WTC dust

[leftysergeant]

For a start civilians wouldn't have been allowed there.

Just anopther example of your banging on about things of which you know nothing.

 

[twinstead]

Just anopther example of your banging on about things of which you know nothing.

Bill would NEVER do that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[excaza]

How does one make steel "dust" anyway? Was there a giant grinder? A laser would melt it...

 

[dtugg]

How does one make steel "dust" anyway? Was there a giant grinder? A laser would melt it...

She won't tell us unless we admit that the WTC was dustified. So we are at an impasse and the truth about what happened to the WTC will forever remain a secret.

 

[ozeco41]

How does one make steel "dust" anyway? Was there a giant grinder? A laser would melt it...

Isn't it one level lower than that?

Like what is "steel dust"?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Steel Dust is big business for the steel industry.

There are industrial uses for steel and iron in fine particulate form

http://www.iron-powder.com/default.asp?count=1

Steel Mills and Smelters produce a lot of dust. It is recycled to reclaim Zink and Iron. During the production of stainless steel iron, between 30 and 70 kg of dust and fine waste is generated
per ton of steel.

http://www.bateman.co.za/TECHNOLOGY/EAF_STAINLESS_STEEL_DUST_PROCESSING.pdf

http://www.globalsteeldust.com/

http://steeldust.com/

 

[jammonius]

WTC Dust and Bill,

You guys are doing a very good job in confirming there's too little steel remaining to support the supposed 'collapse' claim. Those who claim otherwise have not got any viable evidence to support the lack of steel or other soid debris from 289 stories of steel buildings.

Needless to say, there is no official explanation that anyone can rely on as NIST simply did not investigate the disaappearance of the WTC complex. The only viable, valid explanation of what happened to them is that published by Dr. Judy Wood.

Indeed, the process of deducing what happened to the WTC complex may well be said to begin with the fact that the buildings did largely vanish into dust and into very little solid debris remaining after a mere 10sec +/- interval of annihilation.

Debunkers will, of course, quibble with 'dust' and quibble with '10secs' and quibble with this, that or the other. But, what debunkers will not do is provide you with a validly conducted investigatory source for their claims.

You two, on the other hand, can rely on the evidence, proof and logic put forward by Dr. Judy Wood.

Virtually all aspects of the discussion being had in this thread can find a page, section, segment or portion of Dr. Wood's website that addresses each aspect of the discussion, including, of course, the lack of a sufficient remnant steel and steel beams and the turning of the buildings into dust, as was seen and as was confirmed by the paucity of what remained.

Bill, you are quite right, you can literally count the number of beams remaining and you can see that GZ was flat, too.

all the best

 

[dtugg]

WTC Dust and Bill,

You guys are doing a very good job in confirming there's too little steel remaining to support the supposed 'collapse' claim. Those who claim otherwise have not got any viable evidence to support the lack of steel or other soid debris from 289 stories of steel buildings.

Needless to say, there is no official explanation that anyone can rely on as NIST simply did not investigate the disaappearance of the WTC complex. The only viable, valid explanation of what happened to them is that published by Dr. Judy Wood.

Indeed, the process of deducing what happened to the WTC complex may well be said to begin with the fact that the buildings did largely vanish into dust and into very little solid debris remaining after a mere 10sec +/- interval of annihilation.

Debunkers will, of course, quibble with 'dust' and quibble with '10secs' and quibble with this, that or the other. But, what debunkers will not do is provide you with a validly conducted investigatory source for their claims.

You two, on the other hand, can rely on the evidence, proof and logic put forward by Dr. Judy Wood.

all the best

X infinity

 

[Andy_Ross]

IF the steel had turned into dust and disappeared does that mean that the Chinese Steel companies that are supposed to have bought many thousands of tons of the steel in on the conspiracy as well? or were they sent different scrap steel to cover up the lack of steel from 9/11 ?

 

[Andy_Ross]

 

[A W Smith]

WTC Dust and Bill,

You guys are doing a very good job in confirming there's too little steel remaining to support the supposed 'collapse' claim. Those who claim otherwise have not got any viable evidence to support the lack of steel or other soid debris from 289 stories of steel buildings.

Needless to say, there is no official explanation that anyone can rely on as NIST simply did not investigate the disaappearance of the WTC complex. The only viable, valid explanation of what happened to them is that published by Dr. Judy Wood.

Indeed, the process of deducing what happened to the WTC complex may well be said to begin with the fact that the buildings did largely vanish into dust and into very little solid debris remaining after a mere 10sec +/- interval of annihilation.

Debunkers will, of course, quibble with 'dust' and quibble with '10secs' and quibble with this, that or the other. But, what debunkers will not do is provide you with a validly conducted investigatory source for their claims.

You two, on the other hand, can rely on the evidence, proof and logic put forward by Dr. Judy Wood.

Virtually all aspects of the discussion being had in this thread can find a page, section, segment or portion of Dr. Wood's website that addresses each aspect of the discussion, including, of course, the lack of a sufficient remnant steel and steel beams and the turning of the buildings into dust, as was seen and as was confirmed by the paucity of what remained.

Bill, you are quite right, you can literally count the number of beams remaining and you can see that GZ was flat, too.

all the best

The weight of steel expected for the entire complex was 350,000 tons. In volume at 490lbs per cubic foot by my calculations its 52910 cubic yards of steel. If you were to pour it into a single ingot, it would only be a cube of steel 113 feet per side.

 

[dtugg]

The weight of steel expected for the entire complex was 350,000 tons. In volume at 490lbs per cubic foot by my calculations its 52910 cubic yards of steel. If you were to pour it into a single ingot, it would only be a cube of steel 113 feet per side.

Math, smath. Probably an NWO invention anyway. The pile looks too small to me, therefore, it is. Therefore almost all the steel is missing. Therefore it was dustified using a giant space laser. QED

 

[TjW]

Math, smath. Probably an NWO invention anyway. The pile looks too small to me, therefore, it is. Therefore almost all the steel is missing. Therefore it was dustified using a giant space laser. QED

It's hard to argue against logic like that.

 

[Thunder]

Bill, you are quite right, you can literally count the number of beams remaining and you can see that GZ was flat, too.

Um...today is Halloween...not April Fool's.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Maybe the steel vaporized in somebody's dream...

 

[alienentity]

Further to what A W Smith has stated about the volume of steel, and what Triforcharity has linked to (the Philips and Jordan document), at least 200,000 tons of steel had been accounted for (35,000 tons of steel had been recovered at FreshKills and 165,000 tons were removed directly at Ground Zero)

According to this interactive graphic from the NYTimes, floor-by-floor assessments of the WTC basement levels by Mueser Rutledge Consulting Engineers showed that the areas down to basement level 6 directly below each tower suffered 'collapse or heavy damage'

I've never seen this interactive doc before, you can click the grey tabs on this WTC basement damage report to see each level.
Also, to the right of the page there is a pulldown menu with some amazing graphics, for example this one on the 'bathtub'; this one on subway tunnel damage.
Also of much interest is this one on the Clearing of Debris; in particular I note the comment 'Debris from this collapse [North Tower] also punched into the 1/9 subway tunnel below.' and 'Debris from the north tower plunged straight through the center of the Customs House, creating a hole stretching into the basement.', and under 'Next Steps' 'South Tower -
The debris pile has shrunk but much remains compressed underground. '

When you put together the evidence of huge masses of collapsing tower material - the crushing of other buildings, the collapse of subway tunnels, the collapse of multiple levels of basement - you immediately understand that the 'dustification' claims do not fit the evidence.
Clearly there is evidence of collapsed tower material in the sub-basement areas, explaining why the debris pile didn't just begin at the visible 'ground' level; but since WTC Dust's mentor Judy Wood literally refuses to accept that the towers 'collapsed', preferring the term 'went away' or 'went poof', and the material dissipated into the atmosphere or showered lower Manhattan, the 'dustification' theory simply cannot square with the physical evidence. Specifically the evidence of the mass of debris impacting the WTC site and the mass of steel documented as being recovered from the site.
For those reasons alone the theory should be discarded as a non-starter. Nevermind the myriad problems with the inability of Dr Wood and her acolytes to provide any burden of proof for the science of their theory.

 

[bill smith]

I wonder how that ambulance got onto ground zero while WTC7 was still burning. I guess there must have been a magical path left open between the mountains of rubble, eh debunkers ?

 

[Justin39640]

I wonder how that ambulance got onto ground zero while WTC7 was still burning. I guess there must have been a magical path left open between the mountains of rubble, eh debunkers ?

7WTC is across the street from ground zero... get a map.

 

[triforcharity]

I wonder how that ambulance got onto ground zero while WTC7 was still burning. I guess there must have been a magical path left open between the mountains of rubble, eh debunkers ?

From the South maybe? Or maybe from the west?

 

[excaza]

I wonder how that ambulance got onto ground zero while WTC7 was still burning. I guess there must have been a magical path left open between the mountains of rubble, eh debunkers ?

Maybe the orbital death cannon had a tractor beam too.


Or maybe it just drove there...