Dr. Judy Wood Ph.D, Materials Science, 9/11, & Directed Energy Weapons

So many words - so much time wasted.

Dear AaronMHatch,

Your post, as quoted above, is post # 278. It appears, therefore, to be a response to post # 277. I am here double checking for accuracy of that assumption and in order to overcome the ambiguity inherent in your posting.

If your post # 278 is a reply to mine at #277, then thank you for posting as you have done. I consider your reply to my post, if that is what it is, to be quite revealing. In the main, it reveals your inability and/or unwillingness to refute what I have posted.

I will review this thread again to see whether or not the meaning, inherent ambiguity and intent of your above post is clarified and whether or not it remains your last word on the subject of DEW proof, PSYOP proof, SAIC and ARA complicity and the nature of the TOP SECRECY apparatus to 9/11, all as more comprehensively proven by DR. JUDY WOOD.

all the best

jammonius
 
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Your source is a mere 4 page piece of pure propaganda puffery. It's purpose is hard to fathom, other than, perhaps as either advertising, at best, or, more likely and unfortunately true, a furtherance of the 9/11 deception.

But, let me here double check for accuracy:

Do you claim your 4 page document is an authoritative accounting of what steel was recovered?

Yes, since it was, and is.


The document, in addition to saying what you say it says, also mentions the following in its mere 4 pages:

"Phillips and Jordan officially took over management of the Staten Island Landfill Operation on October 2nd. At that time there were about 137,000 tons of debris already stockpiled at the site that had not been inspected. That number grew to around 170,000 tons by the third week of October. By the eighth of November, under P&J’s management, the number was down to less then 1,400 tons.
The first thing the P&J team did when they took over the site was to make life easier for the agents. The debris was being laid out on the ground, and the agents (about 2,000 of them working 24/7) would have to rake through the debris looking for body parts, personal effects, and evidence at their feet. We brought in Picking Stations, which placed the debris at waist level on conveyor belts. This immediately cut down on the fatigue level and increased productivity."


It does not appear the firm was engaged in a forensic operation at all; rather, they were engaged in a cleaning operation where the issue of steel was merely a part and parcel of the commingling of debris resulting from the annihilation of the WTC complex.


The hilited word is of vast importance.

Phillips and Jordan said:
On September 25th,, to alleviate the confusion and bring order to the debris disposal mission, the New York City Office of Emergency Management requested that FEMA task the Corps with activation of its ACI Debris Management Contract. The Corps in turn tasked Phillips and Jordan with the management of operations at the Staten Island Landfill. This would later include the creation, implementation, and management of a Site Specific Health and Safety Plan under the City of New York’s directive to “donate no more souls to the terrorists”.
That same day the P&J team went to the Landfill to meet with the New York City Police Department (NYPD) officials who were running the forensic recovery operation.

Now, what does this say? Do you understand the concept? Do you understand written word?


As is often the case in 9/11 debunking, assumptions are incorporated into what little analysis takes place and then propaganda is willingly used as proof of important concepts.

Really? It says
P&J said:
P&J was also tasked with managing the Forensic Recovery/Debris Disposal operation at the Staten Island Landfill where debris from the World Trade Center site was taken.
P&J said:
The debris was being laid out on the ground, and the agents (about 2,000 of them working 24/7) would have to rake through the debris looking for body parts, personal effects, and evidence at their feet. We brought in Picking Stations, which placed the debris at waist level on conveyor belts. This immediately cut down on the fatigue level and increased productivity.


You and other posters need to be cautioned about use of propaganda to prove your 9/11 claims. Doing so is dangerous, deceptive and highly counterproductive to the public good. You may remain fooled as long as you like; believe whatever you want. But, by all means, please do not seek to further your beliefs by use of deceptive, emotionally tinged, propaganda. You do not want to fool yourself AND others, do you? :boggled:

Propaganda? Do you even know the definition of that word?
 
Yes, since it was, and is.





The hilited word is of vast importance.



Now, what does this say? Do you understand the concept? Do you understand written word?




Really? It says





Propaganda? Do you even know the definition of that word?

Triforcharity,

Permit me to make a suggestion concerning your posting: In order to have a basis for assessing the actual content you are posting concerning the issue of steel collection, could you please incorporate that substance so that it is carried over into the responsive post?

As can be seen from the above, nothing of substance is contained in that part of your post that is captured when quoting it.

As things stand, we haven't got the foggiest clue what you are actually saying about the cleanup firm you are referencing, do we?

What exactly are you trying to say about them?

While everyone acknowledges that the FEMA 403 Report is by no means determinative as to what happened on 9/11, that report does, nonetheless, relaibly list for us who participated in what little effort there was to engage in forensic assessment of remnant steel, together with some attempt to measure how much was collected by weight and so on.

In identifying who participated in the forensic part of the work, the firm you are relying on -- Phillips and Jordan (P&J) -- does not appear to be listed, unless I missed it:

http://www.civil.columbia.edu/ce4210/FEMA_403CD/html/pdfs/403_apg.pdf

A listing of the firms and the individuals involved in the assessment of remnant steel is set out at pgs 4 and 5 of the above linked FEMA appendix. Once again, neither Phillips nor Jordan nor P&J is anywhere to be found in that listing.

Please note, too, that FEMA points out that much of the expertise that can be said to have participated in the forensic evaluation of steel was done on a volunatary basis. This confirms, I here assert, that the effort was haphazard, incomplete and dishonest in so far as valid forensic investigation is concerned.

Is there anywhere in the FEMA report where the firm you are relying on for proof of the claim steel was collected is referenced at all, if so where, pray tell?

I will also continue to look, because, as you know, I do not play '20 question' games by which is meant I do not participate in or initiate such games. I also do not go off on posters' requests for wild goose chases and I do not initiate such requests either. All I'm here suggesting is that if you want to stake out a validly supported claim about steel at the WTC, it would behoove you to consider the FEMA report.

In fact, the best official source for an overall, 127 page survey of the site, and second only in quality to the work done by Dr. Judy Wood, is this from FEMA:

http://www.fema.gov/library/file;js...f&fileid=974abdd0-af95-11df-b5f3-001cc4568fb6

While the file is said to be a large one, it is actually about 10megs and is not too hard to download. That 127pg presentation goes a long way towards laying out the visual evidence of DEW, including straight up confirmation that GZ was flat.

I am merely here staking out a claim as to why I say your reliance on the Phillips firm is propaganda. Neither they nor their 4 page propaganda piece are a source for what was or was not done with or to WTC steel.
 
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I do not believe I have ever seen anyone write as much and say as little.

I have said, proven and confirmed that the attempt to link proof of WTC remnant steel to the firm of Phillips and Jordan (P&J), as attempted by Triforcharity is nothing but fluff, propaganda and deception and I have cited the source of my refutation.

You, on the other hand, have done no such thing.
 
Do you have a hard time with reading comprehension? Is that what the problem is Jam?

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
 
I have said, proven and confirmed that the attempt to link proof of WTC remnant steel to the firm of Phillips and Jordan (P&J), as attempted by Triforcharity is nothing but fluff, propaganda and deception and I have cited the source of my refutation.

You, on the other hand, have done no such thing.

I do not have to prove anything.

I am still waiting, along with others, for details of DEW's as per the thread title and not this derail you are taking it down.
 
The above is classic propaganda.

Hahahaha! :D

...the proof provided by Dr. Judy Wood...

Hahahaha! :D

the proof of the DEW proposition is one of the very few that has been actually posted into the public record for all to see.

Hahahaha! :D

...propagandistic...

Hahahaha! :D

...Well, if they used WTC steel in that vessel, they better not have put it in the hull as the residual effects of DEW destruction might render that steel highly suspect for any structural purpose. :boggled:

HahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! :D

STS 60, you need to post at a higher level of quality. The post quoted above is insipid.

Hahahaha! :D
 
...I do not play '20 question' games...

Hahahaha! Gotcha! :D

...I also do not go off on posters' requests for wild goose chases...

Hahahaha! Gotcha! :D

...second only in quality to the work done by Dr. Judy Wood

WhooaaaaaHahahaha! :D Too funny! :D:D

...the visual evidence of DEW, including straight up confirmation that GZ was flat.

Hahahaha! :D Help!!! I'm ruinning out of breath!!

...propaganda...

Hahahaha! :D
 
More hahaha:

Jammy Leaphart, DEWy Wood en AnDEW Johnson (Johnson, get it?)

I don't even want to know what the three of them did together. Eeeew...
 

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If appeal to authority is what you want, there are probably 10,000 scientists from all over the world I could put up here. Besides, even the smartest people can fall victim to mental illness.

You really want to claim that you can produce a list of 10,000 scientists who gave 911 a deep thought, wrote about it, were not on a western govs payroll and nevertheless spoke out in favor of the OCT?

Amazing...

(I don't believe a word of it)
 

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