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WTC Dust said:
You are somewhat getting close, but what you fail to mention is the new physics she discusses.
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No, she does not discuss any new physics.She merely makes vague claims about there being some as of yet unknown stuff.
She does, however, discuss old physics, on her "billiard balls" page, and does so with so many gross errors that any 10th-grader will quickly spot her total ineptness. Considering that she once managed to receive an engineering degree, which would be near impossible without the most basic understanding og mechanics, it stands to reason that she is indeed mentally ill.
 
WTC Dust said:
Her case made it all the way to the US Supreme Court, and Dr. Wood's work up to that point is on record. I call that a win.
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This is what happens if you stuff it in an envelope, write a correct address on it, stamp it and mail it: It makes it all the way to the addressee.

Give the postal service credit, not Judy.
 
Oystein said:
Considering that she once managed to receive an engineering degree, which would be near impossible without the most basic understanding of mechanics, it stands to reason that she is indeed mentally ill.
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as are all that respect her "theories".

hell, even Truthers consider Woods and her followers to be mentally ill. if not disinfo agents.
 
triforcharity said:
Considering the amoun of trees and plants in and around GZ, that is most likely the origins of the orange smoke.
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And, given that it collapsed before lunch time, a lot of salads, sandwiches, fresh fruit and veggie sticks, just in what people brown-bagged to lunch. We aren't even looking into the walk-in fridge at the restruaunt on the top floor.
 
WTC Dust said:
I'm actually working on getting my results published, so stay tuned....
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As a preview, care to outline your theory? Some words on the physics... I expect that paper will include some quantitative data, such as the amount of steel and dust involved, the amount of energy transferred, right?
it will also explain by what physical principal steel gets dustified, and you will describe actual experiments that show how this works, or you will reference other published scientific papers that prove how steel can get dustified by directed energy. right?
I am asking, because that is what it would take to make Judy's ideas worthy of consideration, and is, lamentably, the stuff that is entirely missing from her website.
 
WTC Dust said:
...I hope you understand that I'm not going to do any calculations on theories that obviously don't work...
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This might be the reason why Judy Wood refuses to calculate the energy required and available to turn lots of concrete into dust.

Where she does run calculations, she gets them terribly wrong (e.g. "billiard balls" page).
Where you do run calculations, you get them terribly wrong (e.g. expected hight of rubble pile).

Obviously, your theories don't work.
 
Originally Posted by WTC Dust
I'm actually working on getting my results published, so stay tuned....

and what was the reply from Marvel Comics?

:p
 
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Arus808 said:
11 pages people!! really, you're giving credit to someoen who is pushing JUDY WOOD"S story!!!

YOU guys are better than that!
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^^this. Honestly, I saw that it was still going, and was going to go back and quote Arus808's first admonition, but here was a fresh one.

:woo
 
carlitos said:
^^this. Honestly, I saw that it was still going, and was going to go back and quote Arus808's first admonition, but here was a fresh one.

:woo
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And there was me thinking that you and Arus were the same person all along.lol
 
WTC Dust --

Thank you for responding. I'm not on this subforum often and the thread has doubled since my last entry.

WTC Dust said:
1. My primary field of research has been 9/11 for these past years. I am independent.
2. I have met Dr. Wood.
3. I have been interested in her work since 2005.
4. Sure.
5. Yes.
6. Yes.
7. No. I'm not going to do extra work for no reason. Gravity didn't do it. That has been proved years ago.
8. Same answer.

These questions were not intrusive, but I hope you understand that I'm not going to do any calculations on theories that obviously don't work. I'll do calculations to refine a theory that might work, but doing calculations willy nilly just because someone asked me to is not worth my time. Why don't you do the calculations? I'll discuss your results with you.
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I have some follow-up questions if that's alright.

5a, 6a. If the debris below street level and outside the footprint was considered, does this impact the expected height of the pile?
7a, 8a. You're right, I shouldn't be asking for extra work. The thrust of my question was that you saw that the pile was too small and the dust cloud too large for a gravity collapse, and I was wondering how big you would expect them to be if that was the case. Perhaps when you answer you could give your reason verbally rather than mathematically, that would be great.

Thank you.

WTC Dust said:
I haven't earned any money from my 9/11 research. I earn money from other research, but that just pays the bills. It's not what drives me.
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I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I intended to ask what type of research you do for a living.
 
leftysergeant said:
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Sorry, I should have looked longer at the page you linked.
WTC Dust said:
http://howitwasdone911.blogspot.com/2010/10/first-anniversary-of-911.html
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Thanks, I needed that.

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Yo, peeps! Did you see that picture at the top right comparing the shape of the dust plumes to Gauss lines?

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I do not know who WTC Dust is, but many of the ideas propsed here have been suggested on the blog 'Dr Judy Wood's Science' which is operated by Tracy Postert
http://drjudywood.blogspot.com/
Tracy Postert apparently does have a real PhD. I am not sure what it's in, but I suspect it's something related to biological sciences.

I have talked with Dr. Posert about these ideas and why they are problematic. I have asked why, with all that iron floating around NY, we aren't hearing stories of iron toxicity? She replied to me that iron is an essential part of our diet. Like WTC Dust, she claims to have inhaled dust from the WTC attacks on 911. I have asked her why she did not suffer from iron toxicity when she inhaled what she claims is a dust cloud composed of iron. She has not clarified this point and now has banned me from her Facebook.

My understanding is that Dr. Postert is involved in marijuana research, although I have been unable to find any scholarly papers on the subject published by her. Unlike WTC Dust, Tracy Posert seems to be quite close to Judy Woods, and recently reported on her Facebook she had had consulted her about a new explanation for a no-planes-and-fire theory of collapse she has for the 911 attacks.

By the way, Judy Wood's petition has been rejected by the Supreme Court
http://doyoueverwonderblog.wordpress.com/2010/04/03/supreme-court-denies-judy-woods-qui-tam-suit/
 
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scott.in.taiwan said:
I do not know who WTC Dust is, but many of the ideas propsed here have been suggested on the blog 'Dr Judy Wood's Science' which is operated by Tracy Postert
http://drjudywood.blogspot.com/
Tracy Postert apparently does have a real PhD. I am not sure what it's in, but I suspect it's something related to biological sciences.

I have talked with Dr. Posert about these ideas and why they are problematic. I have asked why, with all that iron floating around NY, we aren't hearing stories of iron toxicity? She replied to me that iron is an essential part of our diet.
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For what it's worth, exposure to steel dust is a health problem for subway workers. I wonder if 100 years of subways in lower Manhattan hasn't contributed to the level of steel dust.(Wouldn't steel dust be quickly converted to iron oxide?)

Steel dust in the New York City subway system as a source of manganese, chromium, and iron exposures for transit workers

Abstract
The United States Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 reflected increasing concern about potential effects of low-level airborne metal exposure on a wide array of illnesses. Here we summarize results demonstrating that the New York City (NYC) subway system provides an important microenvironment for metal exposures for NYC commuters and subway workers and also describe an ongoing pilot study of NYC transit workers’ exposure to steel dust. Results from the TEACH (Toxic Exposure Assessment, a Columbia and Harvard) study in 1999 of 41 high-school students strongly suggest that elevated levels of iron, manganese, and chromium in personal air samples were due to exposure to steel dust in the NYC subway. Airborne concentrations of these three metals associated with fine particulate matter were observed to be more than 100 times greater in the subway environment than in home indoor or outdoor settings in NYC. While there are currently no known health effects at the airborne levels observed in the subway system, the primary aim of the ongoing pilot study is to ascertain whether the levels of these metals in the subway air affect concentrations of these metals or related metabolites in the blood or urine of exposed transit workers, who due to their job activities could plausibly have appreciably higher exposures than typical commuters. The study design involves recruitment of 40 transit workers representing a large range in expected exposures to steel dust, the collection of personal air samples of fine particulate matter, and the collection of blood and urine samples from each monitored transit worker.

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WTC Dust and Tracy Postert: Separated at Birthers?

'Tracy Postert: Daniel, You aren't a research scientist, that much is clear. I did get close to Ground Zero. Very close. On September 14, 2001, I walked straight up to the site and got within a hundred feet or so of the disaster area. The fence was only a block away from Ground Zero.

I'm not saying they took the steel to China. Other people said that fiction, not me.
July 24 at 4:39am'
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=379066314418&id=771645494&ref=share

'What I try to do on a daily or almost daily basis is think really, really hard about what actually might have happened, because I really want to know exactly what happened.'


'I don't want to talk to people who are stuck in 2001. Nothing about an office fire can take down a steel building (whether or not it was weakened by an airplane crash). Please go talk to someone else.'

'. I don't have time to talk to plane huggers. You are almost 9 years behind the times, and I'm a cutting edge researcher'

Yup. Scott.In.Taiwan nailed it. The peculiar brand of Woo fits.:rolleyes:
 
alienentity said:
WTC Dust and Tracy Postert: Separated at Birthers?

'Tracy Postert: Daniel, You aren't a research scientist, that much is clear. I did get close to Ground Zero. Very close. On September 14, 2001, I walked straight up to the site and got within a hundred feet or so of the disaster area. The fence was only a block away from Ground Zero.

I'm not saying they took the steel to China. Other people said that fiction, not me.
July 24 at 4:39am'
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=379066314418&id=771645494&ref=share

'What I try to do on a daily or almost daily basis is think really, really hard about what actually might have happened, because I really want to know exactly what happened.'


'I don't want to talk to people who are stuck in 2001. Nothing about an office fire can take down a steel building (whether or not it was weakened by an airplane crash). Please go talk to someone else.'

'. I don't have time to talk to plane huggers. You are almost 9 years behind the times, and I'm a cutting edge researcher'

Yup. Scott.In.Taiwan nailed it. The peculiar brand of Woo fits.:rolleyes:
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I think we got a winner!!!! Though we of course could be wrong.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=12710271&id=771645494

such cute pink doggies!!!! :)
 
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BigAl said:
For what it's worth, exposure to steel dust is a health problem for subway workers. I wonder if 100 years of subways in lower Manhattan hasn't contributed to the level of steel dust.(Wouldn't steel dust be quickly converted to iron oxide?)
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Sure, why wouldn't it be?

Not to mention the fact that there were main PATH lines under the WTC that were destroyed.

Makes sense to me. Certainly seems plausible.
 
Can't find out yet what Tracy Postert Blevin's PhD is, I did find a conversation between her and Jim Fetzer here;

ETA if WTC Dust really is TPB then why not post under that name? It seems she does everywhere else, and is proud of her views. Why so coy if that's the case? The arguments are nonexistent and the ideas are nutty, no matter which name you post them under, and they're also already public.
 
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