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Wikileaks

bill smith said:
You should have included the other part of that exchange. Read exerpt below.

'' So has the spectre been raised of Wikileaks actually being in cahoots with the Americans ?
I guess it's possible. After all the leaks that the government itself lets drop are highly suspect. What better than to have an apparent enemy leaking instead on your secret behalf. The credibility factor is so much higher.''

Do you have the picture now ?
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Once again, Wikileaks, created and run by an Australian.

Australian != American

and if you actually browse Wikileaks, you will see the leaks are not just US. it's just these ones are getting the publicity. When wikileaks released the blacklist for the Australis firewall trials, Australian citizens were threatened with jail for just downloading them, Thankfully common sense came through on that.
 
Has Bill Smith provided any evidence yet, that Wikileaks is an "American operation"?

Oh, right. They have yet to reveal that 9-11 was an inside job. That's pure evidence that Wikileaks is an Illuminati/Zionist/CIA operation.

;)
 
250k documents? Must have been a lot of work to get it all together. That's gonna destroy the NWO Christmas party budget. :(
 
akama1 said:
Once again, Wikileaks, created and run by an Australian.

Australian != American

and if you actually browse Wikileaks, you will see the leaks are not just US. it's just these ones are getting the publicity. When wikileaks released the blacklist for the Australis firewall trials, Australian citizens were threatened with jail for just downloading them, Thankfully common sense came through on that.
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We have all seen that the wikileaks 'revelations' have left the American government entirely unharmed. On the contrary look at one of the massive political advantages that they gained from this most recent load of crap. Several Arab countries want Iran neutralised.

Do you think that the Americans could have leaked that credibly themselves ?
 
Ok so let's see if I have this straight...

If something 'leaks' out that even tangentially supports some 9/11 conspiracy theory then its because of the brave fighters for truth getting this info out.

If on the other hand hundreds of classified gov't correspondances are leaked and there is nothing there to support a 9/11 conspiracy then that is because the leaks are all manufactured.

Are we sure there is no confirmation bias in play here?:rolleyes:
 
bill smith said:
We have all seen that the wikileaks 'revelations' have left the American government entirely unharmed. On the contrary look at one of the massive political advantages that they gained from this most recent load of crap. Several Arab countries want Iran neutralised.

Do you think that the Americans could have leaked that credibly themselves ?
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You mean that not all of the classified material a government possesses is negative information about itself, but can in fact contain information that is beneficial to itself???? This is shocking! I'd better contact a publisher so I can be the first to publish this groundbreaking scoop!
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
I don't think CHF was wondering why there was nothing about 9/11 in this particular leak, but why, in light of such a large leak, nothing about something as serious as an alleged "inside job" regarding 9/11 has already been leaked.
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Thunder said:
Has Bill Smith provided any evidence yet, that Wikileaks is an "American operation"?

Oh, right. They have yet to reveal that 9-11 was an inside job. That's pure evidence that Wikileaks is an Illuminati/Zionist/CIA operation.

;)
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Exactly, bill has an extreme case of confirmation bias and circular reasoning.
 
More and more President Ahmedinejad is cementing his reputation as a keen observer and commentator on world events

TEHRAN — In Iran’s first official reaction to leaked State Department cables quoting Arab leaders as urging the United States to bomb Tehran’s nuclear facilities, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad dismissed the documents as American psychological warfare that would not affect his country’s relations with other nations, news reports said.

The documents seemed to show several Arab nations, notably Saudi Arabia, Iran’s rival for influence in the Persian Gulf, displaying such hostility that King Abdullah repeatedly implored Washington to “cut off the head of the snake” while there was still time.

Nonetheless, Mr. Ahmadinejad said at a news conference on Monday that Iran’s relations with its neighbors would not be damaged by the reports.

“Regional countries are all friends with each other. Such mischief will have no impact on the relations of countries,” he said, according to Reuters.

“Some part of the American government produced these documents,” he said. “We don’t think this information was leaked. We think it was organized to be released on a regular basis and they are pursuing political goals.”
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bill smith said:
I suggest that you look on Google.If you can't find it there very easily then it is being censored.
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Censorship can only be done by governments. And also, if Google doesn't have something you want, that's censorship? Hypocrite pie much?
 
abenja1 said:
Censorship can only be done by governments. And also, if Google doesn't have something you want, that's censorship? Hypocrite pie much?
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I sure had no trouble finding it. It's mostly on CT sited but the SDMB did a thread on it in 2004
 
So, am I to understand that our resident truthers think the USA wants the world (and especially the Arab masses) to know that Sunni Arab leaders are eager for the Americans to strike Iran?

That this somehow bolsters the credibility of such regimes in the eyes of their people and serves to strengthen US influence in the region?
 
Draft the original 'leaker' into a Special Forces unit and drop them off in Afghanistan.
And the Swedish Australian should be prosecuted as an enemy alien.
 
Muhahaha - the actual version of one of the cables being reported as fact

Russia said that during its presentations in Moscow and its comments thus far during the current talks, the U.S. has discussed the BM-25 as an existing system. Russia questioned the basis for this assumption and asked for any facts the U.S. had to provide its existence such as launches, photos etc. For Russia, the BM-25 is a mysterious missile. North Korea has not conducted any tests of this missile, but the U.S. has said that North Korea transferred 19 of these missiles to Iran. It is hard for Russia to follow the logic trail on this. Since Russia has not seen any evidence of this missile being developed or tested, it is hard for Russia to imagine that Iran would buy an untested system. Russia does not understand how a deal would be made for an untested missile. References to the missile's existence are more in the domain of political literature than technical fact. In short, for Russia, there is a question about the existence of this system.
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We have here a snapshot of how American diplomats view the world and the dubious evidence the Great Satan throws up being reported as fact - in some ways it is almost in their interests to leak this database
 
CHF said:
Granted, most of the info I've hear about from Wikileaks isn't really news (the Saudis support Al Qaeda??? No way!) but it is amazing that hundreds of thousands of secret US cables are now being released.

Strangely, there's still nothing about 9/11 being an inside job. No informants, no guilt-stricken conspirators, no whistleblowers...NOTHING.

Any truthers care to speculate why?
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bill smith said:
An answer from a previous Wiki thread will suffice..

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6226652&postcount=48
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You mean the quote in the OP from that thread, Bill.

From Assange himself:

"I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud."
 
Orphia Nay said:
You mean the quote in the OP from that thread, Bill.

From Assange himself:

"I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud."
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Well Orphia, if Assange IS a Shill for the Americans would you really expect him to say anything else ?

Interesting and dextremely useful leak for the Americans today I note. A nice little wedge was driven in between China and North Korea.

With enemies like Wikileaks who needs friends. lol
 
bill smith said:
Well Orphia, if Assange IS a Shill for the Americans would you really expect him to say anything else ?
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Circular logic rocks!

Face it, bill - you hate Assange because he actually does what you pretend to do.
 
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