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Continuation - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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Originally Posted by RoseMontague View Post
This is amazing. It now seems that the current theory has 2 other people involved (now a total of 3) in Sarah Scazzi's death. And there is that whole cell phone tower thing again (thanks for your imput DanO). And a rather large rock.

http://translate.google.com/translat...no-sabrina.php

ETA: The comments are a must read to get a feel for the opinion in Italy on this case.


Rose,

At least one of the people commenting on the case suggested that it was Sabrina, not her father, who killed her, then her father was obliged to help her. This person has concocted a story based on no evidence whatsoever. In this I see a parallel with the Knox/Sollecito case.

The comments are really scary. It seems even the public is not giving Sabrina the benefit of a presumption of innocence. The police theories are already through the looking glass in my opinion, and the media seem to be interested in promoting the most sensational scenario they can possibly imagine.
 
Is there a reason you feel the need to restrict yourself? You should branch out and see if you can find a few errors of fact or logic in the Massei report.

Errors of fact or logic? The Massei report is the modern Organon. Well atleast thats what guilters want you to believe.
 
Here is a "news" report on Amanda's latest works of art. For some reason I am reminded of that statement analysis fellow:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3205243/Weird-jail-pics-by-murderer-Knox.html

Expert Jane added: "Looking at the hands, it's interesting that the third finger is longer than the first. This denotes high levels of testosterone which can cause people to have dominant and aggressive personalities."

Jane: (Insert Dan Aykroyd quote here)

Just incredible.
 
I agree. Let's limit it to only those who mistakenly think they're experts.

I mean between the statement analysis guy and this new painting analysis guy surely they must be an expert.

Though everytime I think of that statement analysis guy I get a mental picture of Tobias from arrested devolpment when he describes his profession as analrapist.
 
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RoseMontague,

From the article you linked, Jane is quoted, "Red is the colour of anger and frustration, and the blue which we see on her arms can represent a coldness.
"The use of red and yellow on her arms suggests she is not in control of herself."

Which color does not have a negative connotation? I think that purple must be the color of cold anger, and...
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...jail-pics-by-murderer-Knox.html#ixzz141u1BxSQ
 
We're in a transitional period, sam; give it time. This isn't the optimal moment to point to attacks on "differing views," because at this moment, differing views are few and far between. Most of them are finding voice in the posts of platonov, and that voice speaks in tongues.

The guilter movement is dead in the water. The largest source of arguments and debate has folded its tent, like the Arabs, and as quietly stolen away. Meanwhile, Peter Quennell continues to write, "It is reported...," meaning he is the only one reporting it.

Change is inevitable, as they say. We are starting to focus more on examining how the defense team will present its appeal. Personally, I would love to see more discussion on how to draw enough attention to the appeal that the judges are forced to acquit this time, although the movies that are in progress are already contributing to that goal.

I'm sorry but what planet are you on?
 
RoseMontague,

From the article you linked, Jane is quoted, "Red is the colour of anger and frustration, and the blue which we see on her arms can represent a coldness.
"The use of red and yellow on her arms suggests she is not in control of herself."

Which color does not have a negative connotation? I think that purple must be the color of cold anger, and...
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...jail-pics-by-murderer-Knox.html#ixzz141u1BxSQ


:D:D:D!!!

In my professional opinion, the colors she chose to use indicate the colors of the markers she had.
 
Amnesty Intenational report on Federico Aldrovandi

"Italy continued to lack an effective police accountability mechanism…On 19 October, the trial against four police officers accused of voluntary manslaughter of Federico Aldrovandi began. Federico Aldrovandi died on 25 September 2005 after being stopped by four police officers in Ferrara. During the pre-trial investigations blood samples taken at the place of Federico Aldrovandi’s death disappeared and then re-emerged, and records of phone calls to emergency services the night of his death were tampered with."
http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/italy/report-2008

This report from Amnesty International in 2008 refutes any potential claim to the effect that evidence tampering in Italy never happens. Moreover, the first sentence quoted above suggests that this is not a problem of a few bad apples.
 
They might have gotten it from handling something he had touched, or coughed over. I have posted guidelines for handling DNA evidence - "avoid touching the area where you believe DNA may exist."

Meredith's room (and indeed the whole cottage) had been trashed by earlier waves of investigators, so another possibility is that this thing was stepped on by someone who had a minute quantity of Raffaele's DNA the sole of his or her shoe. I can't prove contamination. I can only prove that the evidence was mishandled to the point that contamination was entirely possible.

Charlie is there a photo of the bra (not the clasp)? Do you know what description was given to the part of the bra which the hooks of the clasp fastened into?
 
Thanks Charlie! As always, your posts are to the point and easy to understand. Now from a guilter's standpoint, where do AK & RS come into play? I've heard "they may not have stabbed her, but they were involved". This would seem to be the natural response to the "absence of evidence". After all, seems like there would be forensics that would easily point to their physical involvement. OK...so how were they otherwise involved?

The Massei case, for all its faults, was at least forced to lay its cards on the table and try to make a coherent story.

The guilters who go for the "they may not have stabbed her, but they were involved" line don't have to try. As far as I can tell they just point to the collection of usual whack-a-moles that supposedly point to Knox and Sollecito's guilt and say "I am incredulous of the idea that they could have (said X)(done Y) yet not be guilty, therefore they are guilty, even if I have no idea why they did it, or when, or how they could possibly have actually done so".
 
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