and let the money gang pay the cost (reparations) or we all heading into ww3.

What % of that group uprooted themselves at the behest of Arab leaders?

What % of that group was driven out by the IDF?

 

[Bishadi]

So, do you think that it is right for Lebanon to bar Palestinians from becoming lawyers and doctors and from owning real estate?

Yes

or

No?

no opinion other than at face value, you have a point.

like i said, it reminds me of the mexicans within the US; is that right too?

yes/no


see what i mean?

Is it really that hard to answer this simple question?

back at you.....

ie... what is the compassionate answer and what is the political one?

 

[IDB87]

no opinion other than at face value, you have a point.

like i said, it reminds me of the mexicans within the US; is that right too?

No. It is nothing like that.

If Mexico shared a border with Spain, you MAY have a point. Alas, it does not, ergo you do not.

Perhaps you care to explain a little more?

 

[Bishadi]

Controlled and governed by a Muslim government, e.g. a Caliphate.

most any country is governed by the money.

see saudi arabia

see israel (our money)



pakistan is muslim but our money is why muslims are not using them weapons
ie... the pakis hate americans worst than iranians.

 

[Bishadi]

No. It is nothing like that.

If Mexico shared a border with Spain, you MAY have a point. Alas, it does not, ergo you do not.

Perhaps you care to explain a little more?

when you come back from space, perhaps!