Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

[joobz]

And some might know Christianity is growing in China and Africa. Unfortunately this is not the case in the US and Europe -- funny how that phenomenon is happening concurrently with what appears to be the decline of the US and Europe (economically and prestige-wise) on the world stage.

Shall I assume that you view the end of slavery and the establishment of equal rights as part of the decline?

ETA:
IF you really beleive what you say, why not move to China?

 

[DOC]

Well Doc,which Christian sect is the right one?..

The bible doesn't say, but it does say in Romans: 10:9

'If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."

I think several denominations might have some special revelation or knowledge about some particular single aspect of Christianity but I think most are part of the same so called "Body of Christ" or "The Church". I think being in one denomination over another is not going to keep you from going to heaven if you believe "Jesus is Lord".

Christ said I am the vine and you are the "branches". He didn't say I am the vine and you are the branch.

 

[Akhenaten]

And some might know Christianity is growing in China and Africa. Unfortunately this is not the case in the US and Europe -- funny how that phenomenon is happening concurrently with what appears to be the decline of the US and Europe (economically and prestige-wise) on the world stage.

Shall I assume that you view the end of slavery and the establishment of equal rights as part of the decline?

ETA:
IF you really beleive what you say, why not move to China?

The way he's been digging I'm surprised he's not there already.

 

[Garrette]

And some might know Christianity is growing in China and Africa. Unfortunately this is not the case in the US and Europe -- funny how that phenomenon is happening concurrently with what appears to be the decline of the US and Europe (economically and prestige-wise) on the world stage.

I knew this was coming (seriously; the arguments are easily predictable).

So for you, DOC, when Islam is growing in Europe (according to you), it isn't evidence that Islam is true, even when Islam is not shrinking in the Middle East or Indonesia or elsewhere.

Yet for you, DOC, when Christianity is growing in China and Africa, it is evidence that Christianity is true, even when Christianity is shrinking in Europe and has already been the least of the three monotheistic religions in the land of its birth.

Your pleading really isn't all that special; it's just sad.

 

[Agatha]

The way he's been digging I'm surprised he's not there already.

That really deserved a ba-dum-tish.

 

[zooterkin]

I think several denominations might have some special revelation or knowledge about some particular single aspect of Christianity

Really? Can you give some examples? Can we judge which revelations or knowledge is true by counting the martyrs?

but I think most are part of the same so called "Body of Christ" or "The Church". I think being in one denomination over another is not going to keep you from going to heaven if you believe "Jesus is Lord".

Even when they believe conflicting things? Does the law of non-contradiction not apply?

 

[Akhenaten]

Well Doc,which Christian sect is the right one?..

The bible doesn't say . . .

What a ridiculous thing to say, DOC.*

Why would the Bible be looked to as a source for the answer to such a question when it predates almost all modern sects/denominations?

The question was asked of you, DOC. How did you decide which is the true church?

Christ said I am the vine and you are the "branches". He didn't say I am the vine and you are the branch.

So the alleged Jesus was behind the schism of 1054 was he? And the Reformation?

Are you seriously suggesting that both sides in both of these major split-ups of Christianity were right???

Forget China, DOC. Northern Ireland needs you.



* Made all the more ridiculous by the fact that you've so far failed to deliver on the promise of the OP to provide one whit of evidence that the whole NT from which you're preaching at us isn't a complete pack of lies.

 

[dafydd]

And some might know Christianity is growing in China and Africa. Unfortunatelyfortunately this is not the case in the US and Europe -- funny how that phenomenon is happening concurrently with what appears to be the decline of the US and Europe (economically and prestige-wise) on the world stage.

ftfy

 

[dafydd]

The bible doesn't say, but it does say in Romans: 10:9

'If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."

I think several denominations might have some special revelation or knowledge about some particular single aspect of Christianity but I think most are part of the same so called "Body of Christ" or "The Church". I think being in one denomination over another is not going to keep you from going to heaven if you believe "Jesus is Lord".

Christ said I am the vine and you are the "branches". He didn't say I am the vine and you are the branch.

Why are you so coy about which church you belong to? It's not one of those African ones that torture children,is it?

 

[Mojo]

Well Doc,which Christian sect is the right one?..

The bible doesn't say...

It's very simple, DOC: which sect do YOU think is the right one?

Are you a member of this sect, or will you burn in the hellfire?

 

[Akhenaten]

You could not be more wrong.

Prove it! Spell it out or get off this thread.

GB

Agreed. I think maatorc needs to either explain this arcane drivel in the context of 'evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth' or naff off and start another thread in which it won't be quite so irrelevant.

 

[Lothian]

the decline of the US and Europe (economically and prestige-wise) on the world stage.

Talking of European Economic decline.
Have you noticed that the PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) who have caused the European crisis are amongst the most Christian countries in Europe while the countries with less belief in God are having to bail them out.

 

[wollery]

...now that India is becoming more modern who knows what can happen. Maybe many of them will start to look to a religion with one God and not thousands (or millions) of gods

You've had it pointed out to you several times that the "millions" of Hindu gods are just different facets of the same god. Hinduism is actually monotheistic.

You either have an appallingly bad memory, or you are a liar.

Which is it DOC?

 

[amb]

The bible doesn't say, but it does say in Romans: 10:9

'If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."

I think several denominations might have some special revelation or knowledge about some particular single aspect of Christianity but I think most are part of the same so called "Body of Christ" or "The Church". I think being in one denomination over another is not going to keep you from going to heaven if you believe "Jesus is Lord".

Christ said I am the vine and you are the "branches". He didn't say I am the vine and you are the branch.

That rules out over one billion catholics, for they believe in a trinity. Three gods, not one Jeebus the lard.

 

[zooterkin]

Why are you so coy about which church you belong to? It's not one of those African ones that torture children,is it?

There was a suggestion that if DOC stood for Disciple of Christ, then he could be a Jehovah's witness as there is a JW using that name on other forums. Alternatively, there is a sect called "Disciples of Christ".

 

[Craig4]

Any bible based Church that believes Christ is who he said he was, pre existent, claiming to come down from heaven with the power to forgive sins and to give eternal life to those who believe in him.

http://www.everystudent.com/wires/whodoyousay.html

And a church which believes he died for the sins of the world and was raised from the dead which proved his divinity. Also a church based on no other text like Mormonism or has a non-biblical concept of God.

So we are ignoring the minor issue of a lack of proof as to this whole resurrection thingy? You have yet to establish that the natural laws can be or ever have been suspended.

 

[Craig4]

Well there is most likely "some" truth in all religions, but how many other religions do you know has enough evidence to fuel a thread like this one.

This entire thread has been an exercise to get you to supply evidence. What you provide isn't good enough.

 

[Cleon]

I'm baffled too why DOC doesn't come forward which denomination he adheres to. It's almost as if he denies his Lord. Or is this a Christian version of taqiyya?

So I ask you again, DOC: which denomination do you belong to?

Did I already hear a rooster crow?

In the past, DOC has posted gushingly about the Catholic Church; I always assumed he was Catholic.

 

[Akhenaten]

In the past, DOC has posted gushingly about the Catholic Church; I always assumed he was Catholic.

My guess as well, for the same reason.

 

[dafydd]

When will this thread get a long service medal?