NASA Engineer (ret.) is a Twoofie?

[DGM]

You don't.

There is too little evidence substantiating the claim that the aircraft ended its life inside the Pentagon.



MM

We're all the first responders "in on it"? How about the people involved in the clean-up? I know you don't like to make a stand but, this is the reality that your proposing.

 

[The Big Dog]

The basis of all the OCT rebuttal attempts appears be incredulity.

I deleted the rest, because, of course, the remainder was absolutely devoid of any evidence, and was simply an argument from incredulity.

And, nothing of value was lost.

 

[BigAl]

You don't.

There is too little evidence substantiating the claim that the aircraft ended its life inside the Pentagon.

140 tons of aircraft and the identified bodily remains of all 64 people that boarded it was found inside the Pentagon. The approach, the crash and the forensic recovery was under continuous observation by countless people. We know the names and have the statements of about 250.

An estimated 7,000 first responders and forensic investigators worked on the Flight 77 hijacking. They would all be very surprised to find it was the wrong plane.

If the lightpoles were planted, it would be incredibly naive to think the masquerade would stop there.

Do you really believe that the Military/Industrial Complex cowers from wrong doing, and that they do not have the will or desire
to pursue what they feel is the most important future agenda?
MM

Don't change the topic. How do you explain the fact that the bodies of everyone that boarded Flight 77 were identified in the debris of essentially the entire airplane buried inside the Pentagon. All of this was witnessed by hundred of people, we have the statements of about 250. The black boxes were recovered. The audio box records Arabic nguage and a hijacking. The data box shows a flight path that agrees with the FAA radar track and the cellphone/airphone data and shows that the plane was being flown on manual control by the hijackers control right to the end.

 

[T.A.M.]

You don't.

There is too little evidence substantiating the claim that the aircraft ended its life inside the Pentagon.

Wrong. There was passenger DNA. There was airplane debris. There were hundreds of witnesses. There was the enormous volume of evidence that the FBI collected that proved that the hijackers plotted, and carried out the attacks.

And what do you and CIT have? A handful of witnesses that were led by their interviewers, and misremembered what they saw, when asked to recall it years after the event...which took place in a second or two.

If the lightpoles were planted, it would be incredibly naive to think the masquerade would stop there.

but they were not planted...so moot.

The basis of all the OCT rebuttal attempts appears be incredulity.

biggest lie you have spoken yet.

They can't/won't accept the glaring evidence that 9/11 was an Inside Job, because they can't, or refuse, to believe that
key elements within the U.S. government would be willing to participate in such a heinous crime in order
to promote an agenda that would not otherwise receive the necessary public support.

Lies again. I am willing to believe, absolutely, that there are elements of the USG that are evil enough to contemplate all that you have mentioned, but I have seen ZERO proof of it. Still waiting.

Do you really think the Wall Street leaders pursuing their pre-2008 agenda, were unaware and concerned about the harm
their pyramid actions would have on the American public?

irrelevant.

Do you really believe the government listens more to the people than they do to Wall Street and the multi-national corporations?

irrelevant.

Do you really believe that the Military/Industrial Complex cowers from wrong doing, and that they do not have the will or desire
to pursue what they feel is the most important future agenda?

irrelevant.

This growing bubble of denial you live in is most certainly going to burst one of these days Al.

Well yours hasn't burst yet, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

And all the 9/11 truth Movement is calling for is a full and proper investigation.

Another lie. They have falsely accused, or accused by implication and insinuation, hundreds of innocent americans of complicity in the murder of 3000 of their fellow countrymen and women.

Those like yourself who work hard to undermine the 9/11 Truth Movement efforts, are nothing more than willing patsies for
the real masterminds behind 9/11!

MM

More like a bastion of sanity for internet surfers to find when you or some other snake oil salesmen tries to convince them to buy your poisonous tonic of lies.

TAM

 

[TJM]

And all the 9/11 truth Movement is calling for is a full and proper investigation.

What makes you believe there has not been a "full and proper" investigation?

 

[Miragememories]

"If the lightpoles were planted, it would be incredibly naive to think the masquerade would stop there."

"Don't change the topic. How do you explain the fact that the bodies of everyone that boarded Flight 77 were identified in the debris of essentially the entire airplane buried inside the Pentagon. All of this was witnessed by hundred of people, we have the statements of about 250. The black boxes were recovered. The audio box records Arabic nguage and a hijacking. The data box shows a flight path that agrees with the FAA radar track and the cellphone/airphone data and shows that the plane was being flown on manual control by the hijackers control right to the end."

I addressed the topic.

What part about "planted evidence" and "masquerade" do you not understand Al?

MM

 

[BigAl]

I addressed the topic.

What part about "planted evidence" and "masquerade" do you not understand Al?

MM

How did someone deposit 140 tons of aircraft debris and all 64 bodies (all last seen only 90 minutes earlier) inside a burning building under the continuous observation of a bunch of random people?

140 tons of aircraft and the identified bodily remains of all 64 people that boarded it was found inside the Pentagon. The approach, the crash and the forensic recovery was under continuous observation by countless people. We know the names and have the statements of about 250.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Impressive... this thread got completely ruined into another CIT pentagon no-planer topic... (I'm partly responsible myself)... Dadeets hasn't been around for two days.... just curious if the thread's recoverable....

 

[beachnut]

Can you please post a link to your name in the FAA database like balsamo
has done thanks.

Deets joined Balsamo cult of no-theories on 911, just implied moronic delusions and lies. Balsamo has not flown heavy jets, never been a Captain, failed to get an ATP, the certificate needed to fly left seat.

Who needs to supply their FAA stuff?

Here is my FAA stuff. I have an ATP, did Balsamo flunk? Balsamo has no ATP.
Balsamo said he would kill those who disagree with him; no longer qualified for an ATP!

To be eligible for an Airline Transport Pilot certificate, you must know English and:

• Be at least 23 years of age; AND
• Be of good moral character.

Moral character for Balsamo, not possible. He lies about 911, and threated to kill people.
You have to answer questions to earn an ATP, Balsamo only asks questions and makes up moronic lies.

Knowing how to do math helps earn an ATP, 11.2g failed math of Balsamo will not hack it.

Why does Deets support a liar, and join Balsamo's club of failed pilots who can't figure out 911. Has Deets commented on Balsamo's 11.2g failed physics, or his 34g hockey stick pullout?

When Deets joined p4t, he exposed his lack of math, and physics skills. Exposed his lack of knowledge in flight procedures. Deets, no clue how to interpret FDR; the FDR proves Balsamo and CIT are liars. Deets does not do RADAR; RADAR proves CIT and Balsamo are liars.

Balsamo claims he can't hit a target as large as the WTC towers, or the Pentagon. The terrorists can do what the failed pilot Balsamo can't, fly and hit large objects! That is classic 911 truth, tell you they can't do it, and live up to their own failure.

Hani had FAA stuff;

Hani can fly and hit one of the largest buildings in the world, Balsamo claims he can't do it. Does Deets know he joined a failed pilots club?

 

[Miragememories]

"I addressed the topic.

What part about "planted evidence" and "masquerade" do you not understand Al?"

"How did someone deposit 140 tons of aircraft debris and all 64 bodies (all last seen only 90 minutes earlier) inside a burning building under the continuous observation of a bunch of random people?

140 tons of aircraft and the identified bodily remains of all 64 people that boarded it was found inside the Pentagon. The approach, the crash and the forensic recovery was under continuous observation by countless people. We know the names and have the statements of about 250."

What you are doing is calling those 10 eyewitnesses liars without a sound basis to do so Al.

There is credibility in curiosity.

There is no credibility when people [FBI], who by profession and public duty show no interest (curiosity) about 10 eyewitnesses, including 2 police officers, who have given emphatic testimony for the public record and on camera.

Testimony which is incredibly damaging to the FBI's investigative conclusions behind the so-called Pentagon attack.

These same, surprisingly uninterested professionals, are the source of all the supposed evidence that you are using as counter-argument.

MM

 

[Dog Town]

What you are doing is calling those 10 eyewitnesses liars without a sound basis to do so Al.

So in turn you call hundreds if not thousands of people liars. All to support, a "theory" so complex they all must be in on it. Brilliant, not a single critical thought in your toolbox, apparently! Yet twoofers can't figure out why people think them insane! Amazing!

 

[Miragememories]

"Deets joined Balsamo cult of no-theories on 911, just implied moronic delusions and lies. Balsamo has not flown heavy jets, never been a Captain, failed to get an ATP, the certificate needed to fly left seat.

Who needs to supply their FAA stuff?

Here is my FAA stuff. I have an ATP, did Balsamo flunk? Balsamo has no ATP.
Balsamo said he would kill those who disagree with him; no longer qualified for an ATP!"

According to my history books, the the last scheduled B-707 flight for passengers by a US carrier, was TWA 27 years ago.

There were supposedly 3 B-720s still functioning as corporate transports in 2002.

Not exactly state-of-the-art qualifications.

MM

 

[Miragememories]

"What you are doing is calling those 10 eyewitnesses liars without a sound basis to do so Al."

So in turn you call hundreds if not thousands of people liars.

And you are pulling numbers out of your...

Gross exaggeration does not an argument make.

MM

 

[DGM]

According to my history books, the the last scheduled B-707 flight for passengers by a US carrier, was TWA 27 years ago.

There were supposedly 3 B-720s still functioning as corporate transports in 2002.

Not exactly state-of-the-art qualifications.

MM

That's some detective work. When did the military phase that aircraft type out?

 

[Pardalis]

Gross exaggeration does not an argument make.

And

double spacing

doesn't

make you sound

more important

or more

intelligent.

 

[carlitos]

Non-standard formatting is one of many "marks of woo."

 

[TJM]

According to my history books, the the last scheduled B-707 flight for passengers by a US carrier, was TWA 27 years ago.

There were supposedly 3 B-720s still functioning as corporate transports in 2002.

Not exactly state-of-the-art qualifications.

MM

Wow. Misses the point spectacularly.

 

[RedIbis]

Impressive... this thread got completely ruined into another CIT pentagon no-planer topic... (I'm partly responsible myself)... Dadeets hasn't been around for two days.... just curious if the thread's recoverable....

I'm thinking no.

 

[Disbelief]

What you are doing is calling those 10 eyewitnesses liars without a sound basis to do so Al.

There is credibility in curiosity.

Or mistaken or led by CIT or editing by CIT. No one is calling them liars, you on the other hand...

There is no credibility when people [FBI], who by profession and public duty show no interest (curiosity) about 10 eyewitnesses, including 2 police officers, who have given emphatic testimony for the public record and on camera.

Testimony which is incredibly damaging to the FBI's investigative conclusions behind the so-called Pentagon attack.

These same, surprisingly uninterested professionals, are the source of all the supposed evidence that you are using as counter-argument.

MM

What you do is call the professionals who investigated liars, dupes or cowards. No way around it.

 

[beachnut]

According to my history books, the the last scheduled B-707 flight for passengers by a US carrier, was TWA 27 years ago.

There were supposedly 3 B-720s still functioning as corporate transports in 2002.

Not exactly state-of-the-art qualifications.

MM

funny! Those are only my type ratings, SO? Exposing your lack of knowledge on FAA stuff? Why? Guess what?


The 707 is harder to fly than the 757/767. The new planes have engineered out the poor flying qualities.

Weak on research? The USAF fly 707/720 type aircraft. 911 truth's lack of knowledge is revealed again, and again. This is indicative of 911 truth and Deets failure to understand 911, or make rational conclusions on 911. 911 truth fails to think for themselves and FOLLOW Balsamo and CIT.

Balsamo never flew heavy jets, and he has no ATP. 911 truth and Deets hitched their "failed ideas on 911 wagon" to a failed pilot, with super bad math, Balsamo.

The USAF is still flying the KC-135, a 707 type airframe. You lost this one, try again! What is the FAA going to give me when I fly a 707 type airframe? LOL, you are a perfect p4t candidate, enjoy your ignorance on 911 while it lasts. I got my ATP, just to get it, I had the equal to an ATP in the USAF when I was 28 years old.

Why does Deets not check the FDR which debunks you, Balsamo, and CIT? Why can't you use the FDR, RADAR, or DNA to debunk your own delusions on 911? Because you have delusions on those issues too.

John Travolta flys a 707. The cool part is the plane I flew can go .9 MACH, faster than the 767/757. The cool part is, the plane I flew, I could shut down two engines and still fly.

The big point! A grade school education is all that is needed to debunk Balsamo and Deets, my ATP and masters in engineering is extra, not needed.

Where is your savior Deets?