aggle-rithm
Ardent Formulist
Hello from a non-skeptic
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(smile) It was wasn't it?
Lothian
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Was that around the time I asked you to name the book containing the chapter called ""YOU ARE NOT CLEOPATRA" which was at the centre of your story relating your psychic abilities.
Seems my 'psychic' prediction that you wouldn't do it was correct.
Funny that, don't you think? My psychic prediction can be checked and proved to have come true. Yours on the other hand lies in tatters.
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
Why? So that your ludicrous . . . theories will make sense? That seems a little counter-intuitive to me.
To the extent that this is true, so what? It's what the beliefs are based on that matters. Likelihood is always a good basis.
For instance, it's quite likely that the Sun will rise tommorrow so it's perfectly reasonable to believe this will happen.
It's quite unlikelely that you can predict lottery numbers and it would be completely unreasonabe for anyone, including yourself, to believe such a thing.
How do you tell the difference between the real ones and the synthetic ones?
Are you psychic or something?
I just knew there'd be quantums involved.
Speaking of likelihood . . .
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I'm sorry I didn't see your request for the book. I don't know the chapter but the book is called the ...The Healing Craft.
I predict it will not be of much interest to you.
I got rid of my prejudice, stopped being co-dependent, and believed.
majamin
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That's a symptom of schizophrenia, isn't it?
That's "twisting words", or perhaps dyslexia?
It sounds like mental illness. Or, signs of very pervasive cognitive biases.
Perhaps if the Ouija Board told him so.
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
Cognitive dissonance.
Lothian
should be banned
No problem threads move on quickly.
It is of interest to me. If there is a book with a chapter called "YOU ARE NOT CLEOPATRA" it is not evidence your story is true. However if there is no such book then it is an excellent example of what has been discussed in the thread. Memory is fallible and anecdotes can not be trusted.
Back to the book. I don't think that is the right one. See your earlier post.
'The healing craft' does not sound like a book on debunking. Google only finds a book on witches.
Perhaps you could try again.
Fast Eddie B
Philosopher
I'm new to this forum but have been a skeptic for a long time and have followed Randi's challenge.
Both Randi and others involved have expressed frustration in that many of the prospective claimants cannot seem to articulate coherently what they allege they can actually do.
I think that's largely what's going on here.
Both Randi and others involved have expressed frustration in that many of the prospective claimants cannot seem to articulate coherently what they allege they can actually do.
I think that's largely what's going on here.
Charles Boden
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Hi all,
One of you here said to me: "Get a life..." Well, I do have one. My house, my wife, my four kids and my work, to which I dedicate an average of fourteen hours a day. The reason I say this is because it is practically impossible to keep up with all the posts made and all the questions posed here. It is also for this same reason that I am not going to start off new threads on each individual issue. It would just simply be impossible to keep up.
I made no claim that I am capable of predicting numbers. I also made no mention of the story I wrote and published, nor was this my purpose in coming here, so whoever said he/she was angry at me for doing so is angry at me for no reason.
I appreciate your more recent replies. To answer the question as to what it would take for me to believe that there is no such thing as a psychic, I would have to say that the degree of difficulty is about the same as your believing that there is. No problem there, as far as I can see. We can certainly debate issues and even perhaps become friends despite our differences in belief.
One nice little detail that I did not mention during the Ouija session was that I asked "Luiz Felipe" if he would like to listen to some music, to which the reply was "yes", and when I asked which song he would like to hear the glass spelled out "Hair of the dog".
"I have that record!" I said, and when I went to the record-player (boy, I'm getting old) the record that was there was precisely the album by Nazareth (for those here old enough to remember
) with the side that had this song turned upwards.
I have not lied in my account. I honestly have no reason to. Neither did I clam to have supernatural memory. My memory is as selective and certainly fallible as anybody else's.
For the record, these are the opening paragraphs of the story I wrote, which I hoped would pretty much sum up the purpose and reason as to why I wrote it:
"Whether those who will read what is written within these pages might consider me a liar or a fool, or perhaps even insane, I would willingly swear upon God’s name that all the events described herein truly happened, regardless if those who choose to live in disbelief may wish to think otherwise or not.
Quite certainly most will not believe in these events. Many will shun them, some might even attempt to ridicule them, and in our eternal disbelief yet others will disregard them believing in the scientific knowledge of their own scepticism or in the blind interpretation of the dogmas and doctrines of their own religious faith.
But in the comfort of knowing, however, that at least some will understand, the best that I can do is to tell of these events such as they happened, and let each draw one’s own conclusions as one may.
What is contained within this story is no reason for pride to me, but has rather far more often been the source of deep sadness and regrets, although the knowledge of what it holds, for the comfort it has so often brought me, has helped to carry me through some of the hardest of times.
I do not write it for personal or political interests, though for reasons that will become clear I do aspire to see Scotland an independent and sovereign nation once again. It is also not written with the objective of convincing, but of sharing. Not of imposing, but as a theological point for pondering and reflection. It is certainly not written with the purpose of confrontation, but to demonstrate that all things are possible, and that perhaps all lines of religion and science, of faith and reason, could possibly be referring to the same fundamental truths.
The historical significance of what is contained within this story, rather than a factor that might help to evidence it, will on the contrary most probably be used as an argument against it. Were it the story of a simple peasant in 18th century Scotland and perhaps more might pause to ponder and perhaps give it credit. In truth, the only advantage of its historical importance is in the fact that it is so well documented, which makes the research into these past events easier to follow and their associations easier to understand.
Let it be read then simply as the story that it is intended to be, and as an homage to the ancestors who lived through these events, for who knows if your own personal story might not be contained within these pages too? "
My regards to all of you.
Charles
One of you here said to me: "Get a life..." Well, I do have one. My house, my wife, my four kids and my work, to which I dedicate an average of fourteen hours a day. The reason I say this is because it is practically impossible to keep up with all the posts made and all the questions posed here. It is also for this same reason that I am not going to start off new threads on each individual issue. It would just simply be impossible to keep up.
I made no claim that I am capable of predicting numbers. I also made no mention of the story I wrote and published, nor was this my purpose in coming here, so whoever said he/she was angry at me for doing so is angry at me for no reason.
I appreciate your more recent replies. To answer the question as to what it would take for me to believe that there is no such thing as a psychic, I would have to say that the degree of difficulty is about the same as your believing that there is. No problem there, as far as I can see. We can certainly debate issues and even perhaps become friends despite our differences in belief.
One nice little detail that I did not mention during the Ouija session was that I asked "Luiz Felipe" if he would like to listen to some music, to which the reply was "yes", and when I asked which song he would like to hear the glass spelled out "Hair of the dog".
"I have that record!" I said, and when I went to the record-player (boy, I'm getting old) the record that was there was precisely the album by Nazareth (for those here old enough to remember
) with the side that had this song turned upwards.I have not lied in my account. I honestly have no reason to. Neither did I clam to have supernatural memory. My memory is as selective and certainly fallible as anybody else's.
For the record, these are the opening paragraphs of the story I wrote, which I hoped would pretty much sum up the purpose and reason as to why I wrote it:
"Whether those who will read what is written within these pages might consider me a liar or a fool, or perhaps even insane, I would willingly swear upon God’s name that all the events described herein truly happened, regardless if those who choose to live in disbelief may wish to think otherwise or not.
Quite certainly most will not believe in these events. Many will shun them, some might even attempt to ridicule them, and in our eternal disbelief yet others will disregard them believing in the scientific knowledge of their own scepticism or in the blind interpretation of the dogmas and doctrines of their own religious faith.
But in the comfort of knowing, however, that at least some will understand, the best that I can do is to tell of these events such as they happened, and let each draw one’s own conclusions as one may.
What is contained within this story is no reason for pride to me, but has rather far more often been the source of deep sadness and regrets, although the knowledge of what it holds, for the comfort it has so often brought me, has helped to carry me through some of the hardest of times.
I do not write it for personal or political interests, though for reasons that will become clear I do aspire to see Scotland an independent and sovereign nation once again. It is also not written with the objective of convincing, but of sharing. Not of imposing, but as a theological point for pondering and reflection. It is certainly not written with the purpose of confrontation, but to demonstrate that all things are possible, and that perhaps all lines of religion and science, of faith and reason, could possibly be referring to the same fundamental truths.
The historical significance of what is contained within this story, rather than a factor that might help to evidence it, will on the contrary most probably be used as an argument against it. Were it the story of a simple peasant in 18th century Scotland and perhaps more might pause to ponder and perhaps give it credit. In truth, the only advantage of its historical importance is in the fact that it is so well documented, which makes the research into these past events easier to follow and their associations easier to understand.
Let it be read then simply as the story that it is intended to be, and as an homage to the ancestors who lived through these events, for who knows if your own personal story might not be contained within these pages too? "
My regards to all of you.
Charles
Madalch
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Because where I come from, "Eagle" is a boy's name.
Lothian
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..and what did you think about the ideometer effect?
Excellent we are agreed that a single replicable experiment demonstrating results opposite to our respective beliefs will do it.
majamin
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Welcome Fast Eddie B. And, yes, delusion here seems to lead to avoidance, ignorance, confirmation bias, which seems to lead to incoherent posts and ideas.