NASA Engineer (ret.) is a Twoofie?

[R.Mackey]

Day 5

No Answer to my Question

This thread demonstrates pretty clearly just what Mr. Deets brings to the Truth Movement. Unless he starts producing something a whole lot more interesting, I think we can ignore him completely. This thread outs him as just another robot.

 

[RedIbis]

Day 5

No Answer to my Question

This thread demonstrates pretty clearly just what Mr. Deets brings to the Truth Movement. Unless he starts producing something a whole lot more interesting, I think we can ignore him completely. This thread outs him as just another robot.

I think Mr. Deets took one look at the level of "discourse" and decided there would be much better venues for discussion. I noticed that you made no attempt to quell the disparaging comments or raise the level of discourse.

I also noticed that you did not apologize for calling him a semi-techncial middle manager when he clarified his resume, so please don't get all self righteous when someone doesn't want to debate on hostile ground.

 

[Disbelief]

I think Mr. Deets took one look at the level of "discourse" and decided there would be much better venues for discussion. I noticed that you made no attempt to quell the disparaging comments or raise the level of discourse.

Why not quell these himself by saying something original.

I also noticed that you did not apologize for calling him a semi-techncial middle manager when he clarified his resume, so please don't get all self righteous when someone doesn't want to debate on hostile ground.

Where does his clarification prove that he was not a semim-technical middle manager? How do you know his position withing the organizational structure?

 

[The Big Dog]

I think Mr. Deets took one look at the level of "discourse" and decided there would be much better venues for discussion. I noticed that you made no attempt to quell the disparaging comments or raise the level of discourse.

I also noticed that you did not apologize for calling him a semi-techncial middle manager when he clarified his resume, so please don't get all self righteous when someone doesn't want to debate on hostile ground.

And much to your complete consternation, the area of "discourse" that he has chosen is: The Citizen's Investigation Team's grossly illogical and misleading North of Citgo theory.

Ohhh, Red, THAT has GOT to hurt. Your hero is a No Planer.

 

[DGM]

I think Mr. Deets took one look at the level of "discourse" and decided there would be much better venues for discussion.

By that you mean he'd rather "preach to the choir" then back up what he claims to non-believers. Gage is like that too. You should go to one of his shows. At the end stand up to ask a question and note how fast someone asks what your going to say. Can't disrupt the show.

 

[Sabretooth]

I think Mr. Deets took one look at the level of "discourse" and decided there would be much better venues for discussion. I noticed that you made no attempt to quell the disparaging comments or raise the level of discourse.

I also noticed that you did not apologize for calling him a semi-techncial middle manager when he clarified his resume, so please don't get all self righteous when someone doesn't want to debate on hostile ground.

Aw...Deets got his feewing's hurt and took his ball and went home...

WTFever. Deets is an adult, he made his claims, he got scared, and ran off. He can't and won't answer questions in this forum because he knows he'll get eaten alive.

He's a hack and he knows it.

 

[R.Mackey]

Where does his clarification prove that he was not a semim-technical middle manager? How do you know his position withing the organizational structure?

That's what he is. Read his papers. (There aren't that many of them.)

It's not an insult. That's what being a program manager is. Nothing wrong with it at all. About half of my current work is not deeply technical either. That's just the way the Agency works.

And he would require that I apologize for explaining this?? This is why I have folks like RedIbis on Ignore. The odds of them saying anything that makes any sense at all are not promising. Waste Of Time.

 

[RedIbis]

I know it's really surprising that he would come to the conclusion that jref is not exactly the place for sincere, civil discourse. Just look at the last few comments for confirmation.

 

[Disbelief]

That's what he is. Read his papers. (There aren't that many of them.)

It's not an insult. That's what being a program manager is. Nothing wrong with it at all. About half of my current work is not deeply technical either. That's just the way the Agency works.

And he would require that I apologize for explaining this?? This is why I have folks like RedIbis on Ignore. The odds of them saying anything that makes any sense at all are not promising. Waste Of Time.

Coming from corporate America, I understand completely. I know what a Director is in my company, so I compared with Mr. Deets. In most cases, the higher up an individual goes, the less technical the responsibilities.

 

[DGM]

I know it's really surprising that he would come to the conclusion that jref is not exactly the place for sincere, civil discourse. Just look at the last few comments for confirmation.

What place do you suggest for him to do it?

 

[Pinch]

I think Mr. Deets took one look at the level of "discourse" and decided there would be much better venues for discussion. I noticed that you made no attempt to quell the disparaging comments or raise the level of discourse.

I also noticed that you did not apologize for calling him a semi-techncial middle manager when he clarified his resume, so please don't get all self righteous when someone doesn't want to debate on hostile ground.

Yeah....forget about the fact that it is absolutely impossible to take someone (Mr. Deets) seriously who has ponied up and joined forces with Cap't Bob and his leather-bodice-wearing alter ego Tiffany, he/she of the "A radar only tracks a target based on what has been put into a flight plan" and the "when an aircraft hits its "design limits", it breaks. Period." fame.

That right there is enough to convince any rational and sane soul that he is lacking in the finer points of intellectual acumen. I've known plenty of competent managers who were totally clueless when it came to common sense - that is what I sense here.

 

[beachnut]

I think Mr. Deets took one look at the level of "discourse" and decided there would be much better venues for discussion. I noticed that you made no attempt to quell the disparaging comments or raise the level of discourse.

I also noticed that you did not apologize for calling him a semi-techncial middle manager when he clarified his resume, so please don't get all self righteous when someone doesn't want to debate on hostile ground.

Deets is a semi-technical middle manager, that is his resume.

As Deets lurks, is he rationalizing why he joined CIT, p4t and the morons at Gage personal travel scam and living money fraud club.?

If Deets was capable of rational thinking, his next post will be an apology for being fooled, for being gullible, and for falling for BS, loads of really dumb tripe.

Deets? make the post, save yourself, wake up.


Deets failed to study the FDR, RADAR, and DNA evidence for Flight 77.

Yeah....forget about the fact that it is absolutely impossible to take someone (Mr. Deets) seriously who has ponied up and joined forces with Cap't Bob and his leather-bodice-wearing alter ego Tiffany, he/she of the "A radar only tracks a target based on what has been put into a flight plan" and the "when an aircraft hits its "design limits", it breaks. Period." fame.

That right there is enough to convince any rational and sane soul that he is lacking in the finer points of intellectual acumen. I've known plenty of competent managers who were totally clueless when it came to common sense - that is what I sense here.

Deets, wake up!

 

[The Big Dog]

I know it's really surprising that he would come to the conclusion that jref is not exactly the place for sincere, civil discourse. Just look at the last few comments for confirmation.

Yeah, maybe he can go sign up at the tree house CIT forum.

He can participate in the Face to the Name thread with the rest of the skinheads and Brownshirt No Planers over there.

 

[T.A.M.]

I think Mr. Deets took one look at the level of "discourse" and decided there would be much better venues for discussion. I noticed that you made no attempt to quell the disparaging comments or raise the level of discourse.

I also noticed that you did not apologize for calling him a semi-techncial middle manager when he clarified his resume, so please don't get all self righteous when someone doesn't want to debate on hostile ground.

The offer was made for him to start up a moderated thread where only he and Mackey would discuss things....he has not created that thread. Should we have to do that for him?

TAM

 

[RedIbis]

The offer was made for him to start up a moderated thread where only he and Mackey would discuss things....he has not created that thread. Should we have to do that for him?

TAM

Why would he? Just take a look at the level of discussion thus far. He has no obligation to jref. He was friendly enough to clear up Mackey's misrepresentation of his career at NASA.

 

[T.A.M.]

Why would he? Just take a look at the level of discussion thus far. He has no obligation to jref. He was friendly enough to clear up Mackey's misrepresentation of his career at NASA.

I didn't say he had to, I merely stated the offer was made. However, until he does clear up his pov, and back it up with some science (particularly given he worked for NASA, and is being trotted out by many truthers as an expert), with respect to the CIT/Pentagon issue, he will remain a paper tiger scientist in this area.

TAM

 

[The Big Dog]

Why would he? Just take a look at the level of discussion thus far. He has no obligation to jref. He was friendly enough to clear up Mackey's misrepresentation of his career at NASA.

He was also friendly enough to confirm that he is a No Planer at the Pentagon, right RED?

How does that make you feel Red?

 

[Childlike Empress]

I didn't say he had to, I merely stated the offer was made.

By whom? Mackey? Did i miss it?

 

[The Big Dog]

By whom? Mackey? Did i miss it?

Hey CE, how ya doing on Frank Probst?

http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

Pages 12-13. I wonder if Mr. Deets saw this before he jumped in on behalf of Justin Ranke and the Buffet Slayer.

 

[T.A.M.]

Mr. Deets,

Thanks for sticking a toe in.

Unfortunately, there is a great deal of bias among the moderation. Still, I think if some conditions were set up for a moderated thread, they would stick to it and keep out irrational rabble. I would recommend a single topic, rather than what usually passes as a debate topic here, such as 'what do you think happened on 9/11?'

If this single topic and conditions were agreed upon by you and Mackey, I suspect there could be a civil and productive discussion out of it. Thanks again and thanks for clearing up your job title. It certainly doesn't sound like a "semi-technical middle manager" to me.
Red

I made a request to the mods, and as Red suggested, maybe you should discuss what kind of discussion it should be.

Glad for the clarification.

I invite you to stick around and perhaps discuss your views on 9/11 and any scientific explanation you might want to offer to support them.

TAM

In my experience (we have not had one in a while) a prerequested, moderated thread, agreed to be between two people has been honored by members here to the extreme.

Now we are free to start another thread on the forum where we make comments concerning answers, in which debunker and truther alike may comment....

I would love to see such an informative discussion.

TAM

Edit: I removed the comment about your unfairness, as you did end your post indicating you felt some good could come from it.

My suggestion, if you agree to a two person discussion on its own thread about said topic, is that you refrain, for your own good, from reading any thread that might be created discussing the discussion/debate you and mackey will have.

TAM

Well to be fair, if they both have questions, a two way discussion, uninterupted, unimpeded, but for all to view, might be the best way to settle, or at least explore the issue.

TAM

The above pretty much looks like an olive branch to have a moderated untouched debate/discussion between the two.

TAM