Continuation - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

[Chris_Halkides]

ILE's photographs

And even if we did it would remain impeachable by those who were intent on impeachment. The truth is that photographs are of no merit in a trial unless thet are attested to as true representations by a real, live person who was there when they were taken. In this case we have the testimony of real, live people who were there. This has already been derided by Knox partisans as the work of bumbling, incompetent conspirators.

Quadraginta,

The real, live people who were there managed to make the bathroom look red, then leaked this photograph to the press. Some people really thought that the red color was due to blood. How can we be sure that we are not being manipulated by ILE again?

 

[Chris C]

For me the most logical thing to do would be to ring the door bell/knock on the door. If one of the upstairs tenants answers the door you say you were looking for one of the boys from downstairs. Then just excuse yourself and leave. No need to hurl rocks around if you just want to determine if someone is home.

Guede claims to have arrived at the apartment at 8:30pm and waited for Meredith to get home. Which means he was there for 30 minutes prior to her arriving. He didn't ring the doorbell on his previous botched burglar attempts.

Heck, for all we know he might have rung the doorbell, tossed a rock through the window and then climbed the balcony and entered through the balcony door.

Regardless, he arrived at that apartment prior to Meredith arriving home. In his interviews with police he acknowledged knowing the time Meredith arrived home and what window was broken. Thats information that wasn't exactly floating around in the media. Plus thats knowledge of the crime scene at a time in which Sollecito or Knox couldn't not have been present.

Now if you believe Knox is guilty, whats your opinion on the matter of Guede arriving there at 8:30pm? Do you believe he just lurked down in the shadows until after 11:30pm when Mignini claims Knox and Sollecito entered the apartment?

 

[RWVBWL]

Rudy Guede's "friend"?

thats way out there.
how about the car in the driveway, with the gate open (the tow truck driver saw), was the cohort in crime with Rudy, a watch out....and maybe Rudy/some unknown did enter with Meredith into her cottage but under duress.
maybe Rudy came back to the cottage to burglarize it after finding it empty the first visit. maybe it wasn't kebob he got, but a helping hand who had a car.

Hi JREF2010,
There are still so many questions in this case we discuss!

Back in '08, I remember reading this post that someone named Isakelle from New Zealand had posted on Perugia Shock.
LMT just refreshed my memory of it and as I do not recall us ever have a discussion about this information, I bring it over here to JREF to debate.
If you keep an open mind, it does makes an interesting scenerio too.

Rudy Guede knew who murdered Meredith, for it was his "friend".
And he himself will surely be killed if he speaks up.
Myself, if I was Rudy Guede and had just watched a "friend" brutally stab a young woman I knew to her death, I would definately be afraid of the guy, wouldn't you?
Sure! The streets are friggin' gnarly...

From Perugia Shock:
IsaKelle said:
"Hi Frank, thanks for your reply to my post.

Regards a public pic of RS, there was plenty available from day one taken outside the cottage. About the shoeprint/9rings debate on Matrix, it's not really a matter of whether it convinced you and I, RS defence will of course present their case about the shoeprint and it's up to the judge whether they accept or not.

The reason I follow this case so closely from New Zealand, apart from that I am married to an Italian and have family near Perugia, is that we currently have a 21yo son studying at the UOF Perugia and also he is studying and playing professional soccer under an exceptional Italian coach. He met Meredith on a few occasions and like the rest of the students in Perugia was completely shocked and upset about this evil murder that happened in their midst. He and his fellow soccer students were interviewed by the Perugia police working on the case asking about Rudy Guede whom had unfortunately been at a party in their apartment one or two nights after the murder and just before he disappeared. I reported on the Seattle PI blog that the police were looking for 'RG' before it became released to the public because of what happened to my son and his friends. I asked my son if he or his friends were ever offered drugs by Guede and he said no, never, but that Guede hung around with a very dodgy Italian guy who was a very furtive character and not friendly as Guede was with them and that none of them liked this guy at all and that he was very creepy. This so called friend of Guede's is the one that dealt the drugs and was always scamming for money. My son also assured me they never took drugs from this strange guy and I sincerely hope not. My son and his fellow students in Perugia feel strongly that this guy could be implicated in the murder along with Guede, and hence our theory that Guede may have been threatened in some way to ensure his silence.
I also think RS and AK are involved in some way, but as they discussed on Matrix programme,it is really only the fact of the lies and changing stories that they are held in prison, much of the evidence to date is cirucmstantial plus a lot of unsustantiated reporting through tabloids.

Much still to learn about what really went on that awful night.
Salute.

January 20, 2008 12:25 AM
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From Perugia Shock:
IsaKelle said...
"Yes, let's wait and see what transpires with this mystery person who I forget to mention in my earlier post disappeared from Perugia after the murder. Regards the possible threat from this person, I think if there was a threat it was only to Guede. There may be the same situation that we had with Guede were we knew who he was several days before he was picked up, if the police release a name of this suspect then he may strike according to his threat, maybe this explains also why the police do not release a name.Anyway all this only conjecture at this point.
Guede at the very least is guilty of rape and/or sexual battery, there is no way it was consensual and of course for abandoning an injured and dying person, these crimes he will definitely serve time for. Regards the other two it is still a matter that we have to wait and see what new evidence transpires as we all know what they have at the moment is very confusing and sometimes conflicting. The police seem very confident of their case against them so far.
In answer to 'InnocentUPG', my son just said this guy was always scamming for money to which I went into a mothers lecture about locking up always his valuables, laptop, apartment etc, never walk home by himself at night and develop a buddy system where all friends look out for one another if the are in a messy condition after partying etc. I don't know anything of the guys downstairs and their relationships etc apart from what I have read same as everyone else. To me a striking point is that all other occupants of the house were absent on that night, indicating some sort of 'inside' knowledge and for the murder to have occured on that night.
Have any of you been following the Haloscan blog ? Kermit just posted another powerpoint presentation showing several photos of the house and it's environment. The road that runs directly above the house is basically built like a viaduct with concrete pillars creating cave like areas under the road. This is directly on the opposite side of the drive to the house, as Kermit points out hopefully nowhere that nasty people and vermin live. If you want a link to this I can find it for you."

January 20, 2008 7:56 PM

Link:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7877520352483689941&postID=5186773974144315309

Interesting couple of posts, wouldn't you agree?
I also do not recall reading about the concrete pillar caves under the road that ran by the girls apartment...

Take it easy, RWVBWL

PS-If this person did actually exist, might he be the more experienced burglar that "helped", so to say, Rudy Guede break into the lawyers office by disconnecting the burglar alarm?
I wonder...

 

[quadraginta]

Quadraginta,

The real, live people who were there managed to make the bathroom look red, then leaked this photograph to the press. Some people really thought that the red color was due to blood. How can we be sure that we are not being manipulated by ILE again?

Did the real, live people you are referring to testify under oath before a jury in court that the red color was due to blood?

That's how it works with photos in court. They're shown to the jury and the images are attested to as being true. The meaning of their content is discussed. Under oath.

Who leaked what to which press, and how the images were presented by that press is an entirely different discussion.

 

[tronic]

Hello, new poster here. I have been following the break-in line, but the problem I have is that from a car at night it's pretty hard to see anything much, except right in front of you. The contrast makes any unlit areas hard to see, plus you are watching the road, and could only get a glimpse of anyone hanging around or on the cottage.

The same applies for people looking out of apartments, you can see lights, but very little in unlit areas. Not many people are going to be staring out the windows anyway.

The people who would have the best vision and awareness, and time to look into dark valleys are pedestrians, but it's not the sort of road pedestrians would normally walk along.

Generally, AFAICT all entry points to the cottage are well hidden at night, and it would be an easy place to burgle. The question of which is the easiest is subjective and probably impossible to decide without a practical test. If the cottage had been thoroughly cased in advance, with knowledge of the Filomena's faulty shutters, and that most of the occupants were out, then Filomena's window would make a decent challenge.

A person standing on a balcony would only arouse suspicion if the witness knew that the person was not a resident. In contrast, someone climbing an outside wall would strike you as quite unusual, if not suspicious.

Burglars are lazy (otherwise they would get a job), and would take the easiest route.

The less suspicious, and easier route, appears to be the balcony, and this is apparently the choice of entry for practicing burglars, so we should conclude that is the "best" entry. We can't really dispute that, since we don't know how well Rudy may have cased the cottage, nor whether experience had made him more proficient or not.

So I would score this as balcony 2, speculation 0.

The balcony is the easiest entry point. The cottage had been broken into twice before and it was NOT through Filomenas bedroom window. It's an impossible climb up & through that window. I think the window was smashed by AK/RS after the exit of Guede -- in their trashed state then they made an impulsive decision to stage the break-in there.

One other thing -- AK has admitted she knew RG. RG was friendly with the students in the lower flat. Why would he burgle people he knew?

The break-in was staged, the cleanup occurred -- but not well enough. AK's bloodied bare footprints were measured in the corridor -- the footprint of RG plainly on the bathmat.

 

[RWVBWL]

High marks for exaggeration, but definitely a fail on plausibility.

No, most people "with reasonable athletic ability" cannot hang from their hands against a flat vertical surface, raise themselves up past their shoulders to a handstand and then "step through" those hands which, if you recall, are only going to be placed on ~sixteen inches of sill surface. Most people wouldn't be able to do this starting from their knees on a tumbling mat. Yes, a trained gymnast could, but I haven't seen any credible claims that Guede was a trained gymnast.

This doesn't even begin to explain why anyone would bother, when cleaning off the sill is such a quick and simple act with absolutely no negative repercussions for a burglar breaking in.
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Hi Quadraginta,
I enjoyed your earlier posting that gave a few of your own personal experiences in life!

I don't really discuss the window climb in much, since I do not have much experience with 2nd floor windows myself. Not even chasin' chicks, as you very eloquently put it!

However, I feel that a young guy who plays basketball would probably be very athlethic, strong and limber, capable of runnin' fast, havin' good aim and able to jump high for slam dunks.

So it makes sense that a guy such as Rudy with those abilities could indeed throw a rock and then break in thru a 2nd story window. Heck, stranger break-ins have occurred, I'm sure.

Since Rudy Guede was once found to be in possesion of stolen goods from another 2nd floor building that was burgalrized, well I give his chances of B+E thru Filomena's 2nd floor window a lot more weight then the average Joe basketball player. Guilt by association, I suppose...

Here's something else I have wondered about.
When I see that photograph of the guy attemping to climp the window, I've thought why he is doin' it in a suit and dress shoes?
Rudy Guede, in all probability, was not wearingf a suit+tie and dress shoes!

Why didn't the defense just hire an athlethic basketball player of around the same height and build as Rudy Guede and tell him that he makes $50.00 for just trying, BUT a few hundred $$$ if/when he quickly get's inside that 2nd floor window during a night climb test done with the camera's rolling.
I bet the guy would have done so!

Just my thoughts on the matter,
Peace,
RWVBWL

 

[platonov]

Hi Quadraginta,
I enjoyed your earlier posting that gave a few of your own personal experiences in life!

I don't really discuss the window climb in much, since I do not have much experience with 2nd floor windows myself. Not even chasin' chicks, as you very eloquently put it!

However, I feel that a young guy who plays basketball would probably be very athlethic, strong and limber, capable of runnin' fast, havin' good aim and able to jump high for slam dunks.

So it makes sense that a guy such as Rudy with those abilities could indeed throw a rock and then break in thru a 2nd story window. Heck, stranger break-ins have occurred, I'm sure.

Since Rudy Guede was once found to be in possesion of stolen goods from another 2nd floor building that was burgalrized, well I give his chances of B+E thru Filomena's 2nd floor window a lot more weight then the average Joe basketball player. Guilt by association, I suppose...

Here's something else I have wondered about.
When I see that photograph of the guy attemping to climp the window, I've thought why he is doin' it in a suit and dress shoes?
Rudy Guede, in all probability, was not wearingf a suit+tie and dress shoes!

Why didn't the defense just hire an athlethic basketball player of around the same height and build as Rudy Guede and tell him that he makes $50.00 for just trying, BUT a few hundred $$$ if/when he quickly get's inside that 2nd floor window during a night climb test done with the camera's rolling.
I bet the guy would have done so!

Just my thoughts on the matter,
Peace,
RWVBWL

Why didn't they indeed OR did they perhaps, and why are they 'withholding' this video - good (very good) questions indeed ?

How far/high up does this thing go - is this perhaps why the wikileaks guy was arrested/held ?

Hmmm

 

[tronic]

High marks for exaggeration, but definitely a fail on plausibility.

No, most people "with reasonable athletic ability" cannot hang from their hands against a flat vertical surface, raise themselves up past their shoulders to a handstand and then "step through" those hands which, if you recall, are only going to be placed on ~sixteen inches of sill surface. Most people wouldn't be able to do this starting from their knees on a tumbling mat. Yes, a trained gymnast could, but I haven't seen any credible claims that Guede was a trained gymnast.

This doesn't even begin to explain why anyone would bother, when cleaning off the sill is such a quick and simple act with absolutely no negative repercussions for a burglar breaking in.

Nobody climbed up that wall, got up and over the ledge through that window. The wall is blank without any hand-holds. No scuff marks on it. A rusty nail still in place. No traces on the ground. Nobody got through the window - much of the glass still there. No traces of entry -- glass on the ledge not brushed off. No trace of Guede in that room.

There is no way anyone could have "boosted" their way up and through that window. Look at the distance between it and the smaller narrow bars below. The main rock was too heavy to have been thrown all that way (and why such a heavy rock) without attracting attention from the road. The point of entry can be plainly seen from the road -- it is not the point a burglar would choose. AK let Guede into that house. RS or AK smashed the window from the inside.

 

[Dan O.]

Dan - a genuine question and I'm not being cheap here: have you read Massei? The computer activity of the morning of 2nd November is primary evidence in the case, detailed in the judge's summary and is uncontested in that it happened by the defence. I'm confused. I rate this together with the received SMS from Raffaele's father (did you get that?) as up there with some of the most problematic evidence in the case against AK & RS.

Source: Massei Report english version: Sections: RAFFAELE SOLLECITO’S ‚MACBOOK PRO‛-MODEL APPLE LAPTOP // THE NON-EXISTENT WEB-BROWSING ACTIVITY ACCORDING TO THE POSTAL POLICE p.299 - p.307.

The fine detail is at the top of p.304. The section from p.307 which is THE TECHNICAL REPORT FROM THE SOLLECITO DEFENCE TEAM CONSULTANTS contains the detail of the 4 second access of the Apple site.

That reminds me of a peeve I have with the PMF translation effort: They went and renumbered the pages as if they were creating a new reference document. I would appreciate it if anyone is providing references to such document that they use the page numbering of the original. This way the same reference will be valid for the original document as well as all translations that preserve the original numbering.


I had searched for strings that looked like dates or times to collect the obvious entries. There may be some that I missed.

The prosecutions claim of non-existent computer activity is similarly recorded as a non-existent record in the timeline. I'll probably add a footnote for this reference to an entry for evidence that there was computer activity through the night when I get that. The goal is not to hide the controversial points but to be able to explore them.


The prosecution's claim of no activity that night is based on two factors: That there were no files with modification time stamps in the period during which the murder took place. And that the ISP did not see HTTP activity on port 80 from this client during the same time period. If Raffaele's activity that night was to review videos for addition to a playlist, it would account for the periodic screensaver activation throughout the night as the defense claims and not leave the types of tracks that the prosecution was limited to searching for. This activity appears to be culminated by saving the playlist, checking the messages on the cell phone and finally going to bed sometime after 6AM. I had missed the time of the creation of the playlist but will be adding it when I have a chance to verify it.


Yes, I have the received SMS but I don't think I have the exact time it was sent. I know I've seen it and remember it was around 11PM .

 

[Chris C]

Nobody climbed up that wall, got up and over the ledge through that window. The wall is blank without any hand-holds. No scuff marks on it. A rusty nail still in place. No traces on the ground. Nobody got through the window - much of the glass still there. No traces of entry -- glass on the ledge not brushed off. No trace of Guede in that room.

There is no way anyone could have "boosted" their way up and through that window. Look at the distance between it and the smaller narrow bars below. The main rock was too heavy to have been thrown all that way (and why such a heavy rock) without attracting attention from the road. The point of entry can be plainly seen from the road -- it is not the point a burglar would choose. AK let Guede into that house. RS or AK smashed the window from the inside.

Could you show us a picture of that wall with no scuff marks. What time did AK and RS let Rudy in?

 

[quadraginta]

Hi Quadraginta,
I enjoyed your earlier posting that gave a few of your own personal experiences in life!

I don't really discuss the window climb in much, since I do not have much experience with 2nd floor windows myself. Not even chasin' chicks, as you very eloquently put it!

However, I feel that a young guy who plays basketball would probably be very athlethic, strong and limber, capable of runnin' fast, havin' good aim and able to jump high for slam dunks.

So it makes sense that a guy such as Rudy with those abilities could indeed throw a rock and then break in thru a 2nd story window. Heck, stranger break-ins have occurred, I'm sure.

See how quickly and easily that gets slipped in?

No matter how many times ... how clearly and concisely ... or how recently I say that this isn't what I am asserting, someone always has to try and redirect the argument into the strawman of whether or not it "could" have been done.

If you want to engage in that particular dispute then you'll need to find someone else who actually disagrees with you.

My belief is that the window would be an unlikely choice in the first place. A very unlikely one, as in utterly ridiculous. But even if someone were to have chosen it there is still the problem of getting through it and leaving it in the state it was found. Yes, that too "could" have been done, but there would have been no reason to do it even if Guede was sufficiently athletic to pull it off. It just wouldn't have been needful. In fact it would have been harder, more dangerous, and a total waste of time.

As I said before, I was on the fence about the staging of the break-in for quite a while. Lacking any more definitive evidence than we had available it had become something of a he said/she said dispute between people who were willing to cut the investigators a little slack, and those who advocated the idea that everyone in Italy is involved in a conspiracy which is simultaneously diabolical and incompetent.

When the pictures of that window sill were posted here (Charlie Wilkes?) that all changed. It was evident to me that no casual burglar had gone through it. Attempts to offer plausible conjectures to the contrary have been increasingly amusing.

Since Rudy Guede was once found to be in possesion of stolen goods from another 2nd floor building that was burgalrized, well I give his chances of B+E thru Filomena's 2nd floor window a lot more weight then the average Joe basketball player. Guilt by association, I suppose...

Here's something else I have wondered about.
When I see that photograph of the guy attemping to climp the window, I've thought why he is doin' it in a suit and dress shoes?
Rudy Guede, in all probability, was not wearingf a suit+tie and dress shoes!

Why didn't the defense just hire an athlethic basketball player of around the same height and build as Rudy Guede and tell him that he makes $50.00 for just trying, BUT a few hundred $$$ if/when he quickly get's inside that 2nd floor window during a night climb test done with the camera's rolling.I bet the guy would have done so!

Just my thoughts on the matter,
Peace,
RWVBWL

Other people have asked this very same question.

Very few of them have been among Knox's defenders.

I know what explanation occurs to me first. Remember, for such an exercise to be useful he would have to do it leaving the same lack of evidence and undisturbed glass on the sill. They wouldn't get to practice. I have a suspicion that the defense would really not rather have the results of that on record.

 

[Dan O.]

Even if he were to share everything he had we would still not have any way of knowing that it encompassed everything that was actually taken.

This is the problem that the defense has with the prosecution not releasing all the evidence. It is however possible in many cased to detect when there are holes.

 

[quadraginta]

This is the problem that the defense has with the prosecution not releasing all the evidence. It is however possible in many cased to detect when there are holes.

Do you know for a fact that we have even seen everything which the defense has?

Aside from halides1's claim about withheld DNA data files (which has never been explicitly supported, but only by inference) just what holes are you referring to?

You say there are "many case". Give us a few examples.

 

[platonov]

That reminds me of a peeve I have with the PMF translation effort: They went and renumbered the pages as if they were creating a new reference document. I would appreciate it if anyone is providing references to such document that they use the page numbering of the original. This way the same reference will be valid for the original document as well as all translations that preserve the original numbering.


I had searched for strings that looked like dates or times to collect the obvious entries. There may be some that I missed.
The prosecutions claim of non-existent computer activity is similarly recorded as a non-existent record in the timeline. I'll probably add a footnote for this reference to an entry for evidence that there was computer activity through the night when I get that. The goal is not to hide the controversial points but to be able to explore them.


The prosecution's claim of no activity that night is based on two factors: That there were no files with modification time stamps in the period during which the murder took place. And that the ISP did not see HTTP activity on port 80 from this client during the same time period. If Raffaele's activity that night was to review videos for addition to a playlist, it would account for the periodic screensaver activation throughout the night as the defense claims and not leave the types of tracks that the prosecution was limited to searching for. This activity appears to be culminated by saving the playlist, checking the messages on the cell phone and finally going to bed sometime after 6AM. I had missed the time of the creation of the playlist but will be adding it when I have a chance to verify it.


Yes, I have the received SMS but I don't think I have the exact time it was sent. I know I've seen it and remember it was around 11PM .

OK, The Randi prize may be back on the table.

I managed to predict (postdict) HERE the part of the timeline that, solely due to pagination (or search) issues, you missed

He might not be convinced however - he will readily believe I hadn't read your timeline, that's more than credible , but it might not be enough.

 

[moodstream]

Hello, new poster here. I have been following the break-in line,
Generally, AFAICT all entry points to the cottage are well hidden at night, and it would be an easy place to burgle. The question of which is the easiest is subjective and probably impossible to decide without a practical test. If the cottage had been thoroughly cased in advance, with knowledge of the Filomena's faulty shutters, and that most of the occupants were out, then Filomena's window would make a decent challenge.

A person standing on a balcony would only arouse suspicion if the witness knew that the person was not a resident. In contrast, someone climbing an outside wall would strike you as quite unusual, if not suspicious.

Burglars are lazy (otherwise they would get a job), and would take the easiest route.

The less suspicious, and easier route, appears to be the balcony, and this is apparently the choice of entry for practicing burglars, so we should conclude that is the "best" entry. We can't really dispute that, since we don't know how well Rudy may have cased the cottage, nor whether experience had made him more proficient or not.

So I would score this as balcony 2, speculation 0.

I think what you said makes a lot of sense. It's tempting but foolish to argue that the break in was staged because, in the light of day, three years on, it seems like another point of entry would have been a better choice for a competent burglar.

The question to be considered is this: is it reasonable to say that Guede could have chosen and accomplished the route through Filomena's window?

It is immaterial if Guede had another option that today somebody thinks would make a better choice. Even if the patio door was always left wide open, and it had a sign over it saying 'Burglar's Entrance', Guede was still free to decide to break in through Filomena's window.

A reasonable argument can be made that Guede could have chosen to break in through Filomena's window: he probably saw the shutters that would not close on prior trips to the house, and so contemplated that route before the opportunity to burglar the house arose,he liked the dark pocket below the window, the ease at which he could flee if discovered (before breaking in), and etc..

The fact that in another person's opinion, yet another way into the house would have been a better choice simply does not bear on the question of whether Rudy Guede entered the cottage by breaking into Filomena's room via her window.

 

[Mary_H]

Is there anyone who has the full original text of Rudy Guede's appeal sentence report?

thanks in advance

Wouldn't you be the one most likely to have the whole original text of anything?

 

[Mary_H]

To all,

LondonJohn has given a reason why Rudi might have wanted to stage a break-in. ChrisC has offered the opinion that Rudi might have entered through the front door after breaking the window. Lunchtime over.

I have always believed Rudy locked Meredith's door and took her phones to prevent her from obtaining help, because he was convinced she was alive when he left her. I am going to suggest the possibility that Rudy threw the rock through the window as he was leaving the property, hoping someone would hear it and call the police to investigate.

This action would express a combination of regret with a desire to get help for Meredith anonymously, plus the belief that it would allow him time to get away before the cops got there.

 

[moodstream]

Nobody climbed up that wall, got up and over the ledge through that window. The wall is blank without any hand-holds. No scuff marks on it. A rusty nail still in place. No traces on the ground. Nobody got through the window - much of the glass still there. No traces of entry -- glass on the ledge not brushed off. No trace of Guede in that room.

There is no way anyone could have "boosted" their way up and through that window. Look at the distance between it and the smaller narrow bars below. The main rock was too heavy to have been thrown all that way (and why such a heavy rock) without attracting attention from the road. The point of entry can be plainly seen from the road -- it is not the point a burglar would choose. AK let Guede into that house. RS or AK smashed the window from the inside.

I have to wonder if you believe there is even one person who will read your comments who is not already aware that you are speaking through your hat. You are free to hold your opinion, of course. Many experts disagree with you, Sargent Pasquali and Ron Hendry http://www.injusticeinperugia.com/RonHendry2-----a.html being just two.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

Certainly it would have been possible to climb the window grate and get up on the balcony, but I don't think it is necessarily easier than Filomena's window. Either would have been easy for someone who was slim and muscular.

I think what you said makes a lot of sense. It's tempting but foolish to argue that the break in was staged because, in the light of day, three years on, it seems like another point of entry would have been a better choice for a competent burglar.

The question to be considered is this: is it reasonable to say that Guede could have chosen and accomplished the route through Filomena's window?

It is immaterial if Guede had another option that today somebody thinks would make a better choice. Even if the patio door was always left wide open, and it had a sign over it saying 'Burglar's Entrance', Guede was still free to decide to break in through Filomena's window.

A reasonable argument can be made that Guede could have chosen to break in through Filomena's window: he probably saw the shutters that would not close on prior trips to the house, and so contemplated that route before the opportunity to burglar the house arose,he liked the dark pocket below the window, the ease at which he could flee if discovered (before breaking in), and etc..

The fact that in another person's opinion, yet another way into the house would have been a better choice simply does not bear on the question of whether Rudy Guede entered the cottage by breaking into Filomena's room via her window.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

I have always believed Rudy locked Meredith's door and took her phones to prevent her from obtaining help, because he was convinced she was alive when he left her.

There is no way he could have not realized she was dead. It would have been very, very obvious from the extent of her injuries and her bleeding. You have to realize what happened. She was down on the floor, with a three-inch gaping hole in her throat, spraying aspirated blood all over the floor and on the wardrobe doors. And then, she sprayed more aspirated blood on the side of the wardrobe, next to where she was found, which proves she was still gasping for breath when she was dragged. And the aspirated blood was also found on her breasts, proving that she was still gasping when her bra was torn off. Within minutes, half the blood in her body had spilled out onto the floor. No way she was going to get up and call for help.

He was probably rattled by what he had just done, which explains why he threw the quilt over her and why he locked the door. As for the phones, who knows. He may have grabbed them on impulse, something easy to pocket, and then realized they could lead the cops right to his door, so he ditched them.

Consider a guy who is amped up on adrenalin because he has just carried out a murder that was completely unplanned, the result of having a young woman walk in on him when he is burglarizing her home. Some of his actions show rational self-interest, and others make no sense.