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Truthers are Troublemakers...

dc1971

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Truthers are conspiracy theorists, plain and simple.

Truthers are also troublemakers - Internet troublemakers. Their actions can be summed up by way of a paragraph lifted from the pages of Debunking 9/11 Myths (yes - the very well written, well resourced book written by the staff of Popular Mechanics), which says:

In the early days of the Internet, some commentators worried that material posted online would be ephemeral. In fact the opposite is true. On the Internet, errors can last forever – repeated, cross-referenced, and passed from site to site in an endless daisy chain. The essentially nonchronological nature of the Internet contributes to this phenomenon. Many postings don’t have dates, so it is difficult for readers to see what information has been disproven or superseded. Mainstream journalism makes at least an attempt to correct mistakes and prevent them from being repeated in later stories. This conspiracy movement prefers a see-what-sticks approach: Throw everything against the wall, and keep throwing (Meigs, 2006).
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Truthers take advantage of the fact that whatever is posted on the internet is there to stay. How many times have I attempted a search engine for a legitimate political topic and receive a list of conspiracy theorist websites? A good example of this would be to do a search for “Henry Kissinger New World Order” and see what you get! Here’s what returned for me: http://tinyurl.com/39dz7hq

There are other examples of CT’s mischief. There’s the Mythbusters forum! My guess is that Truthers were bombarding this forum with ridiculous “9/11 Was an Inside Job” remarks and posting YouTube videos and this is what led forum moderators to do the following…

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9701967776/m/7951972999

Another example of the “keep repeating and see what sticks” technique would be the endless barrage of comments posted on various YouTube 9/11 videos…

http://tinyurl.com/24ewjac

...as well as the endless barrage of Truther videos that have been posted ad nauseam since 2006! Doing a search on YouTube for “9/11” will return a colossal quantity of misinformation. IMO, I would say YouTube is the hallmark of the “KR & SWS” technique!

Some fascinating yet disturbing examples of Truther mischief can also be seen here…




Then there is the king of all troublemakers…

http://www.infowars.com/

…and his minions…

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/

And of course, you can always get a taste of Truther mayhem by just perusing the JREF Conspiracy Theories sub forum! :D

And so I ask – Is there a reasonable approach to alleviating such mischief on the Internet? Truthers really aren’t harming anyone, are they? Could be… http://tinyurl.com/2g9yg6b

In any case, there is a point where you draw the line and say enough is enough. It’s reasonable that people have concerns and want to express their opinions. But when those opinions get so much to the point that you cannot even post a message on a forum (see Mythbusters example above), it’s ridiculous!

I think a simple statement would be to tell Truthers to simply KNOCK IT OFF! Other members of JREF have suggested just ignoring them which is another excellent idea!

Reference:
Meigs, J. (2006). Repetition. In B. R. David Dunbar, Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand up to the Facts (pp. 98-99). New York: Hearst Books.
 
Your post is Truther chum (meaning it will attract truthers who will take it as a personal assault). For everyone else you're preaching to the choir. Ignore IS the best response to truthers. Without an audience most truthers wither and fade away.
 
applecorped said:
Your post is Truther chum (meaning it will attract truthers who will take it as a personal assault). For everyone else you're preaching to the choir. Ignore IS the best response to truthers. Without an audience most truthers wither and fade away.
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Yes, there's no convincing them, I agree!
 
dc1971 said:
Yes, there's no convincing them, I agree!
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You could always consider consulting us about the kind of deep digging independent enquiry we want- and will have. Why don't you start a thread on that subject and we will explore the ways that the government can possibly explain their way out of their complicity in 9/11.

You don't have to do that of course if you don't want to..
 
bill smith said:
You could always consider consulting us about the kind of deep digging independent enquiry we want- and will have. Why don't you start a thread on that subject and we will explore the ways that the government can possibly explain their way out of their complicity in 9/11.

You don't have to do that of course if you don't want to..
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I'm already very well aware of your consulting techniques, my dear!
 
Truthers are also creepy. The combination of stupidity, ignorance and delusion is very disconcerting. It make you wonder just how they function in the real world.
 
"Truthers are Troublemakers"


My question is, who are you addressing this to? Everyone who isn't a truther knows that already, and I expect the Truthers see themselves the same way. Of course, they think they're "troublemakers" for the NWO, who are running scared of the truthers, when in fact, all they're doing is annoying regular people on the Internet. But I imagine that they see every forum they're banned from as some sort of "victory" against the "shills" they think they're fighting.
 
bill smith said:
the kind of deep digging independent enquiry we want- and will have...
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You're no TellTaleTom, that's for sure, but an entertaining parody,still. I enjoy the lulz, you provide with every post!

Worth three.



Keep up the good work, of making Twoofers look so ridiculous! ;)
 
leftysergeant said:
Ermmm...NO!

For the same reason you don't dig for coal in pre-Cambrian rock.
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That's very NISTian Sarge. It sounds just like what the NIST spokesman told the reporter (Paraphrased)

'Why would we look for evidence of explosives when we already know that there were none ? '

lol
 
Ok, Bill. I'm not opposed to a new investigation. I don't have to pay for it either way, as I'm not a US taxpayer, so go for it. In fact, it kind of bothers me that you haven't already begun, given how many legitimate scientists you claim to have in your ranks. Let's start by defining the investigation:

- Who should pay for it?
- Who should participate in it (i.e, who should the investigators be)?
- Under who's authority should it be conducted?
- Who should grant it subpoena power?
- How should it present it's results?
- If the investigation comes to the same conclusions as the last one, would you accept it? (I know you've already said you wouldn't, Bill, but this is for real twoofers.)
 
bill smith said:
That's very NISTian Sarge. It sounds just like what the NIST spokesman told the reporter (Paraphrased)

'Why would we look for evidence of explosives when we already know that there were none ? '

lol
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You sure are hung up on NIST. You will be putting them in jail when you take over in your idiotic claims Rus revolution of stupid, a jump back to the middle ages. You post lies about 911 and you missed the investigations. NIST is only one part of 911.

There were no explosives, and they know because no steel had blast effects and anyway, the morons at 911 truth are into thermite, and it was not fused to the steel. You guys only impact will be as fools who lack knowledge and skills to understand 911. Evidence free, and unable to comprehend physics in any form. With a solid 9 years of failure behind you, infinite failure is a lock.

911 truth, the movement of lies and delusions, the anti-intellectual movement perpetuated by people making money off of fools. But orders of magnitude below the big fraud of the recent housing market melt down and wall street fraud; Madoff beats 911 truth by billions, Gage is pulling in 100 to 200 k telling lies, Madoff was doing almost a billion a year, 10,000 times better at fraud than 911 truth. 911 truth has failed at fraud, has no knowledge on 911 issues, and failed to understand 911.

911 truth failures at truth, failures at fraud; they can't do much but post lies. Celebrating over 9 years of evidence free crying for a new investigation they will fail to comprehend.
 
bill smith said:
That's very NISTian Sarge. It sounds just like what the NIST spokesman told the reporter (Paraphrased)

'Why would we look for evidence of explosives when we already know that there were none ? '

lol
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Well... tell me, why would they look for explosives?
 
uke2se said:
Ok, Bill. I'm not opposed to a new investigation. I don't have to pay for it either way, as I'm not a US taxpayer, so go for it. In fact, it kind of bothers me that you haven't already begun, given how many legitimate scientists you claim to have in your ranks. Let's start by defining the investigation:

- Who should pay for it?
- Who should participate in it (i.e, who should the investigators be)?
- Under who's authority should it be conducted?
- Who should grant it subpoena power?
- How should it present it's results?
- If the investigation comes to the same conclusions as the last one, would you accept it? (I know you've already said you wouldn't, Bill, but this is for real twoofers.)
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I think you posted these questions before elsewhere? Gee, how long does it take Bill to answer a question?
 
dc1971 said:
I think you posted these questions before elsewhere? Gee, how long does it take Bill to answer a question?
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Well, we know that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. If you're waiting for a straight answer, however, please realize that bill likes to take the roundabout route.
 
bill smith said:
You could always consider consulting us about the kind of deep digging independent enquiry we want- and will have. Why don't you start a thread on that subject and we will explore the ways that the government can possibly explain their way out of their complicity in 9/11.

You don't have to do that of course if you don't want to..
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You just skimmed on the OP didn't you?


That you didn't read the OP did you?
 
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sheeplesnshills said:
Truthers are also creepy. The combination of stupidity, ignorance and delusion is very disconcerting. It make you wonder just how they function in the real world.
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I scare myself sometimes thinking that as each generation reaches adulthood, society is faced with an even larger group of people not receiving proper education. I believe we're only going to see more of this foolish conspiracy theorist behavior, but the types of people involved with such behavior are going to possess only a 2nd grade education level.
 
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