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NASA Engineer (ret.) is a Twoofie?

You will have to tell me about the moderator. The one that used to be at the Richard Dawkins Forum on this subject was extremely biased. If that is the case here, I'm not sure I'm interested.

Mr. Deets,

Thanks for sticking a toe in.

Unfortunately, there is a great deal of bias among the moderation. Still, I think if some conditions were set up for a moderated thread, they would stick to it and keep out irrational rabble. I would recommend a single topic, rather than what usually passes as a debate topic here, such as 'what do you think happened on 9/11?'

If this single topic and conditions were agreed upon by you and Mackey, I suspect there could be a civil and productive discussion out of it. Thanks again and thanks for clearing up your job title. It certainly doesn't sound like a "semi-technical middle manager" to me.
Red
 
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Don't listen to Redibis, he's the one who called you a 'twoofie' in the thread title.

Such disrespect......
 
Mr. Deets,

Thanks for sticking a toe in.

Unfortunately, there is a great deal of bias among the moderation. Still, I think if some conditions were set up for a moderated thread, they would stick to it and keep out irrational rabble. I would recommend a single topic, rather than what usually passes as a debate topic here, such as 'what do you think happened on 9/11?'

If this single topic and conditions were agreed upon by you and Mackey, I suspect there could be a civil and productive discussion out of it. Thanks again and thanks for clearing up your job title. It certainly doesn't sound like a "semi-technical middle manager" to me.
Red

Mr. Deets:

There is a lot of poisoning the well around here, and other logical fallacies.

Hey, red, that reminds me: what do you think happened on 9/11? hee hee!
 
I made a request to the mods, and as Red suggested, maybe you should discuss what kind of discussion it should be.
 
What you mean is I didn't always agree with you in discussions of 9/11 WTC matters.

..and you are well aware that I never moderated the thread when I was involved in debate.

...and, IIRC, there was never any Moderator action directed at you.

:D
Eric C

If you choose to call your role then something other than moderator, then so be it.

It was more than just that you didn't always agree with me. It was enough for me to decide I didn't need to put up with it.
 
If you choose to call your role then something other than moderator, then so be it.

It was more than just that you didn't always agree with me. It was enough for me to decide I didn't need to put up with it.
You can't back up your claims. So you will not. Make sense when you present lies like a 767/757 can't fly faster than 580 mph and impact the WTC.

Why can't you explain your statement? Because is it false and you used no data, no evidence, and no knowledge to make up your statement. This is a fact.
 
I've been asked to explain my Director positions at NASA.

True, I was not a Center Director.

The line managers that directly report to the CD are called "Directors for." I was, prior to retirement, Director for Aerospace Projects.

NASA Dryden Flight Research Center is, and has been organized in a matrix management structure. The Aerospace Projects Office consists of the project managers of the various flight research projects. There were about twenty projects at any given time.

Prior to that position, I was the Director for Research Engineering. The Research Engineering Directorate represented a horizontal cut across the projects with all of the engineers assigned to the projects.

In earlier years, the directorates were called divisions, and the heads of the divisions were called chiefs. At that time, I was called the Chief of the Research Engineering Division.

The divisions were broken down into branches. Prior to becoming Research Engineering Division Chief, I was the Dynamics and Control Branch Chief. Dynamics and Control included Flight Controls, Structural Dynamics, and Flight Systems.

Dwain Deets

Glad for the clarification.

I invite you to stick around and perhaps discuss your views on 9/11 and any scientific explanation you might want to offer to support them.

TAM:)
 
Mr. Deets,

Thanks for sticking a toe in.

Unfortunately, there is a great deal of bias among the moderation. Still, I think if some conditions were set up for a moderated thread, they would stick to it and keep out irrational rabble. I would recommend a single topic, rather than what usually passes as a debate topic here, such as 'what do you think happened on 9/11?'

If this single topic and conditions were agreed upon by you and Mackey, I suspect there could be a civil and productive discussion out of it. Thanks again and thanks for clearing up your job title. It certainly doesn't sound like a "semi-technical middle manager" to me.
Red

In my experience (we have not had one in a while) a prerequested, moderated thread, agreed to be between two people has been honored by members here to the extreme.

Now we are free to start another thread on the forum where we make comments concerning answers, in which debunker and truther alike may comment....

I would love to see such an informative discussion.

TAM:)

Edit: I removed the comment about your unfairness, as you did end your post indicating you felt some good could come from it.
 
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If you choose to call your role then something other than moderator, then so be it.

It was more than just that you didn't always agree with me. It was enough for me to decide I didn't need to put up with it.

My suggestion, if you agree to a two person discussion on its own thread about said topic, is that you refrain, for your own good, from reading any thread that might be created discussing the discussion/debate you and mackey will have.

TAM:)
 
Why don't you just answer R MacKeys' question?

Well to be fair, if they both have questions, a two way discussion, uninterupted, unimpeded, but for all to view, might be the best way to settle, or at least explore the issue.

TAM:)
 
Welcome Mr. Deets,

in your recent CIT endorsement video i've posted earlier in this thread, you say (if i understand it correctly) that the official flight path at the Pentagon is improbable or even impossible, because the plane couldn't have descended the way described and then level out of it to hit the light poles and the building, without g forces occuring much higher than a jet like this could stand. This is based on calculations of Pilots for 9/11 Truth, which you are a member of. IIRC those calculations directly contradict the published (here on this forum) work of Ryan Mackey, and P4T have challenged him to defend/comment on his work, with him declining because he says he sees "nothing to debate".

As you are both extremely qualified to comment on this issue - even more than on building collapses -, I would love to see you two discuss it and propose it as the topic of a moderated thread.
 
Deets says;
The airplane was UA175, a Boeing 767-200, shortly before crashing into World Trade Center Tower 2. Based on analysis of radar data, the National Transportation and Safety Board reported the groundspeed just before impact as 510 knots. This is well beyond the maximum operating velocity of 360 knots, and maximum dive velocity of 410 knots. The possibilities as I see them are: (1) this wasn’t a standard 767-200; (2) the radar data was compromised in some manner; (3) the NTSB analysis was erroneous; or (4) the 767 flew well beyond its flight envelope, was controllable, and managed to hit a relatively small target. Which organization has the greater responsibility for acknowledging the elephant in the room? The NTSB, NASA, Boeing, or the AIAA? Have engineers authored papers, but the AIAA or NASA won’t publish them? Or, does the ethical responsibility lie not with organizations, but with individual aeronautical engineers? Have engineers just looked the other way?

(1) this wasn’t a standard 767-200;
Wrong, it was, it was Flight 175 it was proved by the same RADAR used by 911 truth. RADAR verified it was a standard 767. Wrong on this one due to evidence.

(2) the radar data was compromised in some manner;
A made up conclusion based on nothing; you have no evidene.


(3) the NTSB analysis was erroneous;
Wrong again, how can it be wrong? No evidence for this one.


(4) the 767 flew well beyond its flight envelope, was controllable, and managed to hit a relatively small target.
Small target? 207 feet wide, some runways are 150 feet wide and the pilot puts the aircraft exactly on centerline, inches to centerline. This is what happen, but the target was a BIG building bigger than a 40 foot wide runway. Pilots have to hit a window a few feet in size to land on target, and here we have a target 1300 feet tall. Small? lol

No one looked the other way, Flight 175 impacted the WTC at a speed of 560 to 590 mph.

Pilots hit buildings, these terrorists took the time to get FAA certified to fly. The terrorists took years to learn flying, you spent zero time researching 911 to check your own opinions.

You implied it was not possible, but the evidence shows it happened. Video is real, Flight 175 is real, the passengers deaths were real. What do you have?
You have membership in p4t, the 11.2g failed physics of Balsamo, the not an airline captain want to be failed organization of pilots with nut case ideas on 911. lol

A member of p4t is going to school us on airspeed of 175, a fact in evidence. The elephant in the room?

Dwain Deets Endorses CIT and National Security Alert - enough said. Kind of debunks his ideas on 911 all in one swift act of anti-intellectual failure, endorsing the worse investigators in the universe.

Does he understand he can post his nonsense and not respond to questions? He has not presented evidence in his on-line 911 truth statements, it is all BS talk based on some bias.

Too many years as chief of sections to handle disagreement and truth. He actually says nothing; like Balsamo, he implies idiotic delusions but can't back them up.

What will he make up for Flights 11, 77, and 93? Will there be the insanity of thermite thrown in?
 
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Welcome Mr. Deets,

in your recent CIT endorsement video i've posted earlier in this thread, you say (if i understand it correctly) that the official flight path at the Pentagon is improbable or even impossible, because the plane couldn't have descended the way described and then level out of it to hit the light poles and the building, without g forces occuring much higher than a jet like this could stand. This is based on calculations of Pilots for 9/11 Truth, which you are a member of. IIRC those calculations directly contradict the published (here on this forum) work of Ryan Mackey, and P4T have challenged him to defend/comment on his work, with him declining because he says he sees "nothing to debate".

Wow, did he really say that? He agrees with the freaking hockey stick?

That is an endorsement for CIT? Bwhahahaha!!! Wait til he learns that CIT's theory calls for the plane to perform a descending bank at something like 70 degrees, pull out of the bank, descend below the level of the trees, pull out of the descent and pull up and over the Pentagon at the site of the explosion.

Fanstastic stuff!

welcome to the Forum, Mr. Deets, it seems like most truthers are No Planers, like CIT, and presumably yourself.
 
But it wasn't a runway.

You have the length of a runway to adjust.

MM
LOL, and you flew heavy jets? Good one.

Wrong, as a pilot you are expected to hit a zone on the runway, you don't have the whole runway, you flunk.

In a large heavy jet, we actually go through a point about 35 feet above the end of the runway and touchdown about 750 feet. Some planes are so heavy they can't adjust and touch down late, they will crash and run off the end. Pilots are able to hit vertically this aim-point of 35 feet in the air, using an aim-point down the runway. This means on the WTC the terrorist vertical aim-point is 1300 feet, and usually a trained pilot makes good the 35 foot range within feet. OOPS.
The width of some runways the terrorists used were 40 feet wide. The WTC was 207 feet wide and the Pentagon was so wide a moron could hit it. OOPS, means CIT could fly a jet and crash into something as large as the Pentagon.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/food-for-thought-dwain-deets-supports-cit-flyover-theory/

I endorse CIT as the best source of information on this matter. Furthermore, I agree with their conclusion… the plane flew over the Pentagon.” Dwain Deets, developer of early generation drone aircrafts from the Dryden Flight Research Center and remote piloting systems

Best source, CIT? Source for weed? meth? lies? nonsense? Not facts and evidence.

daPlane flew over the Pentagon
 
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More lies.

CIT are not No Planers.

MM

Hee hee!! RRRIIIGGGHHHHTTTTTT.

How many planes do Craig and the Buffet Slayer claim hit the Pentagon?

Answer: None.

But they are NOT No Planers! They just make up lies and claim that NO Planes hit the Pentagon.

Great post, MM!!

Great crowd you run around with Mr. Deets.
 

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