Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 3

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McLarin was on the scene sometime in the fall of 67 after the filming and saw the trackway; then he returned the next summer and there were still traces. He followed the trackway as best he could, yet the Green film shows he did not follow the exact route of PattyBob as shown on film. ie the trackway may not have matched PattyBob's actual route.



Or, another possible...(and likely)....explanation for Jim's and Patty's paths not matching exactly, is that it was 8 months later....and most of the tracks were simply gone....making it difficult to precisely match Patty's trackway.

Ain't that a wild theory??!


But, despite that, it can be seen in the films that at the point where they both walk by the large piece of wood.....their paths are very close to each other.
 
BH would have mentioned the need for him to avoid pre-made tracks. What he did say is that right after he was filmed P&G began to "make the tracks" using plaster casts.

IOW, they used plaster casts to make impressions in the sand.



Except for this one...


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I seriously doubt that you could create such a high ridge of 'raised soil' between the middle section of the footprint, and the toes......and, that degree of curvature to the middle section.....using a stiff piece of plaster.


But who knows......maybe you can. :boggled:

Sorry to interrupt your 'make-believe' session. :)
 
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The problem that I see with that track is that it doesn't look like it could have been made by Patty walking...


Why not?

It looks to me like Patty's heel pressed into the ground first....then the middle of the foot, and lastly, she pushed-off with her toes....(creating that raised ridge of soil, directly behind the toes.)
 
BTW.....that can be counted as another strike against Heironimus....."Roger made the fake tracks with a solid, stiff plaster cast".


Strike 300........you're out!!!
 
Why not?

It looks to me like Patty's heel pressed into the ground first....then the middle of the foot, and lastly, she pushed-off with her toes....(creating that raised ridge of soil, directly behind the toes.)

You don't need a real foot to do that.
Matt Crowley achieved that with two different type of fake feet.

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It looks to me like Patty's heel pressed into the ground first....then the middle of the foot, and lastly, she pushed-off with her toes....(creating that raised ridge of soil, directly behind the toes.)

Which is exactly what you get if you use a plain piece of 2X4 strapped to your foot, except for the toes, of course.

You get a deeply impressed back end of the wood, this raises a little dirt in front of the heel as you step, then the center of the wood rolls over that mound of dirt, then the front of the wood pushes off, pushing back the compressed mound, giving you the same general effect.

Deep at the front and back, raised mound in the middle that's been pushed back.
 
Or grab a fake foot with your hands, press it deeply in to soft soil/sediment, heel first, then the fake foot's front, simulating the movement of a real foot.

Explain any marks you left with your own feet or knees while faking the track as produced later, while you were investigating and casting the tracks.

You can also hide marks made during the hoaxing process above described either by standing over a broad plank or thick cardboard (thus reducing the pressure over the ground) and/or standing over hard soil patches.

Jus noticed that since there was a nearby creek, another interesting approach would be to dampen a patch of dry soil untill it gets soft and then fake the track.

Footers must realize there are many ways to hoax things. Much more than they can usually think of.

The track below, btw, was made by me, shares similarities with those made by Tube and shows some aspects similar to the famous tracks with the silly mid tarsal break prints. I made them while using some heavy boots and stepping on gravel. This sort of material usually is not good to produce tracks; one could say only something heavy would be able to do so. My weight back then was a something between 83Kg and 85Kg. How I made it? Simple. Walked just over the parts with loose gravel.
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Bob H. never saw or said he saw them making tracks. He just reported what they said they were going to do, and I don't think he knew exactly how they were going to do it.

I don't think they actually did it at that time. I think Patterson had enough doubt about the film that after Bob H. left, he said,
"Gimlin, you know what, the heck with making prints now; let's see what we got on film, if it's good, then we can come back down, make prints and announce. We aren't going to get a second shot if we announce now and the film sucks."
 
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.....and I don't think he knew exactly how they were going to do it.


That's one major issue Heironimus has...with his "insider confession"....he doesn't seem to know anything, with certainty.

"It had some kind of a helmet inside it.....it felt something like 'hip waders'....it had 'some kind of shoulder pads in it'.....'it was sometime around the 5th, the 12th, the 33rd, the whenever-th'.....'I think they used plaster casts"...etc...etc.


And....not to be left out...

"Roger said..."That's perfect....that's perfect....that's perfect....that's all we need"...:D


DATELINE....April 12th...

"Man Spills Guts.....Says Nothing (Much)".........film at 11.
 
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You don't need a real foot to do that.
Matt Crowley achieved that with two different type of fake feet.

http://www.orgoneresearch.com/IMG_4899.jpg

http://www.orgoneresearch.com/IMG_4981%5B1%5D.jpg


Those impressions don't match Patty's foot impression, in the image above.....and neither does the soil match the soil at the PG Filmsite....in composition, or consistency.
The soil at the filmsite was much firmer...(It was a mixture of clay, and sand...I think)...than the simple beach sand that Matt used.
 
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. . . Patty's heel pressed into the ground first....then the middle of the foot, and lastly, she pushed-off with her toes....(creating that raised ridge of soil, directly behind the toes.)

Uh, that wouldn't happen with Patty's so-called "compliant gait". Try walking with your knees slightly bent and come back and tell us about the force of your heel strike.
 
Uh, that wouldn't happen with Patty's so-called "compliant gait". Try walking with your knees slightly bent and come back and tell us about the force of your heel strike.

I think there is a theory out there that they have very different hips than a human as well as the mid-tarsal break in the foot. The hips have a different joint and the leg "swings" outward...or something like that. I think I've even convinced myself that I can see it in the PGF. Is that what you are referring to with the "compliant gate"?

Soooo, IF they exist, wouldn't trying to compare the walk of a human to a sasquatch be like comparing apple to oranges?

And anymore, that is a BIG IF for me. Saskeptic, you sure open up a lot more over here and simply state "there is no bigfoot". Why so hesitant over at the old BFF? (At least from the posts I saw from you). And damnit kitakaze, I'm so tired of you making sense. I have gone from almost a "believer" to a fence sitter, to now a skeptic. Not 100% convinced they dont exist, but getting way closer. Thanks alot Saskeptic and kitakaze. Ruined my childhood fantasy.
 
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And damnit kitakaze, I'm so tired of you making sense. I have gone from almost a "believer" to a fence sitter, to now a skeptic. Not 100% convinced they dont exist, but getting way closer. Thanks alot Saskeptic and kitakaze. Ruined my childhood fantasy.

Griz! Hey, man! Welcome to the JREF. Do you feel dirty? :)

muwaHAHAHA. Your journey to the Dark Side is complete.
 

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I think there is a theory out there that they have very different hips than a human as well as the mid-tarsal break in the foot. The hips have a different joint and the leg "swings" outward...or something like that.

You mean the funky chicken gait? The animated skeleton doing the funky chicken.
 
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