What's your problem with Glenn Beck?

The Charnel Expanse said:
And in the few instances he has misstated something, he promptly issued corrections.
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Another reason I like both him and Maddow. They admit when they're wrong. I do like Maddow a bit more because she doesn't use the juvenile insults that Olbermann does.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Another reason I like both him and Maddow. They admit when they're wrong. I do like Maddow a bit more because she doesn't use the juvenile insults that Olbermann does.
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LOL! So tell me tbk, did Maddow ever admit she was wrong about Hoover's response to the downturn in the economy? You remember what she claimed?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-c...l-maddow-still-cant-get-it-right-about-hoover

Here she goes again, this time during her show Friday night while condemning Republicans calling for a "freeze" on federal spending for the rest of the fiscal year --

You know who else had the excellent idea to freeze government spending during a recession? This guy! (holds up photo of Hoover) H.H., President Herbert Hoover. His fundamental misunderstanding of how to shore up a failing economy was so celebrated that the great armies of homeless and jobless Americans gave him naming rights for the shanty towns where they all lived in cardboard boxes and burned-out cars during the Great Depression -- Hoovervilles. Hoovervilles.
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The problem is that Hoover didn't freeze spending. Here, from the same source:

When it comes to federal spending during Hoover's single term in office, 1929 to 1933, what actually happened? According to the Office of Budget and Management Web site, Table 1.1 (BAC - in http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2009/pdf/hist.pdf ), just the opposite of what Maddow repeatedly claims.

Federal spending increased $166 million in 1929, or 5 percent. In 1930, it rose by $193 million over the preceding year, at 6 percent. The pattern continued in 1931, with an increase of $257 million, nearly 8 percent. And for 1932, it rose a whopping 30 percent, by $1.08 billion. All told, federal spending increased 57 percent in this four-year period, according to the OMB.
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She ever admit she was wrong? I sort of doubt it since a number of people on this forum who obviously hang on her every word are still walking around claiming Hoover froze spending. :D
 
You're right in that Hoover did not implement a spending freeze, but he WAS advised to do so by his treasury secretary Andrew Mellon.
In this case, the GOP was assuming the Mellon role.
 
Late to the party here, and not that you asked, but...

My primary problem with Glenn Beck is the naked greed he seems to espouse, the raw idea that all the world's problems can be solved if we just let people grab all they can get, and to hell with the consequences for the rest of us. It's a nasty, underhanded, cruel, and destructive, and has no place for someone with either a conscience, or a rational mind.

He's dishonest about history, he's dishonest with his viewers and listeners. His books make inappropriate use of facts, and in some cases, he twists facts to the breaking point to support his odd positions. As he's smearing Vapo-Rub on his eyes to evoke tears of grief for America's faults and failures, he has never once put his mind to work to consider solutions to the difficulties we face, save to work and rework his opportunistic efforts, all of which have the ultimate goal of lining Glenn's rather deep pockets.

He isn't so much a Conservative, (at least by my own odd definition of such), as much as he's simply one more greedy charlatan, spewing his toxic slop wherever he can, all in the name of "America," or at least in the name of an America I wouldn't recognize once Beck's version of it came to fruition. In reading a recent article in Mother Jones, I couldn't help but think that Beck isn't too far off from people like Oral Roberts, or Rex Humbard, save for the Mormon aspect of his life. That he's a cheerleader for the Tea Party silliness, complete with its xenophobia, its loose grip on reality, and its hunger for the raw power it claims exists on the other side demonstrates further why he shouldn't be trusted with anything sharper than a thimble. (Frankly, my thought is if the money were right, Beck would be shilling for the Ginsu, one of the crappiest knives on the market, but that's me.)

I don't simply dislike Beck: I've listened to him, read a bit of him, and I'm convinced the "America" he wants to see us return to never existed in the first place, save for perhaps The Turner Diaries. This man scares the hell out of me, and that he actually has an audience that supports this drivel leaves me unnerved.

You're welcome to him, if you have a mind for that kind of thing.
 
One more thing: I may not agree with his Mormon beliefs, either, but I know far too many Mormons who are genuinely honest with themselves and others, and who aren't willing to cheat anyone else. (Disclosure: I have multiple Mormon relatives, most of whom meet this criteria.) Beck seems to lack this characteristic.
 
Has Glenn Beck ever done actual productive work at any point in his life? Looking at his career path, it seems like the only thing he's ever been paid to do is talk. He was a failed stand-up comedian, then he became a failed zoo crew DJ before settling in as an AM talk show host.

Seems pretty hypocritical of him to constantly berate people who "don't work".
 
The Charnel Expanse said:
Has Glenn Beck ever done actual productive work at any point in his life? Looking at his career path, it seems like the only thing he's ever been paid to do is talk. He was a failed stand-up comedian, then he became a failed zoo crew DJ before settling in as an AM talk show host.

Seems pretty hypocritical of him to constantly berate people who "don't work".
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As someone who has had multiple career failures in his life, I'm not willing to ding Beck for failing. I am, however, willing to argue the point that Beck has taken the low road through most of his professional life.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Another reason I like both him and Maddow. They admit when they're wrong. I do like Maddow a bit more because she doesn't use the juvenile insults that Olbermann does.
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So will Beck.

Remember his response to the 'Oligarhy' episode?

Very amusing.
 
I seriously dislike the guy because he strongly differentiates between the two mad hating, murderous, insanely religious and pot head states of Palestine and Israel.

Anyway he's been fairly good (atleast 70% efficient.. that's very good actually) on informing about some of the seriously screwed people in the administration or helping the administration.
 
Patejdl said:
I seriously dislike the guy because he strongly differentiates between the two mad hating, murderous, insanely religious and pot head states of Palestine and Israel.

Anyway he's been fairly good (atleast 70% efficient.. that's very good actually) on informing about some of the seriously screwed people in the administration or helping the administration.
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Who are these people, and what bad things have they done for the administration?
 
AaronMHatch said:
Who are these people, and what bad things have they done for the administration?
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Where in what I wrote do I mention bad things for the administration? Anyway this topic is about Beck and not the other crackpots.
 
Patejdl said:
Where in what I wrote do I mention bad things for the administration? Anyway this topic is about Beck and not the other crackpots.
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You gave Beck kudos for talking about "some of the seriously screwed people" in the administration and that he's at least 70% right on them.

1. Could you give an example of these screwed people and the information on them?

2. Can you provide evidence that his information on these people is at least 70% correct?

3. Can you explain what you mean by 70% correct? Are you saying that during the course of one show, you think the information he provides regarding these screwed people is at least 70% correct? What sort of information is he telling that isn't correct?

4. Is it just your opinion that 70% is 'very good', or is this a known standard? Are there examples of people like Beck (that is, a TV / radio host) who fall below 'very good'? Where are getting this standard from?
 
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His expressions mostly.

Like this:

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