Who started both World Wars?

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9/11-investigator said:
Another nice glimpse into what Hitler really thought.
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This is hilarious! You didn't read what you posted! Hitler met with Mannerheim on 4th June 1942. here is the conversation....

Hitler: ...a very serious danger, perhaps the most serious one - it's whole extent we can only now judge. We did not ourselves understand - just how strong this state [the USSR] was armed
(OKW estimated that the Soviets had 10,000 obselete tanks before Barbarossa. In fact they had 20,000 by 1942 including T-34s and KV-1s.
Mannerheim: No, we hadn't thought of this
(So therefore neither Finland or Germany knew how many tanks the Russians had...that's incompetent leadership in action)
Hitler: Absolutely, This is - they had the most immense armaments that, uh, people could imagine. Well - if somebody had told me that a country - If somebody had told me a nation could start with 35,000 tanks, then I'd have said: "You are crazy!"
(Hitler still doesnt have a clue how many tanks the russians have a year into the war.)
Hitler: We have destroyed - right now - more than 34,000 tanks
(Hilter directly lies to his allie. Total write downs of Soviet Tanks had not yet reached 10,000 as the great tank battles don't start until 1943.
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Hitler: In the fall of 1939 we always faced the question. I desperately wanted to attack, and I firmly believed we could finish France in six weeks.
(9/11 Investigator says Hitler didn't want to attack. Hitler says otherwise)
 
aggle-rithm said:
You should understand what Einstein actually contributed before you mouth off.
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I suppose it was only natural that 9/11 eventually discovered that Einstein was a Jew and therefore was to be stripped of his achievements.

Some people have such an overriding, single idea, that their whole lives seem to revolve entirely around it.
 
Matthew Ellard said:
This is hilarious! You didn't read what you posted! Hitler met with Mannerheim on 4th June 1942. here is the conversation....

Hitler: In the fall of 1939 we always faced the question. I desperately wanted to attack, and I firmly believed we could finish France in six weeks.
(9/11 Investigator says Hitler didn't want to attack. Hitler says otherwise)
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I hope that Matthew is more carefull when he fills in his tax returns.

Why don't you read the last 5 lines in my post?
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
You also think the Nazis who dragged your own father into a slave camp were the good guys.



And it gave rise to one of the first cultural, economic and military superpowers of the ancient world, one that was ruled by blacks for 10 times longer than the 3rd Reich lasted.

But you didn't originally bring up Africa, this is just a 10,000 mile goalpost shift.

You put up a photo of a polynesian tribe and another one of Werner Von Braun and deliberately implied that the differing levels of advancement between the two societies was solely due to skin color. What you showed instead was that you are completely ignorant of geography and how it influences the evolution of society.

Which is doubly ironic, given that "Lebensraum" was the reason your boy Adolf started the war in the first place.



Attempting to argue your way out of a hole by inventing new jewish conspiracies = automatic win for me.



...who was targeted by german intelligence before the war and when he inspected captured V2s after war, announced that the lying, thieving germans stole his work. Von Braun even admitted that everything he built during the war was basically evolved versions of Goddards originals. The differences between the two being mostly better funding and jewish slave labor.

Had Goddard not died tragically in 1945, it would have been him in that photo of the Saturn 1B.



...and then Russia woke up.

Kinda like the video games you used to play at the 7-11 while you were skipping high school. You'd have the main boss down to the last sliver of his lifebar then suddenly his shell would drop away, he'd grow four more arms, pop out of the cabinet, bend you over the Slurpee machine and make a woman out of you.



How's that thousand year reich thing going?
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That is the most awesome post I've read in quite some time. I bit myself while eating my lunch because I was laughing too much.

You, sir, deserve some kudos!

And also sigged and nominated.
 
Gawdzilla said:
"The only new things are the history you don't already know."
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No doubt these Brasilians contributed greatly to the 'disciplining' of the Italian women, just like the Moroccans did.

In contrast to the Soviets, the Anglos in general did not commit mass rape, neither did the Germans. An exception must be made for the black GI's, who did give in to mass rape, according to the BBC.

But I am sure that dudalb will have a justifying explanation for this behavior.

Something with 'bigotry', 'deprivation', 'racism', you name it. The complete ADL glossary.
 
aggle-rithm said:
I'm sure the Japanese would have noticed.

Remember the Japanese?
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You mean these people who always get kicked out early on in a international sports tournament?

A friend of my father who was in the Dutch colony of 'Oost-Indie' (present day Indonesia) during WW2 was held prisoner in one of these prison camps and had a rough time. But he repeatedly said that for him somehow it was impossible to take these gnomes seriously.

To come up with a WW2 planetary ranking of average military strength per individual:

1. German
2. French
3. Russian
4. British
5. American
6. Japanese
7. Italian

I am 100% sure of 1 en 7, the rest is an educated guess and open for debate.

Both the German and American high command calculated:
1 German = 2 Americans
 
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Tonight I finished watching the Russian documentary 'The Last Myth'. from that it becomes clear that the Russians have moved on. Suvorov's book has sold by the millions:

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2010/06/21/a-man-of-one-idea/

The book had been published by Ham*ish Hamilton, in those days a highly respectable house. The newspaper reviewing it was the yet-magisterial Times, whose literary editor had given over to me almost the whole of the biweekly books page to do justice to a work, as I had told him, of outstanding importance. Using the term used by Coleridge of Kant in the Biographia Literaria, I said that Suvorov was “allbecrushing.” The book sold 800 copies.

Some months later, a German edition of the book, under the title Der Eisbrecher: Hitler in Stalins Kaulkül, was published in Germany by a smallish house, Klett-Cotta, to timid and gingerly reviews. It sold 8,000 copies. In 1992, Su*vorov’s manuscript was delivered to a maverick publisher in Moscow, and at last the book saw the light of day in the original Russian, quickly selling out its first print run of 100,000 copies. In the years that followed, over five million copies have been sold, making Suvorov the most-read military historian in history.
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Germany has endulged in Vergangenheitsbewaeltigung. Far too much. They even paid for crimes they did not commit.

Russia is now coming clean with it's past also. Not as thorough as the Germans, but still.

Oh yes, and there we have the Anglos, who will probably be the last to come to terms with their past.

Oh wait, there is still this group that by definition has no Christian conscience. Let's not identify them yet; dudalb's tender feelings might get hurt. Their Vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (Bolshevism, Holomodor, Armenian genocide, Nuremberg lies, 9/11) has yet to begin. But it will. The internet has arrived. The lights have been switched on globally.

No escape from the truth possible.
 
Belz... said:
That is the most awesome post I've read in quite some time. I bit myself while eating my lunch because I was laughing too much.

You, sir, deserve some kudos!

And also sigged and nominated.
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I appreciate the sentiment.

The comment you now have in your signature is a reference to a post made by 9/11-Investigator over in his other train wreck of a thread in the history subforum.

9/11-investigator said:
My own Saxon Dutch father was deported in 1944 to Poland to participate in the Arbeitseinsatz. He had amongst others to help clean up the mess in Dresden a few days after the Allies carried out their barbarous attack that claimed a comparable number of lives (135,000) in 1 night intentionally as all the people that died in all the camps combined over 3 years (270,000)!

He never experienced any barbarous act by the Germans.
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His own family was dragged off into slavery by the Nazis yet he doesn't consider this "barbarous".
 
CptColumbo said:
There is a great book on the decline of German science under the Third Reich called Hitler's Scientists by John Cornwell.

http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Scien...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282949873&sr=1-1

The main theme of the book is the relationship of ehtics and science.
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I'll back that recommendation. it was informative for me on several levels: it demonstrated that T-4 Aktion had philosophical underpinnings going back to the 1920's and also that despite the fact that the Third Reich had all sorts of wickedawesome sooper sekrit science, the power structure was so byzantine and many of the upper ranking Nazi's so scientifically clueless (Himmler comes off amazingly dense here- extracting fuel from violets? Really?) that I'm amazed that they managed to last until 1945.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Oh wait, there is still this group that by definition has no Christian conscience. Let's not identify them yet; jewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjewsjews.
No escape from the truth possible.
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Yawn. You need new writers.
 
9/11-investigator said:
You mean these people who always get kicked out early on in a international sports tournament?

A friend of my father who was in the Dutch colony of 'Oost-Indie' (present day Indonesia) during WW2 was held prisoner in one of these prison camps and had a rough time. But he repeatedly said that for him somehow it was impossible to take these gnomes seriously.

To come up with a WW2 planetary ranking of average military strength per individual:

1. German
2. French
3. Russian
4. British
5. American
6. Japanese
7. Italian

I am 100% sure of 1 en 7, the rest is an educated guess and open for debate.

Both the German and American high command calculated:
1 German = 2 Americans
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The Japanese seemed to have no problem kicking Russia's ass, unlike some European countries. They also didn't give up until an atomic bomb was dropped on them, twice.

The UK had the largest navy in the world. Germany had to keep running away and hiding in the fjords.

Technologically Russia had superior weapons to most nations. However, due to Stalin's tendency to execute anyone who showed any independent thought, it was hard to keep organized.
 
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