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Merged Pat Robertson for decriminalizing marijuana / "Treat it like alcohol"

Mycroft

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I was checking out the blog ":Little Green Footballs" today and found this little gem. :)

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/37781_Pat_Robertson_is_Down_with_Weed



http://www.mediaite.com/tv/pat-robertson-criminalizing-marijuana-is-ruining-young-people/


“I’m not exactly for the use of drugs, don’t get me wrong, but I just believe that criminalizing marijuana, criminalizing the possession of a few ounces of pot, that kinda thing it’s just, it’s costing us a fortune and it’s ruining young people. Young people go into prisons, they go in as youths and come out as hardened criminals. That’s not a good thing.”

I'm not normally a fan of Robertson, but I like the direction of his thinking on this issue.
 
Well, his spokesman did try to walk it back:


Update: Since we initially posted the story, CBN Spokesman Chris Roslan vehemently denounced the idea that Robertson called for the decriminalization of marijuana in the following press statement:

Dr. Robertson did not call for the decriminalization of marijuana. He was advocating that our government revisit the severity of the existing laws because mandatory drug sentences do harm to many young people who go to prison and come out as hardened criminals. He was also pointing out that these mandatory sentences needlessly cost our government millions of dollars when there are better approaches available. Dr. Robertson’s comments followed a CBN News story about a group of conservatives who have proven that faith-based rehabilitation for criminals has resulted in lower repeat offenders and saved the government millions of dollars. Dr. Robertson unequivocally stated that he is against the use of illegal drugs.
 
spokesman said:
Dr. Robertson unequivocally stated that he is against the use of illegal drugs.

You know, it is possible to be both against the use of all illegal drugs and at the same time in favor of decriminalization of one or more drugs. If only we could have a rational discussion of the matter at a federal level.
 
Yeah, well "revisiting the severity of the existing laws" is just about the dictionary definition of "decriminalizing". But yeah, I bet a lot of conservatives are apoplectic over that. :)
 
Great Gotham City Batman! Did he really say that? Whats next dogs and cats sleeping together!? The sky falling? Total anarchy?
 
I thought many criminals go to prison and find Jesus. That can't be bad in the minds of someone like Robertson, can it?
 
Or they find Allah.

I don't know if this is true, but it has been claimed that "80% of the prisoners who "find faith" while in prison convert to Islam."

That seems kinda high, but it may depend on how the statistics are gathered.

I'm told that some people in prison just convert to a new religion every few months because it gives them something to do. In the case of Islam and Judaism the conversion can get you a special diet, which may be perceived to be better than regular prison fare, and clergy comes to talk to you and teach you about your new religion.
 
It costs around $30,000 a year to keep a person in prison.

So, the guy down the street from me who went up for six years for possession of a half pound of weed cost the State of Illinois $180,000 exclusive of policing and prosecutor's costs. And excluding the taxes this fellow would have paid for six years on his income (he had a real job, I think the weed was just personal use) and sales taxes and property taxes. And excluding the costs to the city for repeatedly dealing with an abandoned house. I figure a quarter million at least.

In what way is this a value for the State? Is the harm this guy was causing so terrible that it is worth a quarter million dollars and deprivation of his freedom to remove it?

Sorry, I just cannot see it.
 
you and your Logic!

It costs around $30,000 a year to keep a person in prison.

So, the guy down the street from me who went up for six years for possession of a half pound of weed cost the State of Illinois $180,000 exclusive of policing and prosecutor's costs. And excluding the taxes this fellow would have paid for six years on his income (he had a real job, I think the weed was just personal use) and sales taxes and property taxes. And excluding the costs to the city for repeatedly dealing with an abandoned house. I figure a quarter million at least.

In what way is this a value for the State? Is the harm this guy was causing so terrible that it is worth a quarter million dollars and deprivation of his freedom to remove it?

Sorry, I just cannot see it.


Obviously your not Thinking of the Children!!
 
It costs around $30,000 a year to keep a person in prison.

So, the guy down the street from me who went up for six years for possession of a half pound of weed cost the State of Illinois $180,000 exclusive of policing and prosecutor's costs. And excluding the taxes this fellow would have paid for six years on his income (he had a real job, I think the weed was just personal use) and sales taxes and property taxes. And excluding the costs to the city for repeatedly dealing with an abandoned house. I figure a quarter million at least.

In what way is this a value for the State? Is the harm this guy was causing so terrible that it is worth a quarter million dollars and deprivation of his freedom to remove it?

Sorry, I just cannot see it.

You're just not seeing the big picture. Weed is bad for you. If you smoke it you might like it too much, and then you might not do as well as you might have in your studies and you might not be as motivated at your job as you could be.

So to stop you from wrecking your life this way, it's important for the state to throw you in jail for several years, put a felony conviction on your record so you can't get a job when you get out, cost you tens of thousands in legal fees and depriving your family of your support for all that time.

It's for your own good, dammit!
 
Obviously your not Thinking of the Children!!

Apparently BenBurch wants kids to go out and whore themselves out to get their daily rock of crack, because that's what happens to everybody who ever smokes pot and isn't caught and locked up in prison with rapists and murderers for their own good! :rolleyes:

As for the OP, meh, broken clock.
 
Pat Robertson says something right: treat marijuana like alcohol

New York Times:
Of the many roles Pat Robertson has assumed over his five-decade-long career as an evangelical leader — including presidential candidate and provocative voice of the right wing — his newest guise may perhaps surprise his followers the most: marijuana legalization advocate.

“I really believe we should treat marijuana the way we treat beverage alcohol,” Mr. Robertson said in an interview on Wednesday. “I’ve never used marijuana and I don’t intend to, but it’s just one of those things that I think: this war on drugs just hasn’t succeeded.”

Mr. Robertson’s remarks echoed statements he made last week on “The 700 Club,” the signature program of his Christian Broadcasting Network, and other comments he made in 2010. While those earlier remarks were largely dismissed by his followers, Mr. Robertson has now apparently fully embraced the idea of legalizing marijuana, arguing that it is a way to bring down soaring rates of incarceration and reduce the social and financial costs.

“I believe in working with the hearts of people, and not locking them up,” he said.

Mr. Robertson’s remarks were hailed by pro-legalization groups, who called them a potentially important endorsement in their efforts to roll back marijuana penalties and prohibitions, which residents of Colorado and Washington will vote on this fall. [. . .]

For his part, Mr. Robertson said he was “not encouraging people to use narcotics in any way, shape or form.” But he said he saw little difference between smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol, a longstanding argument from far more liberal — and libertarian-minded — leaders.

“If people can go into a liquor store and buy a bottle of alcohol and drink it at home legally, then why do we say that the use of this other substance is somehow criminal?” he said.

A somewhat surprising endorsement. Putting aside the goofy things Pat Robertson says, I think these comments are good way to put the spotlight on cannabis legalization.
 
It has biblical backing!

"Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be meat for you;" (Genesis 1:29)

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)

:D

ETA: Maybe Pat is getting glaucoma?
 
It has biblical backing!

"Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be meat for you;" (Genesis 1:29)
Does that mean if you eat navel oranges you are worshipping Satan?!
 
New York Times:


A somewhat surprising endorsement. Putting aside the goofy things Pat Robertson says, I think these comments are good way to put the spotlight on cannabis legalization.

He's only human. He'll be dead soon.... but I'm sure if he had the time he could change a lot of his other views as well.
 

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