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Wow. How desperate for validation do you have to be to read a standard "We got your mail" form letter as a great victory?

Yes, back in June they'd filed a class action with the International Court of Justice in the Hague but as of July 10th they've put one into the International Criminal Court as well.

Strictly speaking I don't think 'Freedom Advocacy & Law' are hardcore FMOTL adherents. That being said the 1st paragraph of the document entitled 'Lis Alibi Pendens' has FMOTL type moonbattery all over:

Sam Hallimond Esq, James Moore Esq, Paul Randle-Jolliffe Esq, for Freedom Advocacy & Law, representative for the collective plaintiff(s), sovereign in individual right as recognised by the Crown’s prior obligations, present fact, truth and claim for acceptance or protest before the Entire World

The gist of the whole document seems to be saying that the government & courts should stay all family law cases until the ICC have dealt with the class action. Obviously completely idiotic.
 
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Oh look. A private members bill from a looney backbencher (or whatever the appropriate term is for a state legislature). I bet it will go far.

I especially like this clause:

SECTION 5.
All laws and parts of laws in conflict with this Act are repealed.
Talk about yer nucular option.
 
This Rep. Bobby Franklin is quite the character. Check out this Bill:
(wall of crazy text follows)

The General Assembly finds that:
(1) Our forefathers, in the unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, stated: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. – That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men...';
(2) In that charter they unanimously declared that:
(A) There is an almighty, everlasting, creator God, the God of the Bible, the only God there is, Who is active over the affairs of men and to Whom someday we shall all give an account;
(B) Our rights come from God and as such they are not privileges granted by the civil government; and
(C) The sole purpose of the civil government is to secure, protect, and defend the God-given rights to life, liberty, and property;
(3) God has instituted four, not one, spheres of government;
(4) The first and primary sphere of government is individual self-government where everyone is to take personal responsibility for himself and his actions. The second sphere of government is family government where children are trained by their parents or guardians to be productive and responsible citizens. The third sphere of government is church government where there is a more public form of discipline for the unrepentant. The church is given the keys of the kingdom to help in the discipline of her members and to punish sins. The fourth, and least, sphere of government is the civil government which has been given the sword to punish those who infringe upon the life, liberty, or property of others;
...
(9) Whenever the civil government assumes to itself an area that God has assigned to one of the other governmental jurisdictions, it is blasphemously asserting itself to be God;
(10) The only legitimate functions of the civil government are the ones that pertain to the punishment of those who infringe on the life, liberty, or property of others. All other functions undertaken by the civil government are usurpation and a blasphemous attempt to be God;
...
(13) In order to 'perpetuate the principles of free government, insure justice to all, preserve peace, promote the interest and happiness of the citizen and of the family, and transmit to posterity the enjoyment of liberty,' as the people set forth in the Preamble of the Constitution of Georgia, all laws, departments, agencies, authorities, boards, or commissions that do not pertain to the legitimate jurisdiction of the civil government to secure, protect, and defend the God-given rights to life, liberty, and property must be repealed and abolished.
And of course:
SECTION 2.
All laws and parts of laws in conflict with this Act are repealed.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/legis/2009_10/fulltext/hb870.htm
Seems perfectly constitutional to me.
 
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The "Restoring God's Government" Bill is in second reading too.

Don't get your hopes up tobjai.
 
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So much for what you call a "looney backbencher".
 
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No it isn't: someone is trying to enact it. There's a difference.

Anyway, even if it is enacted it will be a statute, so unless the licensing authorities consent to it it will not apply to them.
 
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So much for what you call a "looney backbencher".
I like this one, where he puts the state of Georgia in charge of Federal expenditures:

http://www.legis.ga.gov/legis/2009_10/fulltext/hb877.htm

Then there's this one where he expands the borders of the state of Georgia:

http://www.legis.ga.gov/legis/2009_10/fulltext/hb879.htm

And, of course, the bill I quoted in the above post.

From his bio:
A graduate of Covenant College in Lookout Mountain, Georgia, Representative Franklin earned a degree in both Biblical Studies and Business Administration.
Covenant College, eh? "The mission of Covenant College is to express the preeminence of Jesus Christ in all things."
http://www.covenant.edu/

Yeah, he's perfectly rational and stable.
 
It passed second reading on Jan 13 2010... one more reading and a vote to go.



Information on its status:


http://www.legis.ga.gov/legis/2009_10/sum/hb875.htm


Information on Georgia's legislature:

The Georgia General Assembly convenes on the second Monday of each January for a forty-day session. Because legislators can stop the count of days by formally adjourning for recesses, the actual session usually involves at least sixty calendar days and ends sometime in March. Should an emergency arise after final adjournment, the General Assembly can be called into special session.


Each bill or resolution has a "title," which is an introductory paragraph summarizing its content. As a caution against hastily passed legislation, Georgia's constitution requires that the title of each general bill be read three times on three separate days in each house. On the day of introduction the title of the bill is read aloud on the floor of the chamber. At this point, the presiding officer announces to which standing committee the bill will be assigned.


So, it got first and second readings in two days, right near the start of the legislative session - and then? No action at all after that. And those "readings" are reading the title. And they're mostly just a quirk of the Georgia legislative process, that is, a purely formal thing. They seem to have very little to do with whether or not the bill is progressing towards acceptance.


Added on preview, after more Googling:

http://www.gban.org/node/9

HOW A BILL BECOMES LAW IN GEORGIA

...

III. INTRODUCTION
·Filed with Clerk of House of Representatives
·Read for first time (by title) to entire House by Clerk (assigned to committee by Speaker)
·Read second time automatically on next legislative day



If favorably reported from committee, a bill advances to the third stage—floor consideration. For most of the session, each house operates under its own rules calendar. Prepared each evening by the rules committee, this calendar sets the next day's agenda for floor action. As there are usually more bills favorably reported from committee than can be considered on one day's floor session, the rules committee attempts to decide which bills are most important or deserving of floor consideration. For a variety of reasons, a particular bill reported from standing committee may never be placed on the rules calendar.


Note that there is no indication that this bill went to committee, was approved by committee, or was ever placed on the rules calendar. So "one more reading and a vote to go" is not a tremendously accurate representation of its status.
 
(Reading more of Rep. Bobby's bills).

The southern USA is made of crazy. How do people like this get elected?
 
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