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Wikileaks is an enemy of the United States

deepatrax said:
Let me clarify that...

The release of classified State Department documents is illegal. The act of obtaining those documents is illegal under U.S. Law...now since Assange is not a U.S. citizen, but IS the conduit through which those documents are being funneled, he should be held accountable because it puts U.S. lives and National Security at risk.

The Americans leaking the information should be prosecuted

And the Non-Americans who are blatantly using that information in an effort to cripple the U.S. and put lives at risk should be dealt with...in one way or another. I'm not talking about the Guardian or the NYT,etc...I'm talking about the people who are initiating these leaks get out into the public. If they won't listen to reason, and people's lives are at risk, they their life should be put at risk also.
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So Assange did not break any laws? If he did, specifically which law did he break? I mean, you're advocating his murder. And if he didn't break laws, then surely you also support the murder of Rush and Palin, right? As long as we can deem them also putting lives "at risk". Palin just this week had the temerity to undermine the First Lady's attempt to get kids to eat healthy foods. Not eating healthy foods "puts lives at risk". Therefore you're advocating the CIA assassination of Palin. Rush was instrumental in the Iraq War propaganda. That got almost 5000 Americans killed. So you're also advocating his murder. I say these people: Assange, Rush, Palin, Hannity, etc. should not be murdered without a trial or having broken laws. You have a rather radical world view.
 
if Assange is indeed putting American lives at risk, are you ok with that?

how should we stop him? cutting off his Roadrunner account?
 
Unabogie said:
So people think he should just be murdered for publishing documents? So, undermining the US Government using nothing but information is a capital crime? Can we also execute Rush, Beck, Hannity, Murdoch, and Palin too?

Just checking who's eligible for this kind of murder, and who isn't? I'm new to this.
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The question of course is who actually undermined the US Government. Was it the government official who said or did something bad, believing nobody would find out? Or was it the person who exposed him?

On a related note, who undermined the Catholic Church? Was it the priest who took sexual advantage of a young boy? The bishop who covered it up for him? Or the victim's brother who three decades later exposed it all?

If the US government starts murdering its officials who were responsible for the actions that now embarass it, that would certainly cut down on the deficit by reducing government-salaries.
 
Unabogie said:
So Assange did not break any laws? If he did, specifically which law did he break? I mean, you're advocating his murder. And if he didn't break laws, then surely you also support the murder of Rush and Palin, right? As long as we can deem them also putting lives "at risk". Palin just this week had the temerity to undermine the First Lady's attempt to get kids to eat healthy foods. Not eating healthy foods "puts lives at risk". Therefore you're advocating the CIA assassination of Palin. Rush was instrumental in the Iraq War propaganda. That got almost 5000 Americans killed. So you're also advocating his murder. I say these people: Assange, Rush, Palin, Hannity, etc. should not be murdered without a trial or having broken laws. You have a rather radical world view.
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wow...lol...you completely missed the point again.

Look I understand, you apparently have a disdain for the U.S...but let's be reasonable here.

Rush's comments aren't putting anyone's life at risk.

The release of classified documents does put American informants, etc lives at risk.

Rush is not a U.S. National Security risk.

The release of classified documents is.

Assange is not an American. We have no legal jurisdiction under U.S. law to prosecute him.

We do however, have the ability to act against those who are enemies of the U.S....through other means if necessary.

I know this is gonna come as a shocker to you, but the CIA is in the business of doing MANY things considered illegal by other nations. In fact, almost ALL nations do the same...when it's in their best interest.

The CIA spies. Spying is considered illegal by most nations. So what...we still do it. The CIA has killed people. That is considered illegal by most nations also...but we do it when our elected politicians consider it's in our best interests to do so.

I'm not trying to take a legal high ground here...I'm just looking out for the best interest of the U.S.
 
possession of classified documents that were stolen, is a crime.

im sure releasing classified stolen documents to the general public, is also a crime.

there are legal ways of getting classified info. Assange chose other routes.

at the very least, we should put out a warrent for his arrest. as should Interpol.

should the FCC close Wikileaks in the USA? sure why not.

....not that it would do any good.
 
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I find it disturbing that some are advocating murder as the solution to this issue.
 
Thunder said:
possession of classified documents that were stolen, is a crime.

im sure releasing classified stolen documents to the general public, is also a crime.

there are legal ways of getting classified info. Assange chose other routes.

at the very least, we should put out a warrent for his arrest. as should Interpol.
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Which crime did he commit, personally? You realize that if he had broken laws, he'd have been charged with something by now, don't you? He hasn't broken any laws. Anyone who wants him murdered is saying that a law abiding citizen should be murdered for publishing information deemed private by governments.
 
I have to wonder if it's the fact that these are classified documents being leaked that is causing people to be angry. Or maybe it's the fact that the information is showing a very disturbing trend in America's military decisions and tactics.
 
egslim said:
The question of course is who actually undermined the US Government. Was it the government official who said or did something bad, believing nobody would find out? Or was it the person who exposed him?

On a related note, who undermined the Catholic Church? Was it the priest who took sexual advantage of a young boy? The bishop who covered it up for him? Or the victim's brother who three decades later exposed it all?

If the US government starts murdering its officials who were responsible for the actions that now embarass it, that would certainly cut down on the deficit by reducing government-salaries.
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From what I've seen so far, nothing in the release is a "bad" act...it's merely the U.S. acting in it's own best interests.

The bad act is the release of classified documents...and the Americans responsible should be prosecuted.

The conduit for the continued release, the non-American Assange, has been repeatedly asked to reconsider. And this has repeatedly failed. So there are other options for enemies of the U.S.
 
possession of stolen classified documents is a crime.

I'm sure the release of stolen classified documents to unauthorized personnel, is also a crime.

Assange should be barred from entering any country that his releases harms.

the USA, UK, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc etc.
 
Thunder said:
possession of stolen classified documents is a crime.

I'm sure the release of stolen classified documents to unauthorized personnel, is also a crime.

Assange should be barred from entering any country that his releases harms.

the USA, UK, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc etc.
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Newspapers can publish what they want. That's why the New York times and the BBC are also publishing these documents. So Assange has not broken any laws. Will you at least admit this point? He cannot be prosecuted for this? Right?
 
Thunder said:
possession of stolen classified documents is a crime.

I'm sure the release of stolen classified documents to unauthorized personnel, is also a crime.

Assange should be barred from entering any country that his releases harms.

the USA, UK, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc etc.
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Newspapers have on more than one occasion published details from documents deemed classified, if it's in the interest of the public. A lot of good has come out of this. But I guess the editors of these newspapers should've been murd, no sorry, target assassinated as well?
 
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