Continuation - NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

This will be the new meme with them for a while...the new angle on the Pentagon will be this document. When there are only a few straws left to grasp, you take which ever one presents itself.

TAM:)
 
16.5 said:
Awww, now i has a sad.
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Don't be. His link to the FOIA on LCF is to 911myths. I suppose Staples was closed when he ended his shift. Guess they don't have access to comparable equipment at NSA Central.

Really - any Truther who may have followed his hilarious and immature exchange with Gamolon at the IckyForum and still has the impression that he is an analyst with NSA is as utter a loon as Ultima is.
 
Björn Toulouse said:
Don't be. His link to the FOIA on LCF is to 911myths. I suppose ]Staples[/URL] was closed when he ended his shift. Guess they don't have access to comparable equipment at NSA Central.

Really - any Truther who may have followed his hilarious and immature exchange with Gamolon at the IckyForum and still has the impression that he is an analyst with NSA is as utter a loon as Ultima is.
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If he was, he ended up divulging information that was in the CRITIC before it became declassified and released. He said in the ATS forums that he had read it a while back while he "worked" at the NSA as an analyst.

This is a blatant COMSEC violation and a bad one at that. There is no way the man works for the NSA and is stupid enough to divulge loads of personal information and that he read a supposed document that shows flight 93 was intercepted that was deemed classified.

First off, it doesn't show Flight93 was intercepted.
Second, he was basing his theory off of a stupid internet rumor by Wayne Madsen.

And finally, if the NSA did hire him, he's has to be the stupidest analyst they've ever hired. What analyst willingly divulges classified information? You have to realize before this document was released it had to go through a process and be reviewed to see what info was deemed not dangerous enough to national security to made public. So by him telling us the contents of the message before it was released, he was divulging or at least corroborating the content within the document to the public, most of which does not have clearances I assume.

The guy is a fraud.
 
I see Ultima never bothered to post what he got.

He is linking to the one at 911 Myths.

I did note this following incomprehensible comment from brownshirt LCF mod, and borderline lunatic JFK:

"I noticed that he (16.5) was not bragging about this at the JERF forum during the time this was uploaded to the 911 myths server... Which was Thursday October 7th, 2010 @ 17:38:50 GMT, which was 4 days prior to this thread existing."

lol wut

What a putz.
 
Typical twoofer fashion.
ULATIMA1 who claimed the CRITIC showed evidence flight93 was shot down as referenced at ATS (just google his name flight 93 shot down.) is now maintaining he never said Flight93 was shot down.

He also has changed his story from "it proves flight 93 was intercepted" to "it proves a flight was intercepted".

Can't keep his own lies straight....
 
scrummie02 said:
Typical twoofer fashion.
ULATIMA1 who claimed the CRITIC showed evidence flight93 was shot down as referenced at ATS (just google his name flight 93 shot down.) is now maintaining he never said Flight93 was shot down.

He also has changed his story from "it proves flight 93 was intercepted" to "it proves a flight was intercepted".

Can't keep his own lies straight....
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ATS?
He did it here too. Bolds mine.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125479
Originally Posted by Totovader
In the mean time, can you "poist" what it is that will supposedly be "contridicted"...
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Well the official story states that no planes (intercepters) were near flight 93.

This document will show that Flight 93 was intercepted by fighters and possibly shot down.


Originally Posted by madurobob
I'm very curious to know just what you think you have there.
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Well i filed an FOIA request to get a declassified verstion of a Critc that was posted on 9/11/2001about FLight 93 (the only Critic that day from NSA).

The FOIA office stated in the letter that they have the Critic (document) and will be sending it out.


Originally Posted by 16.5
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Learn how to write a broad FOIA request next time.
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Why do i need to write a broad FOIA request when i was asking for a specific document, the document they have stated they have and are sending?
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Originally Posted by Arus808
so, seeing that you dont know what it says, how can you make such stupid claims in the first place
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But i do know what i says. I have read the document, thats why i filed a FOIA to get it.
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ULTIMA1 said:
But i do know what i says. I have read the document, thats why i filed a FOIA to get it.
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Does anyone know if the material ULTIMA received in the FOIA response contains more information than what he claims to have originally read?
 
Björn Toulouse said:
Does anyone know if the material ULTIMA received in the FOIA response contains more information than what he claims to have originally read?
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Interestingly, it contain both more information, and less than he originally claimed. More, in that it has some statements indicating confusion about which plane had impacted the Pentagon, and less, in that there's nothing about flight 93 being intercepted. There is mention of an unidentified plane out of JFK being intercepted, but from context, it's clear that this was not discussing flight 93.
 
You have to remember, the NSA was getting it's information from the "Press" and the FAA. Both of which were passing faulty information that day.

While I was in the AF, we were under the impression there was at least a fifth plane in the air and speculated it could have been heading to any of the following locations:
WH
Capitol
DIA
NSA
Various monuments.

In the early parts of the attack information was vague at best. If the USAF had intercepted a plane, they would have confirmed this fact and they have not.

The other major point is he continually stated it was proof Flight 93 was shot down and he knew this by reading it. We know this to be false now and if there was any reasonable doubt Ultima1 is a liar, this should be to rest any of those doubts.
 
Oh, I agree completely. The point is, not only was he wrong or lying about what wasn't there, he was also wrong or lying about what was there. If he really had read this particular document years ago, why didn't he mention any of the other stuff?
 
Typical twoofer fashion. He's now claiming the document we have isn't the real document. It doesn't show the same information. Of course he would know that..being an NSA agent and all..

"The unclassifeed documet does not have that exact information, but it does state that an un numbered plane was intecepted.[sic]"


Does this guy live in a complete fantasy world? I've never seen anyone like this.
 
Horatius said:
There is mention of an unidentified plane out of JFK being intercepted, but from context, it's clear that this was not discussing flight 93.
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"Intercepted" does not always mean "shot down," especially in pre-9/11 documents. Itcould also mean "escorted to a secured field."

Like Cleaveland.
 
leftysergeant said:
"Intercepted" does not always mean "shot down," especially in pre-9/11 documents. Itcould also mean "escorted to a secured field."

Like Cleaveland.
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Except there is no evidence that took place. The USAF/ANG has never came out saying this happened, neither has the NSA in any later reports.
 
newton3376 said:
I think what we witnessed on 9/11 was a failure of several of the intelligence agencies (there are actually about 17) to communicate effectively with each other....a problem that persists to this day.
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I would have to agree. Failure to communicate effectively and a lot of incompetence on all sides.

Norad had their radar in the shape of a doughnut. No one bothered to suggest that they should possibly track a terrorist inside of america, they were only concerned with the outside of it.

I wonder if Norad is fixing the problem?

I do know that these agencies are definitely looking to fix these communication barriers. Sucks that it took 911 in order to get this looked at!
 
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