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Continuation - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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halides1 said:
Alt+F4,

Based upon his statements in two Irish newspapers last March, I would not be surprised to see Dr. Hampikian.
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Well that's good, so when they lose the appeal no one can say they didn't have proper experts testifying for their case.

It will just be based on crappy lawyering.
 
Alt+F4 said:
Well that's good, so when they lose the appeal no one can say they didn't have proper experts testifying for their case.

It will just be based on crappy lawyering.
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Still waiting on a answer about the contamination issue with the bra clasp. How did the extra DNA get there if there was no contamination?

Lets see.
1. Bra clasp is contaminated.
2. Murderer(s) left it there.
3 Happened before the murder. Don't remember her friends mentioning taking off meredith's bra at their movie night. Must be 1 or 2.
 
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Alt+F4 said:
You haven't read the appeal either.
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So only people that are italian and read italian can actually read the appeal? So everytime someone quotes the Massei report the response should be unless you speak and read italian you haven't read it?
 
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Chris C said:
Still waiting on a answer about the contamination issue with the bra clasp. How did the extra DNA get there if there was no contamination?
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Again Chris...it was left there by either the mobster's brother and/or the mystery man the baby killer spoke of.
 
Alt+F4 said:
I also am curious to see what new expert witnesses the defense will present when they are given the opportunity to. Do you think perhaps the authors of the "open letter" will be there?

The reason why I don't think the defense is pursuing a contamination strategy is because the appeals mention Alessi and Aviello. Why do you think their statements were mentioned, if not to suggest the unknown DNA belongs to them?
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I get the impression from what I've read that they've decided on a 'full court press' strategy of challenging everything.
 
RoseMontague said:
Yes. That is my understanding. I have not the time to find the cites for it at present as I will be out most of the day.
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Ah, ok. That's what I recall as well. If that is the case then the introduction of the murderers statements becomes even more confusing.
 
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Again Chris...it was left there by either the mobster's brother and/or the mystery man the baby killer spoke of.
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What baby killer or mobster. No one has read the appeals that doesn't read italian. This is my last response to you. You refuse to give an actual answer. Please dont respond to anymore of my posts because I won't be able to read yours unless you give an honest answer.
 
Alt+F4 said:
That is for the jury to decide. That is the whole point of being a jurist, they accept some evidence, they reject others.

Having been on jury duty before (and maybe going again for federal in December...yikes!) I can tell you that I made my deliberation based on the evidence and testimony presented. Do you have evidence that the jury in this case didn't do the same thing?
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What evidence and testimony have you seen that suggests Raffaele and Amanda committed this crime? If I recall correctly, the theory of the crime you posted didn't rely on much of anything in this regard.
 
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RoseMontague said:
Yes. That is my understanding. I have not the time to find the cites for it at present as I will be out most of the day.
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RoseMontague,

I am not sure that there are three separate profiles, but there are definitely alleles that cannot be attributed to Raffaele or Meredith.
 
Information overload.

halides1 said:
No, you still have it wrong. And you still have not answered all of my questions.

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The Daily Mail Online wrote, "They have also seized on the trial judge’s inclusion of a mystery second knife in his ruling which he said was the one which inflicted the fatal wounds on Miss Kercher."
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Your boggling my mind - not in a good way.
How can I have it wrong when I asked a question.

It seems that my original point was correct - i.e. its a very weak point in the appeal. But I'll need a couple of weeks to carefully analyze a single line from the Mail to be sure.
Unless you want to link to or quote the relevant part of the appeal doc in English.

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Alt+F4 said:
Yikes, and I thought that trying intoduce the testimony of the baby killer and the mobster was bad. Now Amanda's defense is so pathetic that they have to haul out, after three years, a friend she had from the third grade? Really, this is what they have to resort to?
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I'm guessing that you didn't get the whole point of my post.....

(The point - just so you know - was that various people were citing Knox's apparent lack of long-time friends willing to stand up for her as some sort of proof of her "personality disorder". And yet now here comes an old friend who's seemingly very happy to vouch for Knox. I personally don't care much about what Knox's friends have to say about her - but plenty of other people certainly seemed to draw inferences (ridiculous inferences) from the people around her.)
 
halides1 said:
RoseMontague,

I am not sure that there are three separate profiles, but there are definitely alleles that cannot be attributed to Raffaele or Meredith.
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Was this conclusive or was this Tagliabracci's interpretation/hypothesis?

I remember vaguely that Stefanoni testified to an allele/s that was not compatible but I am not sure what piece of evidence she was referring to or if I am confused and thinking of something else.
 
Alt+F4 said:
Yikes, and I thought that trying intoduce the testimony of the baby killer and the mobster was bad. Now Amanda's defense is so pathetic that they have to haul out, after three years, a friend she had from the third grade? Really, this is what they have to resort to?
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Oh, and I'd hold fire on that whole "Amanda's defence is so pathetic" angle if I were you as well. Those remarks might turn out to look somewhat stupid.
 
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