Danny Jowenko - Manipulated by 9/11 Deniers

[Disbelief]

The concrete was there.

Get over it.

MM

Continue never admitting that you are wrong about anything, it makes you look foolish. Will you ever admit that freefall is not part of a planned demolition?

 

[Sivan Kurzberg]

The concrete was non-structural, If you want to start discussing the floors, yes they provided lateral stability to the buildings, but they were prefabricated steel truss systems, not concrete. The concrete was little more than a topping. If you guys are going to "debate" about structural materials you need to get them right before you start "correcting" others.

I don't know how you missed this post right above your reply. Here I'll bold all of it for you this time.

http://guardian.150m.com/wtc/godfrey.htm

Note that the buildings are stiffened by the composite steel-concrete floors. The floors are an integral part of the structural system. Without the composite floor slabs, the buildings would soon collapse.

I was asked to cite a claim so I did. Your silly unsourced hand-waiving just won't do. Sorry.

 

[Carlos]

Sivan Kurzberg

A building with concrete beams, concrete columns and concrete slabs is one thing.

A building with steel beams, steel columns, and concrete slabs is another thing.

 

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Continue never admitting that you are wrong about anything, it makes you look foolish. Will you ever admit that freefall is not part of a planned demolition?

If I recall correctly building content fire has never been the cause of a complete collapse of a steel structured skyscraper before or since 9/11. It doesn't stop you from claiming it happened though.

 

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Sivan Kurzberg

A building with concrete beams, concrete columns and concrete slabs is one thing.

A building with steel beams, steel columns, and concrete slabs is another thing.

Carlos,

It is the debunker claim that the concrete played no part in the structural integrity of the WTC buldings. That is incorrect. Thanks for playing.

 

[Disbelief]

If I recall correctly building content fire has never been the cause of a complete collapse of a steel structured skyscraper before or since 9/11. It doesn't stop you from claiming it happened though.

Continue leaving out inconvenient information and making claims. So what is your claim? Thermite? What?

 

[Bell]

If I recall correctly building content fire has never been the cause of a complete collapse of a steel structured skyscraper before or since 9/11. It doesn't stop you from claiming it happened though.

Why would it stop Disbelief claiming it happened when it did happen?

Also, do you believe that if something has never happened before, it will not happen ever?

 

[Miragememories]

Continue leaving out inconvenient information and making claims. So what is your claim? Thermite? What?

What is your argument?

What?

Regurgitation of nonsense is all I ever see from you, which is why replying to you is such a waste of time.

Do some homework and actually present a real argument sometime.

Try it.

You'll like it.

Call your Mom, she'll agree.

MM

 

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Continue leaving out inconvenient information and making claims. So what is your claim? Thermite? What?

My claim is that the debunkers here and some of their statements about the concrete in the WTC were wrong. You have the claim about the collapse. You should get your facts straight or stop claiming it.

 

[Disbelief]

What is your argument?

What?

Regurgitation of nonsense is all I ever see from you, which is why replying to you is such a waste of time.

Do some homework and actually present a real argument sometime.

Try it.

You'll like it.

Call your Mom, she'll agree.

MM

Keep up the ad homs MM, as it is all you have to fall back on. So when are you going to do your homework and provide proof for your claims? Going to admit your mistakes, or are you going to continue to ignore them and prove your deceitfulness?

 

[Bell]

What is your argument?

What?

Regurgitation of nonsense is all I ever see from you, which is why replying to you is such a waste of time.

Do some homework and actually present a real argument sometime.

Try it.

You'll like it.

Call your Mom, she'll agree.

MM

What you said applies to you too.

And I called your mom. She agrees. She thinks you are **** nuts.

 

[Miragememories]

Keep up the ad homs MM, as it is all you have to fall back on. So when are you going to do your homework and provide proof for your claims? Going to admit your mistakes, or are you going to continue to ignore them and prove your deceitfulness?

As expected.

You replied with bs.

Back to ignore.

MM

 

[Bell]

As expected.

You replied with bs.

Back to ignore.

MM

 

[Miragememories]

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Another ignore.

9/11 is such a joke to you folks.

Sad.

MM

 

[Disbelief]

As expected.

You replied with bs.

Back to ignore.

MM

Pathetic. So, it is bs to expect someone to back up a claim? Here, just so everyone can see you in action.

And as noted in their final report, the NIST, finally conceded that WTC7 underwent a complete freefall for at least 8 storys.

That is something that has never occurred before in a concrete and steel building, yet is a planned for characteristic in controlled demolitions.

Bolding mine. You are lying, as you have been called out repeatedly about this and refuse to make a correction.

 

[Bell]

Another ignore.

9/11 is such a joke to you folks.

Sad.

MM

 

[Miragememories]

Duh

MM

 

[Bell]

MM

I thought you put me on ignore? Yet another lie from MM...

 

[DGM]

This thread was started 4 years ago.

And their still arguing the same thing.

 

[fess]

Carlos,

It is the debunker claim that the concrete played no part in the structural integrity of the WTC buldings. That is incorrect. Thanks for playing.

Please show how the concrete flooring, not the floor pans, was anchored to the inner and outer columns to provide structural integrity to the building. A simple explanation is acceptable, but an engineering drawing would be better.
Also consider that the temperatures of the fire floors would have spalled the concrete rendering it useless as far as providing any integrity whatsoever.