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PixyMisa said:
On the other hand, I liked the parody where the teacher goes insane and blows up the entire class. Nice bit of editing, that. Sadly it seems to have been pulled offline.
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If you're referring to the one I'm thinking of, it was produced by b3tan mutated monty (b3ta is a UK site similar-ish to 4chan except without anonymous posting and porn), and it is still up. Original b3ta thread:

http://www.b3ta.com/links/how_to_solve_the_problem_of_climate_change

Or just watch it here :) (Warning: you know what is in this if you've followed the thread, so don't watch if you are easily offended by cheap and unconvincing SFX of children exploding)

 
I'm still not understanding what they were even trying to accomplish with this. What was their goal with this that they failed miserably to achieve?
 
they got a lot more attention than they would have gotten with any other video.

how many of you have heard the first time of 10:10 do to this Video?
 
DC said:
they got a lot more attention than they would have gotten with any other video.

how many of you have heard the first time of 10:10 do to this Video?
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And how many will have their views of them tainted from now on?
 
Travis said:
I'm still not understanding what they were even trying to accomplish with this. What was their goal with this that they failed miserably to achieve?
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Had you ever heard of them before reading this thread?
 
Many hadn't heard of the Hindenburg and its' parent group before her spectacular crash either.

Abject failure rarely generates patronage.
 
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It's only an "abject failure" in woo-land (ie. the blogdenialosphere), the rest of the world barely registered, whereas a few more people like me saw a campaign they hadn't seen before and are going to events (CERES park in Brunswick for me, meet me there for treeplanting and tofu sausages!) that they wouldn't have otherwise known about. Check out the website, Alfie, there might be an event in your area, you can take the kids and the missus along, teach them about sustainability and carbon reduction. Could be a great day out for the whole family :)
 
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Travis said:
I'm still not understanding what they were even trying to accomplish with this. What was their goal with this that they failed miserably to achieve?
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We can only guess, but I suspect the intention was to contrast the weak, half-hearted way people are challenged over their CO2 profligacy, whereas (assuming AGW) the problem is deadly serious.
 
bit_pattern said:
It's only an "abject failure" in woo-land (ie. the blogdenialosphere), the rest of the world barely registered, whereas a few more people like me saw a campaign they hadn't seen before and are going to events (CERES park in Brunswick for me, meet me there for treeplanting and tofu sausages!) that they wouldn't have otherwise known about. Check out the website, Alfie, there might be an event in your area, you can take the kids and the missus along, teach them about sustainability and carbon reduction. Could be a great day out for the whole family :)
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Sigh ...... If only I was unemployed; I could dedicate so much more time to eating tofu sausages while stoned.
 
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A.A.Alfie said:
Sigh ...... If only I was unemployed; I could dedicate so much more time to eating tofu sausages while stoned.
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Your stereotypes are as redundant as they are outdated. These days 'greens' aren't dreadlocked, lay about hippies, we're dynamic, young, go-getters with a social conscience. I'm a dedicated professional, I hardly ever smoke on the job these days.
 
LOL.
You're the one who mentioned being "too stoned" and eating "tofu sausages" pal. It's your own description of yourself, not mine.
 
LOL. There are copious amounts of evidence for AGW out there, try and get a 'skeptic' to read it. Out comes this video, they are jumping all over each other to get a look at it. If nothing else, the video demonstrates something about the AGW debate.
 
Yeah, weird add campaign.

I think people are trying way too hard to find meaning. It was a shot at absurdism. Bookitty mentioned Monty Python, and that seems right to me. The deepest it gets is, "hey, usually environmentalist publicity is boring as hell. Let's do something that grabs people's attention on the theory that any notoriety will be better than being ignored."

It's just not funny and doesn't make any sense, but it's also just a goofy commercial, not a big deal.
 
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bit_pattern said:
It's only an "abject failure" in woo-land (ie. the blogdenialosphere), the rest of the world barely registered
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So you first claim (12:18) that its a success because people are talking about it, and follow it up 22 minutes later by claiming it is only the <insert-pejorative-of-choice-here>-o-sphere talking about it. Although not necessarily mutually exclusive, those two claims aren't really terribly consistent. But, more importantly, it really isn't just the sceptic blogosphere talking about it, as I outline below.

I agree that more people know about 10:10 than ever before, the adage "there is no such thing as bad publicity" just doesn't apply to political movements.

bit_pattern said:
whereas a few more people like me saw a campaign they hadn't seen before and are going to events (CERES park in Brunswick for me, meet me there for treeplanting and tofu sausages!) that they wouldn't have otherwise known about.
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Well, I'm sure they'll be happy to have you there. But they've also lost two of their major corporate sponsors. I'm not sure your presence treeplanting and eating tofu will quite offset that.

The rejection of the group - not just by corporate sponsors, but by other climate change group such as 350.org - tells the real impact of this. It was a disaster for 10:10. Even Joe Romm recognises that. Unless you want to include him in the pejorative-o-sphere you were talking about earlier.
 
A.A.Alfie said:
Many hadn't heard of the Hindenburg and its' parent group before her spectacular crash either.

Abject failure rarely generates patronage.
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They didn't mean to set the Hindenburg on fire and kill a bunch of people. That's pretty different from purposely making a graphic commercial.
 
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I like the add. makes people debate.
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No, actually it stiffles debate. It literally is saying that critics should disappear.

The ad is an ecologist wet dream, in their ideal world they could just make the opposition disappear. But this is real life, and they've got to engage them in actual debate.
 
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DC said:
what science should have been debated? There are many threads about AGW, and not one of the deniers has come up with any legit critque of the science, only denial and CT drivel.
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I don't think the debate is on the science, but on what to do about it. Pretending that other opinions don't exist is not the way to debate.
 
Pardalis said:
No, actually it stiffles debate. It literally is saying that critics should disappear.

The ad is an ecologist wet dream, in their ideal world they could just make the opposition disappear. But this is real life, and they've got to engage them in actual debate.
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Oh really, that is what that field of science wants?
 
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