The Great Thermate Debate

superlogicalthinker said:
New NISTexplosions that they were forced to release. Now....I think I hear things exploding, seem like a reason for residue tests don't ya think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2lp4d1GjzE&feature=player_embedded
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Yeah, I hear them.

Can you rule out any of the dozens of things that would go boom after a building has collapsed?

Can you rule out the firefighters' air tanks exploding?

If you can't, you cannot automitcally jump to the conclusion of explosives. Especially considering that the building had just fallen.
 
superlogicalthinker said:
"Rodriguez heard was a backdraft in the elevator shafts We can infer from that that the first one was as well"

LMAO!! A backdraft that could push them upwards, ya right. Must have been from that amazing jet fuel eh? Did the same backdraft cause people to have reconstructive surgery?
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Yes, a backdraft can and will cause someone to be blown back, or up, or whatever. A backdraft is very powerfull.

Can you site your source for this reconstructive surgery you keep talking about? Thanks.
 
triforcharity said:
Yes, a backdraft can and will cause someone to be blown back, or up, or whatever. A backdraft is very powerfull.

Can you site your source for this reconstructive surgery you keep talking about? Thanks.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c3gyprsa9Y

and, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uw-JzViEY4&feature=related

Sounds like alot of smoke and explosions in the Sub 4 basements before the planes hit. You actually think this was from the planes 80 floors above, how could it be, we have someone who was there saying the impact happend after the explosion.;)

"Steel doors that look like paper" from what? Some jet fuel, thats a good one! LOL! We are speaking of the basments, not where the planes hit.
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superlogicalthinker said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c3gyprsa9Y

and, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uw-JzViEY4&feature=related

Sounds like alot of smoke and explosions in the Sub 4 basements before the planes hit. You actually think this was from the planes 80 floors above, how could it be, we have someone who was there saying the impact happend after the explosion.;)

"Steel doors that look like paper" from what? Some jet fuel, thats a good one! LOL! We are speaking of the basments, not where the planes hit.

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Blast induced barotrauma

, Explain its absence
 
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superlogicalthinker said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c3gyprsa9Y

and, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uw-JzViEY4&feature=related

Sounds like alot of smoke and explosions in the Sub 4 basements before the planes hit. You actually think this was from the planes 80 floors above, how could it be, we have someone who was there saying the impact happend after the explosion.;)

"Steel doors that look like paper" from what? Some jet fuel, thats a good one! LOL! We are speaking of the basments, not where the planes hit.

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How could they tell that it was before the plane hit, if they were in the basement?

You do realize sound travels fster through steel, than in air, right?

You also realize the a fuel-air explosion are very powerful, correct?
 
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triforcharity said:
How could they tell that it was before the plane hit, if they were in the basement?

You do realize sound travels fster through steel, than in air, right?

You also realize the a fuel-air explosion are very powerful, correct?
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Sure, but what shook the ground under him? Jet fuel? LMAO!
 
Not just one mistake....

Can you explain the lack of baratraumatic injuries to the two firefighters in the video?
 
superlogicalthinker said:
Nope, nice try, read again, I said nothing of the sort. But, it COULD have been taken out to make sure the building fell smooth and straight, with out stopping and tipping over.
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Nope, definitely not. Off the top of my head, 3 reasons come to mind.

1) Large sections of the core were the last thing to collapse, as seen in multiple videos.

2) The only survivors INSIDE the buildings when they collapsed were in a core staircase.

3) Had the core fallen before the rest of the building, the floors would have pulled the outer walls inward. There is no distortion of the outer walls seen in advance of the top-down collapse.
 
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