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Inconceivable Sariras

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I found a stronger evidence about the immortality of body.

Here is a report about Mrs.Zhou Fengchen. Mrs.Zhou is a Buddhist. She was born in 11/2/1905 and passed away in 11/24/1992. After her passed away, her body stop rotting in weeks,then she has a Immortal body.

On 11/15/1997, Experts in the Armed Police General Hospital conducted a comprehensive body examination and electrocardiogram test. The results showed that some of the muscle is still flexible ; and her forehead still exudating oilike liquid; ECG tests also have records of rhythmic fluctuations in curve.(but this may be because the instrument is not grounded)

Professor Ji conjectured the exudating oilike liquid on her head may indicate that her body is still has a slow metabolism.


Ten years later(2007 A.D.), professor Ji extracted a few small muscle samples from her. Test results showed from that slices made of the muscle taken out of the old lady's right leg , experts can not find a living cell, and can not find nucleus or cytoplasm in each cell either, each cell only has an outline.

Expert says this result shows that Mrs.Zhou passed away without any known medical preservative treatment.

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_405f35f10100f59c.html

Here is the video.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/video/2010-08/03/c_12403874.htm

Alternate Address of vedio:
http://www.56.com/u58/v_NTQwNDM4Mzk.html

Is that one acceptable?
 
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High River said:
I found a stronger evidence about the immortality of body.

Here is a report about Mrs.Zhou Fengchen. Mrs.Zhou is a Buddhist. She was born in 11/2/1905 and passed away in 11/24/1992. After her passed away, her body stop rotting in weeks,then she has a Immortal body.
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The blog post isn't written in characters that my computer can read, and I don't do videos.

Bodies that don't decay normally are reported occasionally, even down to the oil being exuded, and it seems to have nothing to do with a person's particular religion, since Catholics clearly aren't considered special to Buddhist believers and vice versa. In my opinion, it's just a rare natural process that religious people draw some great symbolism from.

The sweet smell mentioned in the link in the previous paragraph is something I notice fairly often from some of the dead deer parts that hunters drop along the country roadsides around here. To my untrained nose, it resembles the odor of lactic acid bacteria, which are also present during pickling by fermentation. Lactic acid, quite common and of course able to reproduce under the right conditions of decomposition, is known to produce a variety of different, not-unpleasant odors.

In addition to the usual explanation of saponification for these bodies, I suspect that increasing acidity due to lactobacillus that naturally dominated under just the right conditions, has something to do with it too.
 
High River said:
I found a stronger evidence about the immortality of body.
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the buddha are supposedly trying not to be affixed to things and you marvel at the body. ;)
Here is a report about Mrs.Zhou Fengchen. Mrs.Zhou is a Buddhist. She was born in 11/2/1905 and passed away in 11/24/1992. After her passed away, her body stop rotting in weeks,then she has a Immortal body.
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like i said, they dont want the physical and yet this is your miracle. Build a pyramid and live for thousands of years in your "mass build up".


On 11/15/1997, Experts ........ may indicate that her body is still has a slow metabolism.
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in them climates, no doubt.

I would bet, if any of them monks (before dying) had sex for a few days, their metabolism would increase and perhaps a child could be born so the body left on the earth, would be alive (like cell division).


As for the stones, they could have been consumed to assist in digestion. Many critters do it.

Ten years later(2007 A.D.), professor Ji extracted a few small muscle samples from her. Test results showed from that slices made of the muscle taken out of the old lady's right leg , experts can not find a living cell, and can not find nucleus or cytoplasm in each cell either, each cell only has an outline.
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site that one. As to even have a few milligrams of tissue, that was alive, then died and the nucleus/cytoplasm (organellas within) are all gone, and the tissue is not damaged....................'that would be magic'

Expert says this result shows that Mrs.Zhou passed away without any known medical preservative treatment.
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key word....'known'

I believe they cast many of the old teachers. I even walked into a krishna shop and started talking to one of them.
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Bishadi said:
the buddha are supposedly trying not to be affixed to things and you marvel at the body. ;)
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It's doesn't matter.
In Buddhism theory, "everything" is nothing in actually, so does the "body". But this does not prevent us to appreciate it , as well as appreciating art. :)

Bishadi said:
like i said, they dont want the physical and yet this is your miracle. Build a pyramid and live for thousands of years in your "mass build up".


in them climates, no doubt.

I would bet, if any of them monks (before dying) had sex for a few days, their metabolism would increase and perhaps a child could be born so the body left on the earth, would be alive (like cell division).


As for the stones, they could have been consumed to assist in digestion. Many critters do it.

site that one. As to even have a few milligrams of tissue, that was alive, then died and the nucleus/cytoplasm (organellas within) are all gone, and the tissue is not damaged....................'that would be magic'

key word....'known'

I believe they cast many of the old teachers. I even walked into a krishna shop and started talking to one of them.
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It rarely outcropped a scientific paper that researching the immortal body in Buddhism. And it is remain a mystery for life science.
 
High River said:
It's doesn't matter.
In Buddhism theory, "everything" is nothing in actually, so does the "body". But this does not prevent us to appreciate it , as well as appreciating art. :)
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Sorry the AHB (Alleged Hisorical Buddha) never said that the world wasn't real ,they did state that the self (atman) was an illusion. The AHB acted, taught and encouraged practice that the world was real.
 
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In Buddhism,some senior monks,when cremating,rainbow and thunder will appear in sky;and after cremation they will leave all kinds of sariras.Some sariras are like gems,they are very strong that can not be smashed with a hammer; some have word or a statue above.And a kind of sarira is body sarira.Body sariras do not decay even past hundreds years(like Saint Bernadette); and even fire can not burn. Some body sariras will be gradually reduced or even completely disappeared.

How to explain?

I think human beings are like star beings.Some stars will collapse into white dwarfs;largers will explode as supernova and become neutron stars;and largest giants may become black holes. There maybe microstars in our hearts,they are growing through hard practice,and when they are dying,the energy will release out and then they can do some miracles? I guess...
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Far out man.Pass the bong.
 
High River said:
It's doesn't matter.
In Buddhism theory, "everything" is nothing in actually, so does the "body". But this does not prevent us to appreciate it , as well as appreciating art. :)



It rarely outcropped a scientific paper that researching the immortal body in Buddhism. And it is remain a mystery for life science.
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It is not a mystery,the immortal body does not exist,ergo,nothing to investigate.
 
Scott Haley said:
Here's an English language web page about Zhou Fengchen's body: http://www.xianghe.gov.cn/xh/files/ztlm/qrys/en/life.htm

Her face looks like the face of other mummies that I've seen, with the receded lips.
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From that link, under the expert comments tab:

They considered after investigating the old lady in June, 1993 that it was the constant "vomiting and diarrhea", "cough with sputum" and 'drainage from the body surface" before her death that led to large amount of dehydration. They also held that the site where her body was placed i.e. by the side of a heater in a high room temperature in a dry environment was suitable to the evaporation of water from the body. These are the important reasons for the body to become dry. Like a mummy due to quick dehydration, the phenomenon of un-rotten body is understandable.
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Sounds reasonable. The article also comments on the body's "unusually sweet smell." What a surprise. See my comments about lactic acid bacteria above.

I mean, honestly, this is no more paranormal than making country ham, except it occurred accidentally, naturally, to a human being.
 
Dancing David said:
Sorry the AHB (Alleged Hisorical Buddha) never said that the world wasn't real ,they did state that the self (atman) was an illusion. The AHB acted, taught and encouraged practice that the world was real.
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It seems that I did not explain clearly.My meaning is that things are characterized to "things", but "things" is not really exist.

How can we recognize things? We use characters such as color,smell,taste,sound shape,component,ect. to distinguish things. Then we know this thing is this thing, that thing is that thing.

But in Buddhism theory, something characterized does not exist and characteristics do not exist either.

ETA:http://www.foyuan.net/plus/view.php?aid=96144&pageno=8
Characteristics do not extend to that which has no characteristics; nor to what possesses characteristics. They also cannot extend to something other than what either possesses or does not have characteristics.
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If characteristics do not extend [to something] , something characterized would be impossible. If something characterized is impossible, characteristics too would not exist.
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Therefore, something characterized does not exist and characteristics do not exist. There also does not exist a thing which is apart from being something characterized or a characteristic.
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Therefore, space is not a thing; it is not a non-thing; it is not something characterized; it is not a characteristic. The other five elements too are similar to space.
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Those of small minds see things as existent and non-existent. They do not behold the utter pacification of what is seen.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD2BwwGE9uo

Johnny was a schoolboy
When he heard his first Beatles song
Love me do, I think it was
And from then it didn't take him long

Got himself a guitar
Used to play every night
Now he's in a rock n' roll outfit
And everything's alright, don't you know?

Johnny told his mama
"Hey, mama, I'm goin' away
Gonna hit the big time
Gonna be a big star someday"

Mama came to the door
With a teardrop in her eye
Johnny said, "Don't cry, mama"
Smiled and wave goodbye, don't you know? Yeah

Don't you know that you are a shooting star
Don't you know? Don't you know?
Don't you know that you are a shooting star?
And all the world will love you just as long
As long as you are

Johnny made a record
Went straight up to number one
Suddenly everyone loved
To hear him sing the song

Watchin' the world go by
Surprisin' it goes so fast
Johnny looked around him and said
Well, I made the big-time at last

Don't you know?
Don't you know?

Don't you know that you are a shooting star?
Don't you know? Whoa yeah
Don't you know that you are a shooting star?
And all the world will love you just as long
As long as you are a shooting star

Don't you know that you are a shooting star?
Don't you know?
Don't you know that you are a shooting star?
And all the world will love you just as long
As long as you are

Johnny died one night, died in his bed
Bottle of whisky, sleeping tablets by his head
Johnny's life passed him by like a warm summer day
If you listen to the wind you can still hear him play

Don't you know that you are a shooting star?
Don't you know? Don't you know
Don't you know that you are a shooting star
Don't you know?

Don't you know that you are a shooting star
Don't you know?
 
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dafydd said:
It is not a mystery,the immortal body does not exist,ergo,nothing to investigate.
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There are differences between the ambiguous truths and the truths of the sublime meaning.

ETA:http://www.foyuan.net/plus/view.php?aid=96144&pageno=40
The Dharma taught by Buddhas perfectly relies on two truths: the ambiguous truths of the world and the truths of the sublime meaning.
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Those who do not understand the division into two truths, cannot understand the profound reality of the Buddha’s teaching.
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Without relying on conventions, the sublime meaning cannot be taught. Without understanding the sublime meaning, one will not attain nirvana.
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Those for whom emptiness is possible, for them everything is possible. Those for whom emptiness is not possible, for them everything is not possible.
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I'm sorry that many profound truth is difficult to be explained clearly for my limited knowledge.
 
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See, this is why I would not make a good Buddhist. I'd wonder if they fed the monk something before he died, like pine resin or something - looks like amber.

Question - do women form these wonderful things upon cremation, or is it just the holy men?
 
Let me guess High River; you haven't witnessed any of this yourself but you know it is true cos Buddhists can't lie, right?
 
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