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Merged President Ahmadinejad trips the light fantastic

It's almost as if you guys have no idea you are simply members of a tiny cult, and you are being used for political purposes by the president of Iran--useful idiots, if you will.

Oh wait.....never mind.
 
twinstead said:
It's almost as if you guys have no idea you are simply members of a tiny cult, and you are being used for political purposes by the president of Iran--useful idiots, if you will.

Oh wait.....never mind.
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It's the other way around. The Iranians have internet connections as well. Now they are part of our evil 'little cult' as well. And we can use Iran to destroy ZOG-USA and replace it with something more sympathetic, something Ron Paulestinian, something Norman Rockwell-esque, America First America...

We control them, not the otherway around. After all, not many original ideas come from Islamic countries. Call me a racist.
 
twinstead said:
It's almost as if you guys have no idea you are simply members of a tiny cult, and you are being used for political purposes by the president of Iran--useful idiots, if you will.

Oh wait.....never mind.
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It's sad to watch mentally ill Truthers babble and postulate, as they really think they have a grasp on reality. I have strong feeling the future for many of the more vocal Truthers in this country will be plenty of rest at their nearby mental health hospital.
 
The hatred the Truthers feel for the west is quite apparent- They seem to admire Iran because of the Iranian governments distain for Jews and the west. Why don't Truthers renounce their US citizenship, move to Iran, and live under a government that openly shares their hatred for the Jews and the US?
 
Titanic Explorer said:
It's sad to watch mentally ill Truthers babble and postulate, as they really think they have a grasp on reality. I have strong feeling the future for many of the more vocal Truthers in this country will be plenty of rest at their nearby mental health hospital.
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Are you Professor Shermer ? lol
 
9/11-investigator said:
Believed official story until 2004.
Doubts set in after reading about the Pentagon on the internet.
In 2005 I heard myself saying to a client: "they did it themselves".
In 2007 the Israeli angle was added to the picture thanks to Bollyn.
In the autumn of 2008 I felt the need to put thoughts to paper:
http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com

As you all know:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4189238

Halfway 2009 this supplementary blog:
http://911notes.blogspot.com/

Not much has changed in my understanding of 9/11 since end 2008, except that F93 was destined for WTC7.
The nano-thermite paper was a big confirmation of the story.
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Around 2005 for me. I had always been bothered by a National Geographic show I had seen that suggested that the Twin Towers were held up exclusively by their perimeter walls. But I just ignored it as most people do when a somewhat authoratitive source makes a statement that contadicts their instinct. Then I saw something on the internet that made me think. When the realisation flooded in it was like my head would burst.

I've opposed these ...debunkers ever since on a few forums. I will check out your wtc7/F93 stuff. I think the same thing myself independently.
 
little grey rabbit said:
When you say AQ say they did it, is there some official AQ website or publication I can check this out on?

Can I go down to my local AQ office and read it in their manifesto?

23% of Germans versus 5% of Britains saying the US Government did is an interesting statistic too. Perhaps we need to wring some more Holocaust confessions out of some German geriatrics in order to bring them into line?
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Sure, feel free. I would reccomend Afganistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, or any of the other ME countries.

I wouldn't recommend actually doing it, unless you want to be on the FBI, CIA, and other national LE agencies black list. It's not fun to be on those.
 
little grey rabbit said:
When you say AQ say they did it, is there some official AQ website or publication I can check this out on?

Can I go down to my local AQ office and read it in their manifesto?
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Yes as a matter of fact. Follow the link to [5]


Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda Updated 5/22/09


http://911links.webs.com/index.htm

Table Of Contents
[1] NEWS (Jan 2001) Some See U.S. as Terrorists' Next Big Target
[2] (Jan 2001) ObL Tells Reporter that US attacks are comming.
[3] New York Times reports about al Queda about 89 times prior to 9/11/2001
[4] bin Laden quotes
[5] Al Qaeda: Statements and Evolving Ideology
[6] 1996: bin Laden declares war on America.
[7] ObL attacks on America prior to 2001 listed
[8] Specific attack warnings
[9] Bibliography
  • Al Qaeda Now - Understanding today's terrorists - Ed. by Greenberg
  • 9/11 Comission Report Ch. 6.3
  • The Commission - The Uncensored History Of The 9/11 Investigation by Shenon, Philip
  • Messages to the world; The statements of Osama bin Laden translated by Bruce Lawrence
  • Congressional Report for Congress; Al Qaede: Statements and Evolving Ideology
  • The Power of Nightmares VIDEO (3 parts)
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
  • The Shadow Factory - The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 by Bamford
  • PBS Nova Spy Factory
  • Ghost Wars by Cole
  • The Looming Tower - Wright
  • The bin Ladens by Cole
  • Spying Blind by Amy Zegart.

[10] 1998 ObL Fatwa calling for attack on the US
[11] Complete 9/11 timeline
[12] Answer to "bin Laden not wanted by FBI"
[13] US Government "Wanted" poster for biin Ladem
[14] KSM's indictment document
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bill smith said:
Did the NYT mention the polls that say 100 million Americans believe that their government was lying about 9/11 ?
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And yet 99.999% them couldn't even be bothered protesting on the recent 9/11 anniversary. And they can't be bothered voting for pro-truth candidates either.

So either your 100M are the laziest people on the of the earth or you just don't understand polls.
 
bill smith said:
We don't have to do anything Twinstead . We just have to know. The whole world I mean.
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Oh. So you've given up then on actually bringing the real perps to justice then.

At this point the TM is all about sitting in mom's basement, knowing you're "right." Pretty sad.
 
re: US Government Documents point out the truth in what Ahmadinejad said

Information from the US government confirm that there is much truth in what President Ahmadinejad said in his speech at UN on the 9/11 conspiracy, when he said “ It [9/11] was carried out by a terrorist group but the American government supported and took advantage of the situation.”.
According to the book, “Prior Knowledge of 9/11”, information now found in the US official reports from the investigations of 9/11 actually confirm some of what Ahmadinejad said. This book is almost entirely based on US official documents that came from the many government investigations of 9/11, plus Bob Woodward’s book States of Denial, which describes the urgent meeting in the White House between Blee, Black, Tenet, and Rice and Clarke, where Tenet tells Rice a huge al Qaeda attack will take place shortly inside of the US and kill thousands of Americans, Lawrence Wright's book Looming Tower on FBI Agent Ali Soufan, and the documents actually entered into the Moussaoui trial.

This information showed that the CIA had hidden the information on Mihdhar and Hazmi for almost 21 months before the attacks on 9/11 had taken place, in fact committing numerous criminal acts to obstruct the FBI Cole bombing investigation and to keep this information hidden. But what is even more horrific, is that when the CIA, including CIA officer Tom Wilshire, and the FBI HQ agents that had been subjugated by the CIA, including Dina Corsi and Rod Middleton, found out that Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US on August 22-23, 2001, they all knew these long time al Qaeda terrorists were in the US only in order to take part in a massive al Qaeda attack that the CIA and FBI HQ had been warned about since April 2001. Wilshire’s emails on July 5, and July 23, 2001 back to his CIA CTC managers, linked Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al Hazmi to the warnings of this massive al Qaeda attack.

But instead of alerting anyone in the FBI that could have stopped these attacks, the CIA and FBI HQ keep this information secret and even shut down the investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi by FBI Agent Steve Bongardt and his team of Cole bombing investigators on August 28, 2001, when Bongardt accidently found out that both Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US, even after Bongardt told them that he knew these al Qaeda terrorists were here to take part in yet another horrific al Qaeda attack.

Corsi told FBI Agent Steve Bongardt on August 28, 2001 that the reason he was not allowed to investigate Mihdhar and Hazmi was that the information Bongardt would need would have to come from the NSA, and this information was restricted by a NSA caveat from going to FBI criminal investigators. But the request to the NSA for FBI Agent Dina Corsi for permission to send this very information to these FBI criminal Cole bombing investigators had already been approved by the NSA on August 27, 2001, the day before she shuts down Bongardt’s investigation. When Bongardt protested and said the only reason this information could be withheld from him and his team was because it had been obtained using a FISA warrant, and asked the FBI HQ Agent Dina Corsi to get a legal ruling from the NSLU, the FBI legal unit, to see he and his team can investigate and search for Mihdhar and Hazmi, he is told by Corsi on August 29, 2001 that the NSLU had ruled that neither he nor his team would be allowed to investigate Mihdhar and Hazmi.

But according to the 9/11 Commission report page 538, footnote 81, the attorney who ruled in this issue, Sherry Sabol, told the FBI HQ Agent Dina Corsi, that since the information had no connection to any FISA warrant, Bongardt and his team could take part in any investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi. Sherry Sabol’s real ruling was never communicated to either Bongardt or anyone on his team.

Corsi emailed Bongardt on August 29, 2001 and said “If at such time information is developed indicating the existence of a substantial Federal crime, that information will be passed over the wall according to procedures."
But Corsi admitted she knew, as she stated on page 302 of the DOJ IG report, that the CIA had been deliberately hiding the photograph of Walid Bin Attash taken at Kuala Lumpur from Bongardt and his team, a photograph that Corsi knew directly connected both Mihdhar and Hazmi to the planning for the Cole bombing, who were at the same meeting. Since this is a crime, Corsi had no legitimate or legal reason to shut down Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi, and knew it.

By this time most of the management at the CIA and FBI HQ also knew, that Mihdhar and Hazmi had taken part in the planning of the Cole bombing. They all also knew that Mihdhar and Hazmi were long time al Qaeda terrorists connected to the east Africa bombings, and that Bin Laden had already been indicted for the east Africa bombings. Since these were also horrific and heinous crimes, there was absolutely no legitimate or legal reason Corsi, her boss Rod Middleton, the CIA officer directing Corsi's obstruction of the Cole bombing investigation, Tom Wilshire, the FBI HQ or the CIA to shut down Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi.

What is even more horrific is after Bongardt’s investigation is shut down, and the investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi is given to the most inexperienced FBI investigator in the New York intelligence unit, Robert Fuller, Fuller calls Corsi on September 5, 2001, and tells her he has gotten nowhere and needs more information after failing to find any information on Mihdhar or Hazmi in “Choicepoint”, the FBI data base. He asks Corsi to be allowed to contact Saudi Arabian Airlines to get Mihdhar’s credit card number. When Corsi refuses to give him permission to get this information, Fuller’s investigation completely fails, and he gets nowhere by September 11, 2001.
Almost 3000 people are murdered when first Bongardt’s investigation and then Fullers’ investigations are shut down by FBI HQ and this has never been explained by the 9/11 Commission when they had the exact same documents that are listed right here.

The 9/11 Commission even stated that they could never figure out why the CIA had never connected Mihdhar and Hazmi to the warnings of this huge al Qaeda attack in the summer of 2001, when in fact they had the very same emails from Tom Wilshire that are sited here. The book “Prior Knowledge of 9/11” has all of this information, and much more on how and even why the CIA and FBI HQ deliberately allowed the al Qaeda terrorists to carry out the attacks on 9/11. See http://www.amazon.com/Prior-Knowledge-9-11-ebook/product-reviews/B0041VYL9K/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt
 
I suppose David Ray Griffin and Richard Gage will be called in as experts on 9/11. I can think of a good few more who may also have to be consulted. I wonder who will be called forth on the government side to do the defending of the OCT. I'd say thay they are all really looking forward to being asked....lol

The American Media must realise that they appear complicit by not picking up on this worldwide story sufficiently . They are looking literally more guilty by the minute. They do not have forever to decide which way to jump. Their survival as commercial entities is at stake.

Tick-tock-tick-tock..
 
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CHF said:
Oh. So you've given up then on actually bringing the real perps to justice then.

At this point the TM is all about sitting in mom's basement, knowing you're "right." Pretty sad.
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Our total dedication seems to be paying off though doesn't it ? Without us things would never have come so far. A new 9/11 investigation is what we demanded and it looks like a new 9/11 investigation is what we are going to have, come what may..

Without us this would never have happened. High Fives Truthers..
 
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