Merged No Planes At WTC (Split from: WTC Dust)

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WTC Dust said:

NOT WITHOUT DESTROYING ITSELF IN THE PROCESS!!!!


You're paying attention to what happened to the building, instead of what should have happened to the "plane".

A plane flying into a building will create damage to the building, but it will wreck itself in the process. What's missing in the 9:03AM videos is damage to the "plane". No plane crash? No plane. No plane? No hijacking. No hijacking? No ObL.
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Can you see what is happening inside the building? I bet the plane is being shredded to pieces.
 
excaza said:
You'll be hard-pressed to find material properties that support your conclusion that a bird is stronger than aluminum. But, if you can find them, please share!
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Pretty good proof that birdflesh is stronger than aluminum.
 

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DGM said:
It did! Pieces even came out the other side of the buildings. This too you will ignore.
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This "plane" didn't crash on the other side of the building. It was said to have crashed at the south face of WTC 2. If the collision happened there, the crash would have been in evidence there.

Physics doesn't wait to happen. At the instant any plane crashes into any strong solid object, the plane begins to decelerate, crumple, twist, and fall apart into debris. Not later. INSTANTANEOUS has a real life meaning. There is no delay.

And let's pretend that an aluminum airplane is strong enough to fully withstand an impact with huge steel beams....why would you then say that the inner steel beams were enough to stop it?

Objects do not change their strength from one moment to the next. Either the airplane would have been stopped by steel, or it wouldn't have been, and since birdflesh can damage an airplane, thick steel beams can damage an airplane.

No debris bouncing back off the south face of WTC 2? No plane crash.
 
DGM said:
It did! Pieces even came out the other side of the buildings. This too you will ignore.
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The "plane" didn't crash into the other side of the building. It was said to have crashed into the south face of WTC 2.
 
Who says the aircraft weren't damaged? They were completely destroyed as is the anti tank warhead. In that case it is the disintegration of the warhead into fragments and their combustion that kills the crew in the tank and detonates the ammunition stowed aboard.

I ask again where did the aircraft go? where are the passengers and crews?
The aircraft existed and their records go back to their construction and include pilots log books, engineering records and the logs of the engineers and technicians who have worked on them over the years. People who were on the flights are missing and their DNA was recoverd from the crash sites. Families, friends and work colleagues will tell you these people are missing.

Your 'dustification' is insane enough without denying the aircraft as well.
 
WTC Dust said:
This "plane" didn't crash on the other side of the building. It was said to have crashed at the south face of WTC 2. If the collision happened there, the crash would have been in evidence there.

Physics doesn't wait to happen. At the instant any plane crashes into any strong solid object, the plane begins to decelerate, crumple, twist, and fall apart into debris. Not later. INSTANTANEOUS has a real life meaning. There is no delay.

And let's pretend that an aluminum airplane is strong enough to fully withstand an impact with huge steel beams....why would you then say that the inner steel beams were enough to stop it?

Objects do not change their strength from one moment to the next. Either the airplane would have been stopped by steel, or it wouldn't have been, and since birdflesh can damage an airplane, thick steel beams can damage an airplane.

No debris bouncing back off the south face of WTC 2? No plane crash.
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Inertia. You might want to look it up some time. Fascinating "new physics".

:rolleyes:
 
WTC Dust said:
This "plane" didn't crash on the other side of the building. It was said to have crashed at the south face of WTC 2. If the collision happened there, the crash would have been in evidence there.

Physics doesn't wait to happen. At the instant any plane crashes into any strong solid object, the plane begins to decelerate, crumple, twist, and fall apart into debris. Not later. INSTANTANEOUS has a real life meaning. There is no delay.

And let's pretend that an aluminum airplane is strong enough to fully withstand an impact with huge steel beams....why would you then say that the inner steel beams were enough to stop it?

Objects do not change their strength from one moment to the next. Either the airplane would have been stopped by steel, or it wouldn't have been, and since birdflesh can damage an airplane, thick steel beams can damage an airplane.

No debris bouncing back off the south face of WTC 2? No plane crash.
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Am I right in thinking that you do not think that the answer is in the following video ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNXmgF2yAEc
 
Can I cut a lump of aluminium with a chicken leg?

Can I cut a chicken leg with aluminium.

As for the plane not hitting the other side of the building. We know that but any pieces of the plane that went through an unobstructed part of the building interior would carry on out the opposite side.

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DGM said:
Dude? Wow dude, look at the pictures of the gnarly nose gear that landed next to St Nicks church. (I'm 51, I'm no longer cool enough to be called "dude")
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So you agree that when you use water to cut steel, the water splashes backwards?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Who says the aircraft weren't damaged? They were completely destroyed as is the anti tank warhead. In that case it is the disintegration of the warhead into fragments and their combustion that kills the crew in the tank and detonates the ammunition stowed aboard.

I ask again where did the aircraft go? where are the passengers and crews?
The aircraft existed and their records go back to their construction and include pilots log books, engineering records and the logs of the engineers and technicians who have worked on them over the years. People who were on the flights are missing and their DNA was recoverd from the crash sites. Families, friends and work colleagues will tell you these people are missing.

Your 'dustification' is insane enough without denying the aircraft as well.
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There is no evidence that a plane was damaged by an impact in the 9:03AM videos.
 
Unsecured Coins said:
And this is where I come in. Hi. I'm Jaye Powers, former Staff Sergeant, united states army (1994 - 2009), MOS 19K30K4.
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Jaye, It's to bad "they" never told you you were never in any danger. After all you tank (M-1 Abrams if I recall) weighed much more then anything that was being shot at it.


:rolleyes:
 
Just to add. Aluminium used in aricraft construction is actualy an alloy, it can be made quite hard. Aluminium is laso used as the armour on the US M113 APC, the US Sheridan tank and the British Scorpio / Scimitar family of tanks and APCs.

WHy do you think that is if it can't stop a chicken?
 
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