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Fonebone said:
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The naked undisguised cruise missile that pierced the WTC1 tower also created
an intense white flash micro-seconds before it pierced
the steel column wall.
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The nose flash was most likely the the crews emergency oxygen supply bottle located in the electrical & equipment room, just aft of the nose gear.

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waypastvne said:
The nose flash was most likely the the crews emergency oxygen supply bottle located in the electrical & equipment room, just aft of the nose gear.

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That would actually make perfect sense. It's been quite some time since i've had aircraft firefighting training, and as such, did not remember that oxygen bottles were stored there.

Thanks!!
 
scott.in.taiwan said:
My school subscribes to Science Direct which owns the paper. It is very technical and hard for me to understand completely. There are some interesting comments in it, though. From the conclusion of the paper,
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Yep. The exterior columns should have been able to stop an airplane wing.
 
WTC Dust said:
Yep. The exterior columns should have been able to stop an airplane wing.
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You appear to be in the minority on this issue. Can you explain what relative expertise you have that will allow me to tend to believe you over structural engineers?
 
triforcharity said:
That would actually make perfect sense. It's been quite some time since i've had aircraft firefighting training, and as such, did not remember that oxygen bottles were stored there.

Thanks!!
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Most people in the world are Airplane Huggers. They think a plane crash is capable of destroying a steel building.


The other people question the Airplane Huggers, but most of them are Thermite Sniffers. They find rust chips in the WTC dust and claim that these rust chips are evidence of exotic thermite.

There is a tiny group of people, a few amateur scientists and only 2 full fledged scientists, who disagree with the Thermite Sniffers.

Almost NO ONE on the planet knows about what I'm talking about. I hope at least some of you tune into the live stream tomorrow at 7PM EST on http://www.ustream.tv/channel/yiptv so you can learn something new you can finally take home to the bank on 9/11.

I'm providing answers to 9/11, which seems strange to JREF debunkers. All you've dealt with before are people asking questions. You'll notice I'm not doing that. I'm telling you what the answer is. I'm solving the 9/11 puzzle.

I don't know where the archive will be at this point, but I'll let you know.



See attached image for the minor destruction seen when an airplane crashed into the Bellaire Towers, here in NYC. Yes, it is a smaller plane, but look at the tiny amount of damage! The Bellaire Towers did not turn into dust, and they discovered most of the plane right at the foot of the building.
 

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WTC Dust said:
Most people in the world are Airplane Huggers. They think a plane crash is capable of destroying a steel building.


The other people question the Airplane Huggers, but most of them are Thermite Sniffers. They find rust chips in the WTC dust and claim that these rust chips are evidence of exotic thermite.

There is a tiny group of people, a few amateur scientists and only 2 full fledged scientists, who disagree with the Thermite Sniffers.

Almost NO ONE on the planet knows about what I'm talking about. I hope at least some of you tune into the live stream tomorrow at 7PM EST on http://www.ustream.tv/channel/yiptv so you can learn something new you can finally take home to the bank on 9/11.

I'm providing answers to 9/11, which seems strange to JREF debunkers. All you've dealt with before are people asking questions. You'll notice I'm not doing that. I'm telling you what the answer is. I'm solving the 9/11 puzzle.

I don't know where the archive will be at this point, but I'll let you know.



See attached image for the minor destruction seen when an airplane crashed into the Bellaire Towers, here in NYC. Yes, it is a smaller plane, but look at the tiny amount of damage! The Bellaire Towers did not turn into dust, and they discovered most of the plane right at the foot of the building.
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How fast was that plane going when it hit the building ? How much fuel was on board ? What is that building made of ?
 
twinstead said:
You appear to be in the minority on this issue. Can you explain what relative expertise you have that will allow me to tend to believe you over structural engineers?
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Expertise is something that can only be achieved with an extended amount of effort.

After 9 years of undergraduate and postgraduate study, I earned my Ph.D. in Biomedical Science in 1999.

I've studied 9/11 for 9 years now, but... I began my 9/11 studies already having earned a doctoral level research degree. I knew much more about science when I began my work on 9/11 than I did when I began my work in biology.

I knew what the practice of science is, as opposed to non-scientists who think they know, before 9/11 happened, and I live near Ground Zero and have lived near Ground Zero for most of the time since the attack.

I know what a darn fire is, okay? I knew what a fire was on 9/11, and there's nobody on this planet who can tell me that was an ordinary fire. It smelled too strange and it lasted too long for it to have been an ordinary fire.

This white stuff coming from Ground Zero lasted and lasted. You could hardly call it a smell, because it was painful to the nose. It was bad stuff. It lasted for years...these fumes just were not a part of the common experience of anyone nearby, and I have been studying them ever since they appeared on the scene.
 

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The fuming from Ground Zero lasted for years. I smelled the fumes coming from the Deutsche Bank in 2009, yes, 2009.

Then what article did I see in the Metro newspaper? Oh, really, they had to stop deconstruction efforts due to the accumulation of "smoke"?

Yay! I'm not imagining things! I actually did smell the fumes more than 8 years after the attacks of 9/11, coming from the Deutsche Bank.

There is no reason to install smoke removal equipment in a building that has been dead for 8 years. And, why would the smoke removal equipment fail? Because it was trying to remove something that wasn't smoke.

You can call me crazy, but that won't address the evidence. The article says they had to stop deconstruction efforts at the Deutsche Bank. I didn't write this article. I just walked by the building every day and wondered why I still smelled the WTC fumes.
 

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WTC Dust said:
After 9 years of undergraduate and postgraduate study, I earned my Ph.D. in Biomedical Science in 1999.
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I'm sure you are a very good biomedical scientist. So, I'll ask my question again: you are in the abject minority among experts in structural engineering. I'm sure the experts who contributed to the NIST Report and others also earned their degrees, and worked very hard on their 9/11 investigation.

Why again should I believe you?
 
cntdrv55 said:
Yeah and my winter jacket stopped a BB shot from a air rifle when I was a kid, so it should definitely stop a 120mm round shot from a m1a1.
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The building didn't turn to dust, and you saw from the smoke that it had caught on fire. And you didn't comment on the fact that they found the pieces of the plane right at the foot of the building.

You probably believe an aluminum airplane can pierce through a set of steel columns without destroying itself, right? Silly wabbit.
 
bill smith said:
It's a shame that the dump truck people were not running the airforce and other agencies that they. They were so fast off the mark that the planes had barely hit before they were in a convoy and on the road..
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Why do truthers think they can just will their ideas into reality?
 
WTC Dust said:
These are questions that presume a plane crash, which is not evident.
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I am talking about the damage you posted a picture of. The small plane. Those question I would like an answer to. You cannot compare the two.

What were those huge things that crashed into the towers then ?
 
twinstead said:
I'm sure you are a very good biomedical scientist. So, I'll ask my question again: you are in the abject minority among experts in structural engineering. I'm sure the experts who contributed to the NIST Report and others also earned their degrees, and worked very hard on their 9/11 investigation.

Why again should I believe you?
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You should believe me because I'm a research scientist, and because engineering isn't a research science. It's an applied science. Getting an engineering degree is very different from getting a research degree.

This isn't to say that some engineers don't get extra training in research, and therefore are themselves research scientists. It's just that engineers are not engaged in the same activities as research scientists.

We describe previously unknown phenomena.

An engineer wouldn't typically have the intellectual tools and experience it takes to do this. They have other tools and do other things. They develop technology, they don't explain the universe.
 
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